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'Irish Las Vegas' planned

Oliver1985

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091027/tuk-irish-las-vegas-planned-e1cd776.html

A replica of the White House will form the centrepiece of a 460 million euro Las Vegas-style village deep in the countryside.
Plans for the 800-acre development beside Two-Mile Borris in Co Tipperary include a casino, National Hunt racecourse, a 7,000 seater greyhound track, five-star hotel, a 15,000 seater concert venue - with retractable roof - and golf course.
Ex-government minister Michael Lowry, top racehorse trainer Aidan O'Brien and concert promoter Denis Desmond have backed the venture dreamt up by slot-machine tycoon Richard Quirke
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komodosp

we'll just find some way to fcuk it up.

To be fair we don't always fcuk it up, we usually just do siht half-assed versions of it... Like you'll have to pay into the one casino and you won't be allowed bring your drink in from the attached bar (which itself will have only one person serving) or something. You'll have to book the different games in advance or have to wait in a queue to play the slot machines or something, and everything will be way overpriced

flynnser19

they were meant to do something similar in dundalk and its was axed!!!its still just a big waste land!!!

zAbbo

Did they steal this idea from a Simpsons episode?

What's next? A monorail? well it worked for North Haverbrook...

RHunce

crazy stuff altogether

Ulysses Gaze

To be fair we don't always fcuk it up, we usually just do siht half-assed versions of it... Like you'll have to pay into the one casino and you won't be allowed bring your drink in from the attached bar (which itself will have only one person serving) or something. You'll have to book the different games in advance or have to wait in a queue to play the slot machines or something, and everything will be way overpriced

+1

...and watch as all the Gombeens will come out of the woodwork hoping to 'wet their beaks' in this deal.

What's next? A monorail? well it worked for North Haverbrook...

Well it certainly put them on the map

Kipperhell

The right casino could really generate a lot of income to Ireland. Putting it in Tipp seems a little like a bad idea to me. US players would come from the East Coast if the price was right.

Moral arguments will likely appear if anything actually happens probably stalling it. Considering the approach that was planned for casinos recently I can't see why the government would be trusted by investors

df1985

itll never happen.remember "vega-city" in north dublin, meant to be theme parks and that.not to mention the bertie-bowl. we cant even build buildings over 20 stories in dublin these days so this doesnt have a chance.

me-skywalker

everybody laughed when the mormons founded vegas... now look at it!!

rossie1977

me-skywalker wrote: »

everybody laughed when the mormons founded vegas... now look at it!!

without 2 key things vegas would be nothing more than a one-horse town like hundreds of other places in nevada currently

the building of the hoover dam brought thousands upon thousands of people into vegas and a crazy idea by bugsy siegel to build a multi million dollar hotel on the now strip saw the rest of the mob follow in the late 40s

[Deleted User]

Surprised no one's done this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL_PXBt85rY

drkpower

It baffles me how this type of operation is not up and running here already. I can understnad the reluctance to encourage gambling, however, the advent of internet based gambling and the essential impossibility of preventing it means that the availability of gambling is at saturation point with or without mega-casinos.

With the only good reason for avoiding mega-casinos dead in the water, we should seek to embrace the economic and other benefits of these casinos. Given that the UK hasnt really gotten off the ground with their plans, we could steal a significant march on them by legalising it first. I also presume that our corporate tax rate would attract a lot of the big players.

Location wise, I would have thought that somehere near a major airport would be key and the Shannon area (which is sufffering obvioulsy) sounds like a perfect idea to get the yanks touring the west coast and its also very commutable for Dublin and UK based weekend-tripppers.

Of course, all that would require a decision by a government that would take some local and general criticism for a number of reasons (proliferation of gambling, crime etc) and ultimatley FF (and the rest of them) didnt have the balls to just do it. So all the business will go elsewhere. Ah welll......

Dempsey

The closest village to this thing is Two-Mile Borris, not the Horse & Jockey.

orourkeda

drkpower wrote: »

It baffles me how this type of operation is not up and running here already. I can understnad the reluctance to encourage gambling, however, the advent of internet based gambling and the essential impossibility of preventing it means that the availability of gambling is at saturation point with or without mega-casinos.

With the only good reason for avoiding mega-casinos dead in the water, we should seek to embrace the economic and other benefits of these casinos. Given that the UK hasnt really gotten off the ground with their plans, we could steal a significant march on them by legalising it first. I also presume that our corporate tax rate would attract a lot of the big players.

Location wise, I would have thought that somehere near a major airport would be key and the Shannon area (which is sufffering obvioulsy) sounds like a perfect idea to get the yanks touring the west coast and its also very commutable for Dublin and UK based weekend-tripppers.

Of course, all that would require a decision by a government that would take some local and general criticism for a number of reasons (proliferation of gambling, crime etc) and ultimatley FF (and the rest of them) didnt have the balls to just do it. So all the business will go elsewhere. Ah welll......

Using addiction as an excuse for stopping the construction has never been particularly viable. Otherwise there wouldnt be a pub in Ireland.

aftermn

as long as it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything, why not encourage these ideas.
Anyone willing to spend millions on a project in these times should be encouraged. As stated earlier the worst that can happen is that it will fail and the planning people (financial, architects, planners etc) will be the only beneficiaries. If it proceeds to building, many others will benefit. If it finally succeeds, we will all benefit.

shamblertine

drkpower wrote: »

Location wise, I would have thought that somehere near a major airport would be key and the Shannon area (which is sufffering obvioulsy) sounds like a perfect idea to get the yanks touring the west coast and its also very commutable for Dublin and UK based weekend-tripppers.

I disagree, having it in the West coast will do ok during the summer months, but it would bomb for the rest of the year. It has to be near Dublin. This is where people have the highest spending power, where the biggest concentration of the population is, and is also the closest spot for UK visitors. Most yanks coming to Ireland will come into Dublin first anyway.

drkpower

shamblertine wrote: »

I disagree, having it in the West coast will do ok during the summer months, but it would bomb for the rest of the year. It has to be near Dublin. This is where people have the highest spending power, where the biggest concentration of the population is, and is also the closest spot for UK visitors. Most yanks coming to Ireland will come into Dublin first anyway.

I dont necessarily have a difficulty with having it in Dublin but there is a significant advantage for regional development to have such a facility outside Dublin.

deisedude

shamblertine wrote: »

I disagree, having it in the West coast will do ok during the summer months, but it would bomb for the rest of the year. It has to be near Dublin. This is where people have the highest spending power, where the biggest concentration of the population is, and is also the closest spot for UK visitors. Most yanks coming to Ireland will come into Dublin first anyway.

Fcuk Dublin, they have plenty. Most visitors will travel around Ireland anyway. I don't see how having it outside Dublin would have such an adverse affect. A 2 and a half hour drive is nothing for most Americans

mikom

Deleted User wrote: »

Surprised no one's done this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL_PXBt85rY

No you're ok............ twas just done in the third post.

phasers

Sure Bray does me grand

Four-Too

FCUK them! Who tha fcuk iz gonna be puntin in it?! The sheep and cows??! I won't be supporting them anyway, I don't care if it was built outside my back yard.

drkpower

Four-Too wrote: »

FCUK them! Who tha fcuk iz gonna be puntin in it?! The sheep and cows??! I won't be supporting them anyway, I don't care if it was built outside my back yard.

Is there a reason in there somewhere or do you just oppose it for the sake of it?

Futurism

drkpower wrote: »

Is there a reason in there somewhere or do you just oppose it for the sake of it?

Why bother having a reason when you can just oppose it anyway? :pac:

deisedude

Futurism wrote: »

Why bother having a reason when you can just oppose it anyway? :pac:

Judging from the post, he/she is a Dubliner who thinks nothing happens outside of Dublin and thus is opposed to the idea because Dublin should have a God given right to it.

TheInquisitor

Man i hate people from the pale!

staker

A great idea, no mention of a chipper for the cash-strapped punters afterwards though.....
Time for a Colm Meaney and invest in a van methinks

mikemac

Wow, a lot of hate and knocking in this thread. Ease up folks

It's widely reported that 30 million has already gone into this project. To submit a planning file of this scale takes architects, engineers and consultants.
Here is Mr. Quirke, a Tipperary man employing people in Ireland on high value work

Even if this project fails and never gets going a lot of good has come from it

As from being from Tipperary, the prospect of 1,000 construction jobs and then 2,000 jobs in the complex is fantastic!
Though I am suprised at the location. If I was setting up a business and didn't want the east coast, I'd be setting up in Shannon.

Moyne airfield is closeby in Tipp but it's no international airport!

staker

mikemac wrote: »

Moyne airfield is closeby in Tipp but it's no international airfield!

might have something to do with the location in the cheaper landing fees for private jets.....

fergusman

Something like this was planned 10 years ago for the old phoenix park racecourse.... At the time it sounded great had financial backing but.....as usual in this country... it never happened.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0130/turnern.html

Sorry for being a cynic but this is never going to work in tipp its just too far from airports and major population centres.
Other than that I'd be all for it but not at its current location.
Also Casionos arent exactly legal here...YET
The presence of Michael Lowry at the launch hinders this development rather than helps it in my opinion...given his tainted reputation but i hear hes a good man to get an oul licence (just ask Denis O Brien)

fergusman

staker wrote: »

might have something to do with the location in the cheaper landing fees for private jets.....

I'd doubt it unless youre looking for punters to arrive in a very light cessna or a microlight..
Moyne is literally a field, no hope of landing a jet of any type
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyne_Aerodrome

Dempsey

If yer rich enough to have a private jet, I dont think paying for a helicopter to taxi you from Shannon, Cork, Dublin or even Knock to a Casino/Racecourse/Golf Club is going to cost you a thought