MYOB wrote: » The two do not equate. TV is a luxury whether or not there are public service broadcasters.
mikom wrote: » How do I receive this public service without the luxury?
Cosine wrote: » I take it, from you not tearing apart the rest of my post, that you either agree or do not disagree with my sentiments?
mikom wrote: » What's a public service broadcaster then?
MYOB wrote: » A broadcaster which performs a public service. Something of no relevance to a TV being a luxury.
MYOB wrote: » Its called a monitor. Recent PC monitors often accept HDMI, recent DVD players and consoles can output HDMI. No tuner required.
Tea_Bag wrote: » actually, if you had a monitor, not a tv, but had sky plugged into it, cause i believe skyHD outputs to HDMI, so one could plug it into a monitor, would that still count as being a tv/reciever, therefore inducting a licence fee?
Tea_Bag wrote: » quick question MYOB, or anyone actually, if one could remove the "tuner" from the TV, rendering it essentially a monitor, how would one approach the licence inspector who came around about it? not trying to be coy or anything, just wondering if i should just do it myself and avoid this bull****.
MYOB wrote: » A TV is a luxury,
Overature wrote: » TVs are not luxuries, you can pick a decent one up for free from a friend or someone, its all right for someone in full time work to not mind paying the tv licence, and why should you pay for a licence when you dont even watch the free view channels, rte is crap anyway
MYOB wrote: » I'm not a licence inspector; I'm just someone who resents paying a higher licence fee due to those who avoid paying something they're oblidged to. You can justify it as "its a €40 TV" and "The xbox was a present" but you're able to afford DVDs and games to watch/play on said xbox. You're also in a shared house so it wouldn't be €160 per person. You can bang on all you want about living on a budget, but a TV is a luxury and its a luxury with running costs - electricity and the licence fee. Don't have one if you can't afford them. Also, advocating criminal damage/assault against licence inspectors isn't a particularly sensible idea.
Cosine wrote: » It should be possible to manufacture a TV without a tuner (so a glorofied monitor)
Mike 1972 wrote: » Lived in the Republic for many years. Still have family/friends living there. But apparently being resident in another country means Im no longer allowed have an opinion on Irish affairs now ? Perhaps I shouldnt even be allowed on Boards.ie at all. But Ill l leave that one up to the mods.
Mike 1972 wrote: » There is no good reason why RTE cant broadcast FTA (or with encryption for foreign programmes and FTA for the home produced stuff if rights holders insist on it) on 28 East. As long as they arent on any EPG's outside of Ireland most people (other than Irish expats and the odd satellite anorak) would even notice their presence.
Mike 1972 wrote: » RTE (NL)'s own coverage figures/maps would suggest otherwise.
oppenheimer1 wrote: » If you don't watch TV well get rid of the TV, no need for a licence then. I don't believe someone who says they watch no RTE at all. I mean it isn't that expensive, 77cent each a week. If you can't afford to pay it all up front use the direct debit feature of paying monthly or weekly.
mikemac wrote: » Nobody pays road tax
Cosine wrote: » I am essentialy paying road tax but do not own a car
142.—(1) Subject to the exceptions mentioned in subsection (3), a person shall not keep or have in his or her possession anywhere in the territory of the State a television set save in so far as such keeping or possession is authorised by a television licence for the time being in force.
“television set” means any electronic apparatus capable of receiving and exhibiting television broadcasting services broadcast for general reception (whether or not its use for that purpose is dependent on the use of anything else in conjunction with it) and any software or assembly comprising such apparatus and other apparatus
MYOB wrote: » ...And computers are intended to be included as "televisions" in the next few years anyway.
MYOB wrote: » Er. No. Congratulations at the worst failure at twisting someones words ever.
MYOB wrote: » I notice you admit to not only not living in Ireland but paying your own countries licence fee - so why do you feel qualified or justified to argue against Irelands?
MYOB wrote: » If RTE were on 28E encrypted in non-Videoguard encryption there would be uproar from Sky subscribers.
MYOB wrote: » Sky is not required, at all, to view RTE.
there is effectively nowhere in the country that cannot get RTE1, RTE2 and TG4 off-air reliably for free
me-skywalker wrote: » So basically what your saying is that the TV Licence Fee is a load of crap and we shouldnt pay it? Thanks.
MYOB wrote: » On radio the Communicorp stations do pay quite a bit. On TV, nowhere really. The UK already nicks the ones they want, so they should just let them bugger off.
PirateShampoo wrote: » Thats the funny thing, where exactly are they going to go? TV3 lol.
mikom wrote: » ..........for fear of loosing one of their overpaid "stars"
mikom wrote: » When it had had a TV monopoly, a time when it could effectively charge what it liked for spot advertising. Along came the competition, ad revenue dropped and RTE balled it's eyes out for a licence increase. Not forgetting all the advertising revenue that all these extra "services" you mentioned garner (TG4 excluded) RTE's bread is buttered on both sides if you ask me.......
mikom wrote: » Wow.... all that and they still made a balls of their hosting on a satellite platform. No FTV, no FTA. Pay you licence fee peasants and don't forget to pay your satellite provider as well for the privilege of watching Killinaskully. RTE should be available free on the Astra satellite for all to receive. BBC, ITV Channel 4 channels in the UK and nearly all other EU national broadcasters are available free on satellite so why not RTÉ? Shur let's put it down to licence evasion again I guess.
MYOB wrote: » In the era when people just paid it, the licence fee didn't increase for ten years - and then didn't increase for another 5. Its only in the era when RTE became expected to provide extra services (a fourth radio channel, funding and programming for TG4, digital radio, web services, etc, etc) and masses of the population started evading it that they needed an increase.
mikom wrote: » You are coddin' yourself if you believe the current fee is as it stands due to the evasion factor. If everybody stumped up the blood money tomorrow RTE would still go crying to the guberment for an licence fee increase..........for fear of loosing one of their overpaid "stars"
