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CycloAssault

grundie

So there I was was, walkign home from work just before 6pm yesterday. I had got to the pedestrian crossing between Grainger's pub on Talbot Street and Connolly station.

There was a red man for pedestrains, but there weren't any cars passign at the time. So some people were nipping across from the direction of Connolly.

A cyclist comes shooting through heading north up Amiens Street and rather than slow down, he starts screaming "F***ING MOVE" and ringing his bell at the people crossing. A lady who was crossing just managed to get out of his way and as he passes her, he punches her on the shoulder sending her crashing to the ground where she ended up with bleeding knees, nose and hands.

He was going so fast no one got a good look at him, other than to determine he was wearing a suit and carrying a laptop bag on his back.

Someone called the Gards, but the cyclist was going too quick for anyone to get a descriptions so I don't think anything will come of it. The lady who got punched was quite upset initially, but went on her way after 10 minutes saying it was her fault and refusing offers of medical assistance.

I know pedestrians really shouldn't cross the road when the red man is lit, but don't drivers and cyclist also have a responsibility to slow down when someone is in the road rather than speed up and lash out?

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tunney

hobochris wrote: »

Would you cop on!

1. The cyclist is bound by the rules of the road, which state in a public place road users must give way to pedestrians. This cyclist was a road user.

2. While the women should have waited for the pedestrian crossing, It was the cyclist that was reckless.

The cyclist broke the law what ever way you look at it, its either assault or failing to observe the rules of the road.

As did she. Two wrongs don't make a right, but she won't do it again.

Canis Lupus

hobochris wrote: »

Would you cop on!

1. The cyclist is bound by the rules of the road, which state in a public place road users must give way to pedestrians. This cyclist was a road user.

2. While the women should have waited for the pedestrian crossing, It was the cyclist that was reckless.

The cyclist broke the law what ever way you look at it, its either assault or failing to observe the rules of the road.

Shame the law doesn't take stupidity into account

LEIN

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Shame the law doesn't take stupidity into account

There would be a few from here arrested in that case!

grundie

tunney wrote: »

Punched? Or a shove? All we have is one persons intrepretation of what they saw.

It was a punch. Made with his left hand connecting with her upper right shoulder.

Mossy Monk

caseyann wrote: »

You don't like women much do you :rolleyes:
He had no right what so ever to put his hands on her and he should get a hiding same as if a woman hits a man she should get a hiding to:mad:

Why would you try to turn this into a sexism issue?

She broke the rules so tough **** imo

hobochris

tunney wrote: »

As did she. Two wrongs don't make a right, but she won't do it again.

She as a pedestrian is top of the pecking order when it comes to right of way according to rules of the road.So while a bit of common sense could have been applied by her she is not legally bound to the same rules the cyclist is as a road user.

Mossy Monk wrote: »

She broke the rules so tough **** imo

I think you should make yourself more familiar with the law on this issue.

She didn't break the rules, she just didn't follow logical convention, The cyclist on the hand broke the law!

tunney

grundie wrote: »

It was a punch. Made with his left hand connecting with her upper right shoulder.

And you could see that his fist was closed?
Sounds awfully like he pushed her out of the way and *saved* her from a collision with a bicycle.

seamus

hobochris wrote: »

1. The cyclist is bound by the rules of the road, which state in a public place road users must give way to pedestrians. This cyclist was a road user.

No they don't.

wudangclan

she also broke the law.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a46

punching her,however, was a bit harsh,perhaps.

tunney

hobochris wrote: »

She as a pedestrian is top of the pecking order when it comes to right of way according to rules of the road.So while a bit of common sense could have been applied by her she is not legally bound to the same rules the cyclist is as a road user.

I think you should make yourself more familiar with the law on this issue.

She didn't break the rules, she just didn't follow logical convention, The cyclist on the hand broke the law!

I must remember the next time a guard cautions me for jay walking that a bloke on boards said i don't have to worry about where and how I cross the round.

LEIN

tunney wrote: »

I must remember the next time a guard cautions me for jay walking that a bloke on boards said i don't have to worry about where and how I cross the round.

Its not illegal here so you don't have to worry about that ever happening.

Quazzie

caseyann wrote: »

You don't like women much do you :rolleyes:

Her sex has no relevance. Her stupidity does

caseyann wrote: »

He had no right what so ever to put his hands on her and he should get a hiding same as if a woman hits a man she should get a hiding to:mad:

How do you know he put is hands on her?

Canis Lupus

tunney wrote: »

I must remember the next time a guard cautions me for jay walking that a bloke on boards said i don't have to worry about where and how I cross the round.

Walk accross the M50 with a large sign displaying you're above the oncoming traffic in the pecking order.

(have an ambulance on standby)

Wossack

Quazzie wrote: »

RED MEANS STOP!.

and green means proceed if the way is clear

jebuz

no bleeding kneed for that

stovelid

From my cycling days, the only thing that used to stop me ploughing into jaywalking twats as hard as I could was the fear that I might fall off the bike myself.

I dislike cycling fanatics myself, don't get me wrong, but the arrogance and stupidity of some pedestrians (to a cyclist or motorist) beggars belief, despite how wrong the cyclist was in this instance.

grundie

tunney wrote: »

And you could see that his fist was closed?
Sounds awfully like he pushed her out of the way and *saved* her from a collision with a bicycle.

Closed fist.

She had just got out of his way and he lashed out as he had been forced to slow down a bit. After striking her he stood on his pedals to speed up after looking round to see her on the ground - and possibly because the 15-20 people waiting to cross looked pissed off with him.

I have a very clear recollection of the incident. This is due to the fact that when I first seen the cyclist speeding along shouting at the people ahead of him crossing, I thought to myself that there was potential for something interesting to happen.

[Deleted User]

In some countries, jaywalking will land you in court.

wudangclan

stovelid wrote: »

From my cycling days, the only thing that used to stop me ploughing into jaywalking twats as hard as I could was the fear that I might fall off the bike myself.

I dislike cycling fanatics myself, don't get me wrong, but the arrogance and stupidity of some pedestrians (to a cyclist or motorist) beggars belief, despite how wrong the cyclist was in this instance.

as a motorcyclist i would have much the same gripe.
the amount of people who walk,with nary a glance, between lines of cars,slowed by traffic,is staggering and i've had a few very close calls.

stovelid

wudangclan wrote: »

as a motorcyclist i would have much the same gripe.
the amount of people who walk,with nary a glance, between lines of cars,slowed by traffic,is staggering and i've had a few very close calls.

Or morons that stand on the road while waiting for the light to change, thus giving a cyclist (or even motorists) the option of clipping them or having to suddenly veer out of your lane/away from the kerb.

Seriously, good enough for the morons if they get a whack.

Long Onion

Given the lady's lack of dramatic response, I am of the opinion that she is quietly plotting revenge and will return to the scene later, under the cover of darkness - she will then proceed to stretch some piano wire between the traffic light posts at the correct height to ensure instant decapitation for all cyclists.

(Could someone phone John Gormely and tell him that they are giving away free hemp tampons at that location - thanks)

tunney

Damo9090 wrote: »

Its not illegal here so you don't have to worry about that ever happening.

Not what I was very forcible told on Dorset street some time ago by two guards.

LEIN

tunney wrote: »

Not what I was very forcible told on Dorset street some time ago by two guards.

Its not law. You must have done something really dangerous.

Cookie_Monster

Quazzie wrote: »

Did the guy on the bike that broke no laws deserve to get decked by a lady breaking the law and knocking him off his bike at speed causing considerably more damage. He was dead right to protect himself.

A green light mean only proceed if it is safe to do so/ proceed with caution.

Clearly he showed no caution at all. Pedestrians as the most vulnerable road user will nearly never be found at fault for stuff like this. She clearly wasn't in the way if he had to reach out and strike her. Sounds like assault to me.

TheZohanS

What would have happened to her had he just driven straight into her? Would she have been better or worse off?

LEIN

TheZohan wrote: »

What would have happened to her had he just driven straight into her? Would she have been better or worse off?

A few broken bones i would imagine. Then he would have been caught and given 6 months with any luck!

stovelid

Damo9090 wrote: »

Then he would have been caught and given 6 months with any luck!

Six months for accidentally running into a jaywalker on his pushbike?

You reckon?

cosmic

Damo9090 wrote: »

Then he would have been caught and given 6 months with any luck!

What country are you living in?

LEIN

stovelid wrote: »

Six months for accidentally running into a jaywalker on his pushbike?

You reckon?

cosmic wrote: »

What country are you living in?

On purpose and causing serious harm to a pedestrian! Then he would deserve everything he gets.

brianthebard

Damo9090 wrote: »

This is AH. What did you expect?

scumbag/traveller/foreigner bashing?