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'Good/Bad at languages'

TheCandystripes

Does this annoy anyone else? I mean what does this even mean, you can't be good/bad at languages like you can be with maths for example. I mean I speak fluent English, so I'm hardly bad at languages? If you go to live in a country you will pick up the language, theres no good or bad about it?

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CliffHuxtabel

TheCandystripes wrote: »

Does this annoy anyone else? I mean what does this even mean, you can't be good/bad at languages like you can be with maths for example. I mean I speak fluent English, so I'm hardly bad at languages? If you go to live in a country you will pick up the language, theres no good or bad about it?

what, for the junior cert?

Podge2k7

TheCandystripes wrote: »

you can't be good/bad at languages

Yes you can. If the only French words you know are bonjour and au revoir then you are obviously bad at the language.

minidazzler

Have you heard how some people, for example skangers, speak? Are you telling me they are not bad at languages?

MistyCheese

TheCandystripes wrote: »

Does this annoy anyone else? I mean what does this even mean, you can't be good/bad at languages like you can be with maths for example. I mean I speak fluent English, so I'm hardly bad at languages? If you go to live in a country you will pick up the language, theres no good or bad about it?

Hi, hello, Powers-That-Be, can I be this young and stupid again, please??!

liah

Some people find languages easier to learn than others, particularly if they've had exposure to multiple languages when growing up.

It's really not hard to understand, to be honest.

[Deleted User]

You can definitely be good or bad at languages. Some people can learn a language very quickly and others can live in a country for 10 years and still speak the language really badly. Just like one person can grasp a mathematical concept immediately and someone else might need to spend ages on it.

Snowie

Parler français pour moi, c'est facile. Mon ancienne petite amie était le français. Elle would'nt Parle-moi si je did'nt parler français!

and for the none French speakers.

Speaking French for me is easy. My former girlfriend was French. She would'nt Speak to me if I did'nt speak French!

liah

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Parler français pour moi, c'est facile. Mon ancienne petite amie était le français. Elle would'nt Parle-moi si je did'nt parler français!

This is kind of a really not-PC question but does your dyslexia affect other languages? Because unless you copy-pasted that french it's perfect.

Dartz

I'm good at bad ****ing language, and that's about it really.

ScumLord

I can't learn other languages to save my life, I've had beautiful Polish girls try to teach me their language but it just goes in one ear out the other. Maybe it was the fact they had nice tits that distracted me but I just know for a fact I'm **** at learning new languages.

Snowie

liah wrote: »

This is kind of a really not-PC question but does your dyslexia affect other languages? Because unless you copy-pasted that french it's perfect.

Ive been speaking a reading french since I was 7. It's drilled into my head

that is 21 years of it. I learned french through cartoons, I dunno if you've heard of it. Its called Muzzy

! It was Vhs back then tho...

http://imgkk.com/i/wD6oVRwP.jpg this dude here.

It doesn't make sense because yes I can speak french perfect, its because I learned in a exciting way as apposed to learning class room english, teachers allways said he can speak french amazingly well tho and the point was i learned in a fun way at my own pace.. what fun is a cartoon you can understand it ?:)
forced me to learn it.. And the a mad thing is Its stuck with me for such a long time. but then again I lived and worked there I've got lots of french friends...

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TheCandystripes wrote: »

Does this annoy anyone else? I mean what does this even mean, you can't be good/bad at languages like you can be with maths for example. I mean I speak fluent English, so I'm hardly bad at languages? If you go to live in a country you will pick up the language, theres no good or bad about it?

WTF are you talking about? You can be good and bad at anything. Just because you speak a language, doesn't make you good at languages. You could be sh!te at learning other languages...

liah

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Ive been speaking a reading french since I was 7. It's drilled into my head that is 21 years of it. I learned french through cartoons, I dunno if you've heard of it. Its called Muzzy ! It was Vhs back then tho...

http://imgkk.com/i/wD6oVRwP.jpg this dude here.

It doesn't make sense because yes I can speak french perfect, its because I learned in a exciting way as apposed to learning class room english, teachers allways said he can speak french amazingly well tho and the point was i learned in a fun way at my own pace.. what fun is a cartoon you can understand it ?:)
forced me to learn it.. And the a mad thing is Its stuck with me for such a long time. but then again I lived and worked there I've got lots of french friends...

That's so peculiar, but it's actually incredibly interesting.

The more you know!

ScumLord

French is durty.

drzhivago

not sure what the focus of the thread is but wish that more people took an interest in the irish Language

cant get my kids into gaelscoil, really wish I could, they love the language, enjoy speaking it

Last Summer they went to an Irish camp in Blackrock college and loved the experience, 4 weeks of fun and games through the medium of Irish and their Irish improved immensely

they want to go back next year which is a great sign

Love going to grandparents where people do speak Irish regularly

I wish the curriculum would improve to the point that kids find it interesting and not a chore

TheCandystripes

speaking irish is a waste of time unless tommorow we woke up and ireland was an irish speaking country, now irish is just another foreign language.

i mean i speak a good bit of irish and watch tg4 all the time but it be much better if we could speak german or french as well as english. if i had it my way we would speak irish and french as the second language.

CliffHuxtabel

drzhivago wrote: »

I wish the curriculum would improve to the point that kids find it interesting and not a chore

well when i was at school they were about .1% of the way there so they should be able to make irish fun by the year 3000

drzhivago

TheCandystripes wrote: »

speaking irish is a waste of time unless tommorow we woke up and ireland was an irish speaking country, now irish is just another foreign language.

Why is it any more a waste of time than people learning french Italian or Spanish in secondary school
How many people will ever actually need those languages for work ever again

We have some heritage with our language and there are areas on our own Island where it is the dominant language

drzhivago

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

well when i was at school they were about .1% of the way there so they should be able to make irish fun by the year 3000

I hear you
I am that soldier and I am sad
I really worked at it, i liked Irish but it was made so hard
I didnt grow up in a gaeltacht and wanted to learn but it was made hard
Never knew about french until secondary school and people left my class speaking more french than Irish because it was fun

ScumLord

I hated Irish in school, all my teachers where cunts. Every last one of them, now I wished I'd learned it. 18 years and not a word. I wish I had my school years over again as an adult, I honestly do wish I knew how to speak Irish, 18 fuppen years and not a word other than "can I go for a piss".

[Deleted User]

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Parler français pour moi, c'est facile. Mon ancienne petite amie était le français. Elle would'nt Parle-moi si je did'nt parler français!

and for the none French speakers.

Speaking French for me is easy. My former girlfriend was French. She would'nt Speak to me if I did'nt speak French!

You said elle wouldn't? Isn't it meant to be elle ne serait pas or elle ne serait and si je didn't goes to si je ne ? Sorry just spotted it and didn't know if you don't it by accident or it was a joke

Live with three french people and one Italian , getting better at French , just starting Italian.

CianRyan

fCUK IS NOT A BAD WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Sadly though, boards tuing s its is so i have to filter it... ¬.¬
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CliffHuxtabel

drzhivago wrote: »

I hear you
I am that soldier and I am sad
I really worked at it, i liked Irish but it was made so hard
I didnt grow up in a gaeltacht and wanted to learn but it was made hard
Never knew about french until secondary school and people left my class speaking more french than Irish because it was fun

irish was the thorn in my side in secondary school.

the language on its own was bad enough but we had this horrible old sow as teacher.

i can speak some german, french and italian but not even sharon ni fheolain (sic) could help me learn gaeilge

Snowie

liah wrote: »

That's so peculiar, but it's actually incredibly interesting.

The more you know!

Its not really its down to basic teaching, Teachers teach and kids want to learn, there's a devide there. I did'nt have that useual devide because the boreing teacher asking questions. Thats was'nt the case... It was fun to learn. I am genuinley dyslexic Ive got a sanctioned government report to say I am and all that mumbo jumbo that goes with it.

But if you really want to learn something you really can the problem with english could crasp the silent letters always caught me plus i didnt have, french lessons 3 days a week and my french teacher was amazing she engouraged a fun sense to learn french which made it all the better.
Its a fact kids learn twice as quick if its fun, plus at 7 years of age any child has a brain like a sponge.

French was something I'm good at.

As for english and my terrible, spelling at times I think its improoved hugely since I joined forums as its better to be able to type decent. I honestly tho thin i have good days where i can spell perfectly and others where I even use spell checker and it can't even decifer the words I spell..

Snowie

ScumLord wrote: »

French is durty.

:eek: try the women

Snowie

cHaTbOx wrote: »

You said elle wouldn't? Isn't it meant to be elle ne serait pas or elle ne serait and si je didn't goes to si je ne ? Sorry just spotted it and didn't know if you don't it by accident or it was a joke

Live with three french people and one Italian , getting better at French , just starting Italian.

Bye mistake me thinks thats why i can't work as a french translater i still get words wrong or type french and put a word in english with out noticing it

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Crumble Froo

well, my sister, at 16, has very good english, irish, pretty good french and bulgarian, and decent every day russian. i'd class her as being good with languages.

i went to the gaeltacht when i was 12/13 and had very poor irish (and grades at irish), and managed to pick it up very quickly, like, by the end of the first week i was practically fluent, while my room mate, despite having had a similar level of irish as me when we both started, was nowhere near as fluent after three weeks as i was after one week.

Davidius

You can be bad at languages. If you couldn't then everybody who didn't put the time in in my class would have gotten the same grade. :pac:

I hate learning languages myself. I can't follow them as they too often don't really make any sense due to the nature of their evolution and the differences from English. Too much learning things off at the beginning too. Also have great difficulty associating concepts with words that are not english. It sometimes takes me a while to link words with ideas in English too.

Much prefer maths. Not much in the way of memory learning and it makes sense.

[Deleted User]

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Bye mistake me thinks thats why i can't work as a french translater i still get words wrong or type french and put a word in english with out noticing it ...

Don't be sad , it's good , Just thought you were joking about .

I'm getting used to it a lot more now I have people who speak it around me. But one is what you call a salope!
Taking up spanish in the new year and have basic german so I may also work on that.

French isn't dirty like even **** sounds better in french imo(Merde)

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Parler français pour moi, c'est facile. Mon ancienne petite amie était le français. Elle would'nt Parle-moi si je did'nt parler français!

and for the none French speakers.

Speaking French for me is easy. My former girlfriend was French. She would'nt Speak to me if I did'nt speak French!

Honestly, that is quite clearly put through a free translation thing online.
That's the reason it says would'nt and did'nt in english because the grammar wasn't correct and it didn't know what you were trying to say.