flanum wrote: » Will you be lying on in bed till twelve oclock tomorrow? i certainly will be, but thats cos i start WORK tomorrow at 2, til 12!
Johnnnybravo wrote: » uggg this thread is actually making me want to hurt strangers so Im going to have to unsubscribe. Just for the record NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES! People had loans when they had jobs and the loans do not disappear when the job does unfortunately. Also rent differs depending on where you live if its a house share etc. I for one will not be moving into an 8 man houseshare and getting rid of my car because Im on the dole. Mightaswell go get a gun and blow me fukn head off right now if thats the case. Still laughing at the suggestion of buying frivilous crap unless you count personal hygiene products as frivilous as theyd be the biggest irregular outlay. Here lads Im off to sell me car move back with mammy and use vinegar and butter to wash meself:rolleyes: FUX SAKE. K Im off before I really loose it.
Fol20 wrote: » i know too many people getting dole and student grants,that are just going straight into pub everyday..
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » Most landlords will not agree to rent allowance.
Irishcrx wrote: » Am I the only one that thinks the dole is far too high in this country, why would anyone want to get a job even if there was any. I have a mate I live it and he has more bloody money than I do and I work 45 hours a week. He has his rent payed for him by the government and pays 30 euro a month himself, and then the extra 200 a week as normal and this is without lifting a finger all he does all day is sleep, eat, smoke and eat and complain about being busy if he has to walk 5 mins to the shop at some point in the next 4 hours. Do you think the government will be forced to cut the dole payments if the national debt and unemployment keeps rising?
janullrich wrote: » Thank you Deadhead. At least somebody is talking sense about the dole. To those who think it is too much try living on the damn thing. I PAID my taxes. Now when I've lost my job I expect the government to help me till I try to find something or set something up.
carlmango11 wrote: » I think if people can save the dole theirs should be lowered. Also we really have to stop giving 18 year olds fresh out of school €210 a week. My friend is in that position, didn't bother to apply for college and now can afford to spend €210 a WEEK on nightclubs, taxis, take-aways, weed etc. etc. while other people his age are being punished for trying to learn and actually get a job. No money, €1500 a year registration fees, and possible fees next year. Sometimes it seems everyone but the government know how to run this country. Scrap the dole for under 20's living with their parents.
Fol20 wrote: » Is it just me or does this sound like someone that live above their means..Still living in the good day imo..be a bit more pragmatic instead of having the latest bmws etc.. The dole is well too high,as mentioned already its about a quarter of the amount in Britain and i doubt inflation is that high!As mentioned earlier,it should be paid on the basis of receipts..with a small miscellaneous amount..This way the money is spent responsibly and effectively in todays economic climate..i know too many people getting dole and student grants,that are just going straight into pub everyday..
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Yep driving a peugeot 206 and living in a housing estate is the life boy:rolleyes:
homerjay2005 wrote: » it should definately be means tested, there are too many things wrong as pointed out in this thread already. i do have to say though, that anybody who has their rent paid and still cant afford to live off 200euro a week, needs to get a grip. if your on the dole and struggling, then your spending too much or above your means. people in ireland are poor at spending money. maybe that will change. people with Kids and a mortgage is the only concern i have, but saying that, some single mams i know get 1000's a month and live life of luxury.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » Are you fcuking serious? If you are on the dole and struggling you are spending too much? Some people live in fcuking la la land, sheltered all their lives by mammy and daddy, not knowing what real life is all about. To those people I say GTFO.
Stark wrote: » Pity about you.
Johnnnybravo wrote: » well Im just stating that has been suggested im not driving a bloody bmw awright! People in here just have an instant dislike to people on the dole. Im well paid up on me stamps and will be claiming anything thats going.And I wont be getting rid a me car cos people might think dole folk shouldnt have one.
Stark wrote: » I've no problem with people who've paid their stamps having basic comforts while they look for work, but I'd still consider a car to be a luxury item and I would agree with the sentiment that long term welfare recipients shouldn't be having the State buying cars for them. Plenty of Irish people snubbed their noses at available jobs during the course of this decade as they'd lose comforts by working instead of signing on.
Ste.phen wrote: » IUnder what scheme are the majority of the free travel passes to under 65s given out then?
Stark wrote: » And some people have never had to survive on minimum wage.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » Minimum wage is more than social welfare... How can you not see the differance? Seriously. The lack of education in this thread is unreal.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » A car isn't a luxery item, not in a developed country. Also, nobody gives a flying fcuk what you think or what you consider a luxery item to be. In most cases, it is a essential for work.
Stark wrote: » Explain to me how someone who's on the dole full-time "needs a car for work"? What about people on low paying jobs who can't afford a car yet still manage to work?
Stark wrote: » You don't get allowances while on minimum wage and there are expenses associated with getting to a job. A dublin bus commuter ticket can cost €98 a month and you can't claim tax relief on that if you're not earning enough to pay tax.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » Doors thataway, gtfo ---->
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » If people on low wage jobs can't afford a car, then tough sh!t. Your not thinking logically at all.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: More assumptions, you assume that everyone on social welfare gets maximum benifits, you also assume that people pay 100 euro a month for a dublin bus commuter. I wonder how many people commute to dublin every week for a minimum wage job. That's hilarious. At the end of the day, you are completely 100% wrong. Doors thataway, gtfo ---->
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: Have you ever been on social welfare?
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » I suppose you also think people on social should sell any valuables they have since they are not needed?
Stark wrote: » I've no problem with people who've paid their stamps having basic comforts while they look for work, but I'd still consider a car to be a luxury item