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Borderlands

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderlands_%28video_game%29

This game is comming out this month it's developed by Gearbox Software same guys that did some of the Half-Life expantions and Brother in Arms.
Havn't even read anything about till yesterday when a mate gave me a link, it's a sci-fi/first person/rpg my favorite genre along the lines of System Shock 2 and Deus-Ex....hopefully

it's out on consoles on 20th oct and 28th pc and it has a 18 rating

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Gummy Panda

quite enjoy this game. Only played it for a little bit tonight. I was a WoW player so doing little crappy quests to level up is nothing new to me. Infact looking back, leveling my characters from 1-60, then 60-70 and finally 70-80 was more enjoyable then when i was max level waiting around for others to log on so i could do something.

I know i said i'd give this a miss but I was in gamestop today killing time and it was only €40 with a shiny box.

cable842

oh never happened in the 360 version. got stuck in a wall once in the game ha ha

Azza

Fallout 3 was fairly stable for me bar crash to desktop when exiting game, but nearly ever game on PC nowadays is considered a crash fest anyway.

Fnz

cable842 wrote: »

whats bugs ? in fall out

Are you being ironic? Fallout 3 was a PC crash-fest.

cable842

whats bugs ? in fall out

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Well personally I loved fallout 3 so if its anything like that (bar the bugs of course) I'd be happy.

Q_Ball

calex71 wrote: »

It's 800 ms points on xbox about $10 :eek:

For that money it would want to be a pretty hefty offering, in terms of new stuff etc.

Horse armour FTW!

Gunmonkey

Not out yet but runours from gearbox saying they want to get it out for Halloween, so end of the week at earliest.

As for siza/worth it-ness, due to the similar price and gamestyles (open-world RPG) I am hoping it is like the good Fallout 3 DLC (Broken Steel/Point Lookout) in terms of size and added enemies/items (kinda hard with Borderlands item generation system)

Will have to wait and see what Gearbox provides us with.

Sephiroth_dude

calex71 wrote: »

It's 800 ms points on xbox about $10 :eek:

For that money it would want to be a pretty hefty offering, in terms of new stuff etc.

Has it been released?It would want to be good for 10 quid.

calex71

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Looking forward to this :-) cant wait for the zombie content to be released.

It's 800 ms points on xbox about $10 :eek:

For that money it would want to be a pretty hefty offering, in terms of new stuff etc.

Sephiroth_dude

Looking forward to this :-) cant wait for the zombie content to be released.

Pwezem

Pre-Ordered it yesterday!

Can't wait

Check out my Sig

Gummy Panda

After buying the deluxe edition of demons souls and only finishing 1-1 so far, I think i'll give this a miss.

Fnz

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Its 40 quid in game, didn't look in Gamestop.

Sorry, I was talking about the PC version (when it's released). It will be €35 in Gamestop. Don't know why I though that was what you were referring to.

calex71

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

For anyone that brought it today,whats it like?

Looks Excellent!!!!!

Little or very little pop in and decent draw distance. (xbox version)

It's a very big game in terms or area and ground to cover.

Very enjoyable so far, co-op is ok too.

Word of warning for folks expecting this to be fallout , as i've seen it compared to fall out 3 a bit. It's nothing like fallout game play wise.

The rpg elements are there with the stats etc but light in comparrison to fallout. It's a shooter 1st and foremost.

Also one thing that kinda bugged me was the narrative / story there isnt really much to it most of the time you are doing missions that don't relate to the story and come by way of on screen text, it's rare you interact with a character with a voice over. There are not multiple choice conversations to be had either.

The limited inventory and no chest to store stuff was a bit annoying at 1st but I got over it once I realised guns could be found everywhere.

There is no option to change difficulty and this game is HARD in places, thankfully reload times and the 2nd wind system work well.

One other niggle is that when you save and exit the game when you go back to the game you start off back at the out post, meaning you have to fight your way back to where you where as the enemies respawn. So you can't get to a hard part , save, die and pick it up again.

For those who have played it , the claptraps are hillarious "c'mon look at me , I'm dancing , I'm dancing"

Over all though I think it's tonnes of fun to play, more fps with rpg-lite thrown in. 7/10.

Edit: Just reading a few other reviews on other sites, I'm not getting the whole only good on co-op thing it's perfectly ok solo , if anything ok with pal's but but it's only 4 player co-op so far from being MMORPG, you can go to an arena in game or start a dual with other players in your party but that was fun like the 1st time I did it. Most of the people I've played with were only there to muck about or try and mooch good weapons off me.

I get the distinct wiff of we secretly held back some stuff for dlc about this game though.

Zapp Brannigan

Fnz wrote: »

Local Gamestop says it will be €35. Direct 2 Drive has it for the same price

Its 40 quid in game, didn't look in Gamestop.

Sephiroth_dude

For anyone that brought it today,whats it like?

Fnz

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

40 quid on release in shops doesn't exactly fill me with confidence but I reckon I'll pick it up on sunday!

Local Gamestop says it will be €35. Direct 2 Drive has it for the same price

Zapp Brannigan

40 quid on release in shops doesn't exactly fill me with confidence but I reckon I'll pick it up on sunday!

Gunmonkey

Stev_o wrote: »

Christ some people are stupid (directing this towards the people complaining) mean seriously it's a game wait like everyone else for a week it's not going to kill you or impede your life in any shape or form.

Aye it is quite sad, you think people would understand the term "Release Day" at this stage, if some store puts their order of a game up early to try beat out the competition it has nothing to do with the developers/publishers, they stated the date the store should have sold it. Do people whine and complain as much when they buy a housing development and its not built when they sign the contract and have to wait?

Its all coming out since Gearbox made a post about how legitimate early release players will get to play but pirates will be SoL, dunno if it stretched to the PC version though. Is there as much complaints when Valve let ya pre-load a game on Steam but its locked till the release date??

Stupidist thing is, most will claim "I payed for it, you owe me a game, I can play it whenever I want, its mine now"......would be funny to see their reactions to reading the EULA on Borderlands

Stev_o

Ziggurat wrote: »

Whew! Well, I'm just back from the Gearbox forums and let me tell you it's not pretty.

Basically, the PC release date was broken both in the US and EU. As such, people were enquiring as to whether the activation servers would now be switched on (apparently there were advertisements stating that all versions, 360/PS3/PC, would be released on 20/10/2009).
Long story short, they're not going to.

I'll be buying this anyway. After watching some gameplay videos it's exactly the kind of thing I'm after.

Christ some people are stupid (directing this towards the people complaining) mean seriously it's a game wait like everyone else for a week it's not going to kill you or impede your life in any shape or form.

Ziggurat

Whew! Well, I'm just back from the Gearbox forums and let me tell you it's not pretty.

Basically, the PC release date was broken both in the US and EU. As such, people were enquiring as to whether the activation servers would now be switched on (apparently there were advertisements stating that all versions, 360/PS3/PC, would be released on 20/10/2009).
Long story short, they're not going to.

I'll be buying this anyway. After watching some gameplay videos it's exactly the kind of thing I'm after.

Sarky

Sounds more like Diablo with guns. Perhaps with a touch of Painkiller. Where WoW makes hacking your way through a hundred enemies a really boring exercise in clicking, Diablo and Painkiller made it a hilariously fun hacky-slashy bloodsoaked maimathon. They used similar mechanics, but the difference in how they approach the subject made all the difference.

I'm intrigued enough to pick it up next week.

Zapp Brannigan

Gummy Panda wrote: »

So this is basically a loot game that you need friends to play with?

It would seem that way. Also apparently there's no loot priority in the game so if you play with randoms you might get all your loot ninja'd! Reckon I might give it a bash.

Gummy Panda

So this is basically a loot game that you need friends to play with?

Fnz

Shryke wrote: »

As for not expecting good narrative in games, bull****. Games are a perfectly fine medium for story telling. Just look at Half Life as an excellent example.

Yeah the medium can, and has, been used to tell good stories but going from experience 99% games with a narrative, have depressingly average ones.

Shryke wrote: »

I might add you'll find the majority of books/TV shows/graphic novels or whatever are utterly useless also. It's the good stuff I read and watch, and also play.

Yeah, I rarely watch TV because a lot of it is utter crap. I'm not disputing that there is a lot of chaff out there in all mediums. I still know that if I'm after a gripping narrative, games are the last medium I'd turn to as theirs is generally of a lower standard than can be had elsewhere. They have other priorities and strengths. Imo, there are a lot of "5h1t eaters" out there who will praise a games narrative even though the same narrative would be seen as mediocre if it were used in, say, a novel.

Shryke wrote: »

The fact that this is a FPS RPG made me think it would be a good single player experience. The fact that it seemingly could have been if it wasn't skewed for the multiplayer market disappoints. And it's a valid point if you ask me.

Not to be overly sarcastic, but it's a shame it isn't all things to all people. I'm guessing with finite resources they had to choose certain aspects to focus on and it looks like the single player experience is what suffered.

Shryke

Chances are I will get Fallout anyway.

As for not expecting good narrative in games, bull****. Games are a perfectly fine medium for story telling. Just look at Half Life as an excellent example.
I might add you'll find the majority of books/TV shows/graphic novels or whatever are utterly useless also. It's the good stuff I read and watch, and also play.
The fact that this is a FPS RPG made me think it would be a good single player experience. The fact that it seemingly could have been if it wasn't skewed for the multiplayer market disappoints. And it's a valid point if you ask me.
And I'm not big on the sax, or dance "music".

Stercus Accidit

Shryke wrote: »

I was hoping this would be a nice immersive experience but most reviews seem to be saying not to bother if your not going to co-op the whole thing. Gamepots review especially. They basically said, just don't buy it if your playing alone. I love the style of it so that's a pity.
I hate developers for pissing on the single player experience. More effort is put into multiplayer than into campaigns these days. For me the actual game is the campaign. I want narrative ffs.
I'd like to hear thoughts from people actually playing it though. Worth it? Or should I just get Fallout GotY edition.

Fallout is absolutely brilliant, this may be new but if I could buy fallout all over again I would, borderlands at best from reviews, looks like it may tide me over until the next fallout as a stand in.

Get fallout anyway, regardless if you get this thing.

Fnz

Shryke wrote: »

I was hoping this would be a nice immersive experience but most reviews seem to be saying not to bother if your not going to co-op the whole thing. Gamepots review especially. They basically said, just don't buy it if your playing alone. I love the style of it so that's a pity.
I hate developers for pissing on the single player experience. More effort is put into multiplayer than into campaigns these days. For me the actual game is the campaign. I want narrative ffs.

Games aren't a one-size-fits-all, though. How irritating is it when people complain from the other direction, that there's no multiplayer in otherwise excellent games? Things cut both ways. This just so happens to be balanced towards coop play. Time and resources dedicated towards refining the single player experience may have negatively impacted the multiplayer.

Wanting a good narrative in games is like wanting good saxophone solos in dance music. Sure you might find a good example every now and then but, based on past examples, you're kind of looking in the wrong place. Try a book/TV show/graphic novel/charity collection leaflet for generally superior saxophone solo narrative than that found in games.

Mantel

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Is this Warcraft with Guns?

Some people are saying it's Diablo with guns (and first person) or you could call it a good Hellgate: London.

PirateShampoo

Is this Warcraft with Guns?