sunnyside wrote: » See I totally understand the living on a budget thing, my circumstances are different, I pay a mortgage on my own and live like a poor student a lot of the time as a result. People saying the dole is too much should read your budget. I'm not sure why they are so anti-car. You are spending all your money on that while others spend it on drink and cigarettes but nobody moans about that much. There is so much inequality in the sort of bills people have it's impossible to say how much people need. I know someone on the dole living at home who spends most of it on clothes shopping because she doesn't have a single bill to her name, not even one. She doesn't even need phone credit, uses the parents landline.
Johnnnybravo wrote: » My loan is for my night college as well as the car Ive no regrets with taking it out, I wanted an education and I got one( even though some people here also think thats free, Griffith have a different theory lads). So then 44 left for food etc.............Id be really drunk on that
thethedev wrote: » Agreed. On a seperate note, I was on the the 204 a week a while back and found it very easy to live on. But only because I was living at home with no rent ESB gas or groceries. Reduce it for people who live at home and send the money saved on to the people with mortages etc
feb09 wrote: » The dole is obviously too much. It is not so long ago in this county that even people with jobs could not afford a car. But now people who are not working think they should be able to afford a car on the dole. Unbelievable
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Get a grip of yourself! This is not the horse and cart days anymore. You think people on dole should have nothing?? If you took 2 minutes to read my posts youd read most of that loan was educational,next youl be telling me Im not entitled to that either! Me hole Im not!
sunnyside wrote: » This annoys me too, part of the reason people like you are living way below the poverty line is that you have paid/borrowed to train for a professional job. If you needed to do basic computers or other FAS type course the government would be paying for that but they won't pay for your part time short-term course even though it would cost them nothing more than a FAS place costs.
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Rent 80e Loan 80e Groceries 15e Petrol 10e
mikemac wrote: » Well I suppose going on the dole and selling your car and cycling everywhere would get you superfit at least :cool:
nouveau_4.0 wrote: » Tough situation agreed. You could find a place in most towns around the country for less than 80e rent. Also what car do you drive. 80e seems like a hefty loan. Could you see the car, downsize and pay off the loan. This could free up half the dole to be spent on other things. (80e loan + 20e rent deduction)
Johnnnybravo wrote: » well theres no comparison, its not even the same currency, I believe it to be a stupid argument. No comparison between the costs of living here or the UK so Im amazed at people using it as part of an argument.
irish_bob wrote: » the dole here is 300% of what it is in the uk , the cost of living in ireland is about 130% and at most 150% of what it is in the uk
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Im done fighting over this, I got some sh%tty news this morning so in the grand scheme of things I dont really care about this argument anymore.
irish_bob wrote: » why bother quoting my post when you didnt adress a single part of it
Johnnnybravo wrote: » . What anyone else does has no impact on my life so my 200e should have no impact on yours so who cares. Some say its too much others say its not honestly I no longer care. Im in the course of speaking with the enterptise boards about setting up my own company yay for me, begrudgers and stats wont be holding me back.
Fol20 wrote: » What other people do definitely affects you,,who do you think is paying for your dole?Who are the voters who affect what politicians can/cannot do to the dole.Everything is interlinked whether you like it or not. Good for you for applying to the enterprise boards,they can be very helpful if you have the right ideas,and i wish you all the best in your plans
angel01 wrote: » No I don't think it is too much, my OH is on the dole and we have barely enough to live on , every month it is a big struggle but we get by (just about), to be honest, if I didn't have the job I do have, we would have sunk by now
Johnnnybravo wrote: » God angel I know exactly what you mean by big struggle, even reading it I was like yep theres someone who knows what a pain month end is!! Hope your OH finds something soon:) I know not that easy but staying positive helps.
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Cheers Angel! None of us are down and out yet so we may keep positive and hopefully meself and your lad may have a new job for xmas
Fol20 wrote: » What other people do definitely affects you,,who do you think is paying for your dole?Who are the voters who affect what politicians can/cannot do to the dole.Everything is interlinked whether you like it or not.
Fiii wrote: » I tried my best not to reply to this thread until now, but this comment really peed me right off. You think YOU pay for MY dole??? I think not dear. I paid my tax and PRSI in full for 10 straight years. I paid for my own dole thank you very much. If I didn't, I wouldn't be entitled to it. Try to educate yourself before you spout out a load of rubbish like that. I, like MANY others, was put in a very awkward position this year and was let go from my job that I had worked very hard to get. I worked my tail off through 4 years of college, got my dream job and worked my tail off in that also. Do you actually think that we all WANT to be on Job Seekers benefit? (Oh, and for the record, the clue is in the title...Job Seekers. You have to prove you are actively seeking work). I do not get my rent paid for, I do not get a medical card, I do not get free public transport as some uneducated people seem to think I do. I get 204 a week, and that is it. I am living away from home, paying rent, bills etc. Now I am fortunately one of the lucky ones who doesn't have a mortgage or loans or children to pay for, so 204 a week did me just fine, but it was not by any means easy! I feel terribly sorry for anyone with a family to support living on those benefits. There is a HUGE difference between scroungers who have never worked a day in their lives and do not intend to, and those who lost their jobs this year due to the economy and would like nothing more than to be back working. So climb down off your high horse, because I can safely say that nothing you have done effects my benefits that I worked bloody hard all these years to earn. I, very luckily, got a phonecall today, telling me I have a job, after only 3months of being without one. To any of you out there still looking, I wish you all the luck in the world, and I hope you are managing on what you do get. I know it's not easy. Try to keep your heads up. Fi
professore wrote: » The kind of people that are all high and mighty about the dole are also the same ones who have dad standing behind them with a big wallet if they can't find a job. These are the same people who have been screwing the rest of us during the boom and now want us to suffer again to bail them out. You know who you are.
Fiii wrote: » I tried my best not to reply to this thread until now, but this comment really peed me right off. You think YOU pay for MY dole??? I think not dear. I paid my tax and PRSI in full for 10 straight years. I paid for my own dole thank you very much. Fi
