LZ5by5 wrote: » To be fair, on paper this sounds pretty sweet; Reina Agger---Carra---Skrtel---- -Aurelio Johnson- Up to there, I had no problem with the formation, and had Gerrard and Torres been fit I'm sure it would have worked.
SlickRic wrote: » he tried to do too much on his own, absolutely, and i'm not defending his performance as much as it may seem. apologies. he maybe got the ball more than i made out, but like i said during the game, he and kuyt had zero support. all our players - dirk, yossi, even johnson trying to run through players because of a lack of other options, as well as his own poor play. our midfield, for whatever reason, was as stagnant as muck. again, the tactics and formation were the main culprits today for me; and i'm never quick to blame rafa. there were also too many poor performances. but it honestly looked like the players had no idea what to do in that f***ing system.
Trilla wrote: » why does it matter? I'm a football fan. LOI, premiership, La Liga, my back garden, FIFA 10, subbuteo and Football Manager. Kuyt and Beny are not the type of players you should be relying on to get results away from home against in form on the up teams...average, squad players and massively inconsistent. Especially Yossi
Mr Alan wrote: » both are superb players. if you wanted to pick holes in our team, they are not the lads to go for!
only1stevo wrote: » So apt Feck wont work, someone get 99 red balloons up lads
Trilla wrote: » But thats my point...It would be like United looking towards Carrick and Nani (as apposed to a Giggs, Rooney, even a Michael Owen) to change a game or take it by the bullhorns Not good enough was harsh and out of context I retract that....it might stand for Nani though!
Trilla wrote: » I love Kuyt, hats off to effort and awareness. But to looking to those two players as your match winers for games like this...is miles off! I know, Pool don't have much else when Gerrard, Torres and the likes are absent. But thats my point...It would be like United looking towards Carrick and Nani (as apposed to a Giggs, Rooney, even a Michael Owen) to change a game or take it my the bullhorns Not good enough was harsh and out of context I retract that....it might stand for Nani though!
SlickRic wrote: » we never play it though, ever. why change a system that has been so successful for us, just to play all of our top class defenders? it is very simplistic to say it would've worked with Stevie and Nando.
Trilla wrote: » NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Trilla wrote: » Kuyt and Beny are not the type of players you should be relying on to get results away from home against in form on the up teams...average, squad players and massively inconsistent.
Trilla wrote: » I love Kuyt
rarnes1 wrote: » From and to in ths space of 5 minutes :eek: Fickle??
rarnes1 wrote: » Fickle??
Trilla wrote: » Cant love average players now? Heck I love Kilbane and he's terrible ! I love Fletcher too....some people consider him average as hell And I retracted that not good enough statement, stated it as over the top and harsh. Is that clear enough for you?
postalservice wrote: » post # 286 :cool:http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62579105&postcount=286
rarnes1 wrote: » Fair enough. Emotions run high for a few hours after a match !!
Trilla wrote: » I know man. I was in Old trafford last year a few times...unfortunately the Liverpool game was one of them. Best of luck next week!
flahavaj wrote: » Mark this one down as Rafa's fault. Was a difficult away game against the most improved team in the league, with your two star players out injured and 5 other squad members just back in the country from S. America and Oz really the right time to debut a formation that they'd never really played at all before? Furthermore, has ANY team ever really used the three at the back formation to any great success in the premier league?:eek: Also his decision to splash out on a player who was injured for the first 2 months of the season has backfired totally. And this in a season when Liverpool genuinely had their best chance at the title given their form at the end of the season and with pretty much all their title rivals either weakened or under new management. Hitting the ground running should have been the absolute priority.
SlickRic wrote: » we know you're sound and all
Liverpool Rafa Benitez refused to blame the fluke goal which gave Sunderland their 1-0 victory. The only goal at the Stadium of Light arrived after five minutes when Darren Bent's shot deflected off a beach ball and past the helpless Jose Reina. But Benitez admits the goal should have stood and he could have no complaints about the result after a poor performance. "It was a special situation, but we didn't play well and so I don't want to talk about that - we didn't play well and we made some mistakes, we gave the ball away and we couldn't take our chances," said Benitez. "These things happen, it is a bad situation for us as it was in the middle and very influential but we didn't play well and that is the main thing for me." When asked if he thought the goal should have been disallowed, he replied: "It is a technical question, but if you look at the opposite and the ball went wide, then a goal would not have been given so on this occasion it has to be a goal and that is it. "We have to do better if we want to win these sort of games." Title dreams Benitez also insisted that their fourth defeat in nine league games does not mean their title hopes have gone. "In a normal season if the teams at the top of the table win every single game then it would be different," he said. "Look at this year Chelsea have already lost two games and I think this year will see teams at the top losing a lot of games. "This is bad, but whether it is crucial depends on the next few games, you have to keep your confidence and keep working hard. "We are not going to talk about the title as we have an important game in midweek and then another game on Sunday. Our priority is to take as many points as we can from every single game. "We are making some mistakes and we have to try and find the solutions and in these difficult games we have to improve." He also played down his touchline spat with Steve Bruce. "There was no argument, I was just asking about the time. I was talking with the fourth official and he wanted to argue with me," he said. Benitez also said he was hopeful that Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres would be fit to face Lyon in midweek. "Both are improving but it is too soon to say, we will see how they progress. As a team we have to keep working hard," he concluded.
bayviewclose wrote: » They say the balloon belonged to pool fan. Can see the headlines tomorrow "Balloon deflates pools title hopes"!