johnnyskeleton wrote: » People hate journalists. Kevin Myers is a journalist. People hate journalists who have opinions even more than they hate other journalists. Kevin Myers' job is to express minority opinions. People hate journalists who have an opinion different to theirs. Kevin Myers' job is to publish minority opinions which, of necessity, are different to most peoples. While I disagree with most of what he says, he performs an important function by disagreeing with what he perceives as the majority opinion, or at least the majority opinion of the media.
Joey the lips wrote: » Nahh Eammonn Dunphry is disliked because the truth hurts. Kevin Myers is disliked because when he tells you something you get the feeling that his comments come with a " Well if you dont like that you can shove it...." line!
irish_bob wrote: » the media in ireland is overwhelmingly liberal so kevin myers sticks out like a sore thumb , he isnt afraid to bring up sacred cows like immigration or feminism etc , the man is a national treasure
Ziggurat wrote: » Myers is little more than a polemicist and like all polemicists he thrives off of manufacturing controversy
Nodin wrote: » The Sindo...liberal bastion....?
irish_bob wrote: » you are mistaken in thinking he represents minority opinion , the media in ireland is not representitive of most irish peoples views , its is disproportionatley left wing and most irish people are not left wing
Agricola wrote: » I think hes abit like Declan Ganly in that if he had an Irish accent he'd be more accepted. Its because of his middle class Brit twang and the fact he likes to batter republicanism at least once a week in his column, thats hes widely disliked.
Justind wrote: » Doesn't write for the "Sindo" which is of course, the Sunday Independent as we all know.
Agricola wrote: » I think hes abit like Declan Ganly in that if he had an Irish accent he'd be more accepted. Its because of his middle class Brit twang and the fact he likes to batter republicanism at least once a week in his column, thats hes widely disliked. Personally, I think hes usually on the money. Its just alot of his pieces are wrapped up in such hyperbole and long winded english that I cant be bothered to get to the point most times!
“What most struck me while watching BBC television news reports of the Christmas sales in the West End of London, was firstly obvious, and secondly, it was something that no one with the BBC would ever have remarked on. It was this. The shoppers — and there were thousands of them — were overwhelmingly of Asian or African origin. In the vast throngs of faces, there was barely a Caucasian face to be seen; and when there was, of course, that was no guarantee that it was British.”
Nodin wrote: » (my bold)http://bnp.org.uk/tag/kevin-myers/ Why he's here on this side of the water when the BNP and Stormfront are so keen on him I don't know.
FlutterinBantam wrote: » I read him an odd time and most of the time he is dead right.
London had always attracted immigrants, who have generally become assimilated into the population around them.
Perhaps a majority of players in any good English team will be of at least part-African origin. This is surely worth commenting on, for many reasons, not the least of them being the rapid disappearance of role models for white working-class boys...
FlutterinBantam wrote: » In my opinion he speaks it as he sees it, and doesn't give the usual mealy mouthed platitudes so beloved of the liberal left who don't give Jack Schidt as long as they have some flyblown cause to rattle on about.
FlutterinBantam wrote: » We need more people like him, in my opinion, who are not afraid to face down the bleeding heart liberals who would have us funding every frikken jackass who is too lazy to help him or herself in any part of the globe and who get involved in causes that they have nothing to do with or have no need to get involved in.
irish_bob wrote: » the man is a national treasure
Mr. Incognito wrote: » The Indo is a rag. The Sunday indo is a bigger rag. I buy neither so Kevin Myers is long forgotten in my world. Where the hell did he get that accent? Was it inserted up his hole in Trinity?
johnnyskeleton wrote: » I appreciate that the majority media opinion may not be the opinion of the majority of Irish people (I think I said so in my post). However, I don't think that the media is disproportionately left wing. I think overall the Irish media is centre-right with a healthy does of liberal attitudes, much like most things in Ireland. Kevin Meyers' opinion can't properly be described as right wing either: some times his views could be considered extreme right wing, others fairly left wing. Usually though, I think he just shoots from the hip and disagrees with what he perceives as accepted wisdom.
population wrote: » I do not care what accent anyone has. But his article last year on Africa was about the closest thing to incitement to hatred I think I had ever read in an Irish newspaper. I spoke to a very high ranking member of the Garda about another matter on the day that article came out, and he was genuinely shocked by it's content and it's potential to lead to pockets of violence towards members of the immigrant community. Myers got a rap on the knuckles from the press complaints commision and rather than take his medicine tried to blame it all on the Sub in the Indo who wrote the title. Noble brave man indeed.
irish_bob wrote: » how anyone could deny the media in ireland is not left wing is beyond me , evidence is everywhere , joe higgins when he lost his dail seat in 2007 was just as big a feature on tv and radio afterwards , richard boyd barrett who only got elected to town council level this year has been a regular contributor on tv and radio this number of years despite being nothing but a proffessional protestor , both theese men represent a tiny minority of public opinion , if you watch vincent brownes show , he has academics like ciaran allen make regular appearanced in which they call for bolshevism from the irish public and more or less brand certain business people as being criminals , the poverty industry seems to have someone on brownes show at least once a week , telling us how unequal a society we have , i have yet to see anyone on brownes show make the case for an all out privitisation of the health service , the narrative in irish media is quite obviously liberal to me and many others
irish_bob wrote: » how anyone could deny the media in ireland is not left wing is beyond me , evidence is everywhere , joe higgins when he lost his dail seat in 2007 was just as big a feature on tv and radio afterwards
richard boyd barrett who only got elected to town council level this year has been a regular contributor on tv and radio this number of years despite being nothing but a proffessional protestor , both theese men represent a tiny minority of public opinion
if you watch vincent brownes show , he has academics like ciaran allen make regular appearanced in which they call for bolshevism from the irish public and more or less brand certain business people as being criminals , the poverty industry seems to have someone on brownes show at least once a week , telling us how unequal a society we have , i have yet to see anyone on brownes show make the case for an all out privitisation of the health service , the narrative in irish media is quite obviously liberal to me and many others
starbelgrade wrote: » “What most struck me while watching BBC television news reports of the Christmas sales in the West End of London, was firstly obvious, and secondly, it was something that no one with the BBC would ever have remarked on. It was this. The shoppers — and there were thousands of them — were overwhelmingly of Asian or African origin. In the vast throngs of faces, there was barely a Caucasian face to be seen; and when there was, of course, that was no guarantee that it was British.” (Kevin Myers) I honestly can't see anything wrong with this statement...
djpbarry wrote: » If taken in isolation, there is nothing wrong with it, in the literal sense. However, when taken in the context of the entire article, there is something wrong (see my post above). Or let’s look at it another way; suppose we do take the above statement in isolation – what do you think he’s trying to say?
MikeC101 wrote: » Given the amount of hotels, embassies, international organisations, tourist attractions and shops in the West End, it might not be all that surprising to see the majority of shoppers "overwhelmingly of Asian or African origin". Especially if it was filmed during office hours, then the vast majority of those shopping would be tourists, no? His statement though, I assume is referring to immigration, and he's trying to insinuate there has been too much in London? Or immigrants from certain geographical areas are over represented? Of course, if you're of a certain...political persuasion... it could be taken to mean the immigrants done took all the jobs and benefits and so on, and thus are the only ones who can afford to shop. I don't know, it's a bit of a nothing statement in my opinion - just trying to stir up some controversy on Myers behalf. For the record, I don't mind him really. I don't often agree with him, but he does occasionally have a good point to get across, and even when I disagree with him it's always interesting to read about a different viewpoint.
