Clano wrote: » i agree he had it way too good for a long time and abused his position. he never renovated anything and its just sad now that young people going out will have to suffer for this again
Elbows22 wrote: » Great Post To be honest its kind of sickening some of the posts here. Worked there for 4 years myself and to start with you would find it very hard to come across a nicer bunch of staff if you tried. I didnt want to leave but unfortunatly with the way the economy was going I didnt really have a choice. If the business was there I would be back there as fast as my legs would carry me!! If the renovations were done im sure it would be a totally different story but because there not we can only blame one person for obvious reasons - Mr "McCant". This chap is holding back the whole city!! Prices of drinks are high i know and its no one elses fault but the government - find me one nightclub/latebar in the country that doesnt have to charge prices as high as this because of insurance,late license etc!!!!! What I find funny is we have people here saying they cant wait for the place to close yet they are probably one of the first people to walk through the door of the clubs each night!! Also people who come on and say how unprofessional bar staff in each particular place are - Your actually fantastic sitting at your computer screens putting in comments to make yourself feel better - work a night in there shoes!!!You'll understand then!! Just to clear a few things up: Park Inn/Bad Bobs - Bob Snr Oskars - Leased out Electric Avenue - Leased out Drink prices havent gone up in the last year! You don't seem to realise that if the worst came to the worst its not just the 200 or so working directly for the group that will lose a job - The Tweedy group could be the biggest account for some of the smaller suppliers, No Tweedy group means less work for these companies which means less jobs. All in all there is 200 or so people working for the Tweedy Group trying to make an honest living for themselves and the last thing we need in this town is the social welfare queue getting longer so instead of sitting there B****ing and moaning, giving out about this and that why not get out and support local businesses as much as you can??? Im sure if the business started to come back to these places then there would be lower drink prices etc Rant Over!!!
Ledger wrote: » Now for the other side of this coin, the fact is that the prices are too steep i nearly lost my life when i ordered a single vodka and coke and was told the price was nearly 8.50 this is high by anybody's standards. Having said that this is the way of all night clubs which continually overprice (both on the door and on drink) and are surprised when buisness is down. So we can't put the blame solely on the tweedy group it is the industry standard for years! !
kilkennycat2004 wrote: » This is the bottom line. I know Bob myself , a great businessman during the boom , but as with so many of his ilk nowadays, is going to have to revamp to a much less wealthy client base to keep going.
abouttobebanned wrote: » I have gone on record on this forum defending a lot of premises - in this particular case I think that the TG is being highly misrepresented, in many cases by people who have nothing to go on but a bias against the bars and clubs in question.
Cabaal wrote: » As you'll note from a earlier post I was barely aware of what premises he owned so I don't see how I can be anti-tweedy, in fairness I don't even know the chaps first name. However if you want to be ultra defense of him and his business models and premises and think that I'm anti-tweedy thats just fine even though there's nothing to backup your thinking...but sure work away
abouttobebanned wrote: » Cabaal, in many months here I've noticed you thank a lot of anti-tweedy posts so I'd take your opinion with the tiniest pinch of salt.
Cabaal wrote: » Agreed, Masons is far from a sports bar....they might like to think it but they are certanly not when compared to the real thing
gscully wrote: » Oh, and the bit about Masons being a sports bar is loose terminology. A sports bar will have sport on all day long regardless. Showing the big hurling or soccer matches doesn't make it a sports bar. Do Masons show all the horse racing all day? If I go in there on a Friday or Saturday night, will they be showing the boxing, with commentary? No, they will have loud music on! If I go in there next week to watch the Breeders Cup, do you think I'll get to see it?
EoinHeffernan wrote: » Yeah, very lazy on their part by coming up with new ideas to try and attract a crowd.
abouttobebanned wrote: » Where do I start. Getting dart boards, pool tables and running poker nights was lazy? Christ...I'd really love you to explain that one. The bar relaunched as a sports bar (at very little cost) new screens were put in and the bar did considerably better as a result. Reducing prices would have been better? All their drinks are €4 Sunday - Thursday. Do a bit more research before your next post methinks.
Ledger wrote: » i just felt i should put my own side on this, i work for one of the main suppliers of drinks to the tweedy group of bars but i am also a frequent punter. The fact is ALL pubs/clubs in waterford and indeed accross the country are experiencing a severe drop in buisness due to the economic downturn (i know, i'm sick of hearing that also!). I agree that some of the tweedy bars are overpriced such as ruby's niteclub and oxygen niteclub. Having said this some of the others are really doing their level best to try and attract punters, such as masons (as previously stated) and oscars, in the case of oscars the off licence is what is keeping the place going the bar seems to be doing below average buisness and again this is not down to the staff or managers its just the area or the crowd may not suit and there is not much can be done in this case as i have seen so many times in the past, certainly not much can be done in this present time. and to clarify the case of the park inn/bad bobs: this premesis is not part of the tweedy group it is owned by bob tweedy snr, who has had nothing to do with the tweedy group. bob tweedy jnr is the managing director of the tweedy group of bars. and one last note: in the case of the woodman bar/the ruby lounge/ruby's niteclub (all part of the same premesis and has the same staff and manager.) The manager of this premesis is possibly one of the best nightcub/bar manager i have ever seen he had a tall order when he took on this job several years ago, this is also evident considering he is relatively young,in his early thirties, and being so successfull in his job, and has rarely been wrong in his decisions. Now for the other side of this coin, the fact is that the prices are too steep i nearly lost my life when i ordered a single vodka and coke and was told the price was nearly 8.50 this is high by anybody's standards. Having said that this is the way of all night clubs which continually overprice (both on the door and on drink) and are surprised when buisness is down. So we can't put the blame solely on the tweedy group it is the industry standard for years! and on a slightly personal note i am horrified by the people who seem to already be popping open the champagne over these relevations! for it is not just the 200 odd jobs employed by him there is a domino effect which could devastate the region further! Such as suppliers,the local taxi companies, the local food outlets, the list goes on....... thank you if you have taken the time to read this. Rant over!
Ledger wrote: » Make sure its a tweedy bar!! :rolleyes:
abouttobebanned wrote: » Where ya going...may join ya for one...
alphapa wrote: » so ur trying to say they havent raised the prices in over a year????????
trishw78 wrote: » great now there'll be no place to go at night with over priced drink
Clano wrote: » he never renovated anything
gscully wrote: » Having Texas Hold'em, Darts, Table Quizzes in Masons was just pure laziness. .
Marchandire wrote: » I think that this oft-repeated notion that Mr. Tweedy should be congratulated for creating jobs is also unsupportable. The population of Waterford can profitably sustain a certain number of pubs and clubs (and their staff), and would have done so regardless of who owned which establishment.
abouttobebanned wrote: » Oskars is run by a different company and has been for the last 6 months or so. Bad Bobs and Park Inn are owned by Bob Snr and have nothing to do with this examinership.
Ledger wrote: » and one last note: in the case of the woodman bar/the ruby lounge/ruby's niteclub (all part of the same premesis and has the same staff and manager.) The manager of this premesis is possibly one of the best nightcub/bar manager i have ever seen he had a tall order when he took on this job several years ago, this is also evident considering he is relatively young,in his early thirties, and being so successfull in his job, and has rarely been wrong in his decisions. Now for the other side of this coin, the fact is that the prices are too steep i nearly lost my life when i ordered a single vodka and coke and was told the price was nearly 8.50 this is high by anybody's standards. Having said that this is the way of all night clubs which continually overprice (both on the door and on drink) and are surprised when buisness is down. So we can't put the blame solely on the tweedy group it is the industry standard for years!
Adyx wrote: » Well this thread has improved a little bit. The fact is that no matter who owns what in a city the size of Waterford, there will be some collusion regards pricing(price fixing). It was there when Kavanaghs owned Muldoons and half of Masons, and it hasn't changed since Bob took Muldoons over. Also Muldoons/Ruby's are not the dearest places in Waterford. I know because I did the price changes for the Tweedy Group (this was over a year ago btw to all the people who think the prices go up every couple of months), Harveys is the dearest, the Kazbar is dearer for some drinks after 12 and up until recently the Forum was as dear if not more so. Tbh I don't care what people think any more about the Tweedy Group. To avoid it because of the Junction is the stupidest think I've ever heard. I worked in the Junction. While some of the customers were great, a lot of them were so up their own arse that I'd rather the scum that is often found in Muldoons on a Sunday night. Ask Ziedth what he thinks of Geoffs and you come close to what a lot of people who frequented the Junction were like. There is an awful lot more I want to say on this in defence and against the Tweedy group, but given the circumstances I'm going drinking instead.
Adyx wrote: » There is an awful lot more I want to say on this in defence and against the Tweedy group, but given the circumstances I'm going drinking instead.
Typhoon. wrote: » Doesnt bob have a lot of pubs on the continent? Switzerland i think?
Ledger wrote: » the fact is that the prices are too steep i nearly lost my life when i ordered a single vodka and coke and was told the price was nearly 8.50 this is high by anybody's standards. !
Ultimate Chin wrote: » Just go with places with late licenses and see how much the balance changes
