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Minimum wage €1.84?

TheDublinMan

Driving up the Ballymun Road yesterday, posters everywhere stating that if Lisbon is passed minimum wage will be dropped to €1.84!!!!!!

Come on do you expect me to believe this!

What do all the fine people of After Hours think of this.

Please no long-winded drivel laden replies from tinfoil hat lovers.

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Kinetic^

In communist Ireland, Lisbon treaty kills you!

mike65

No The people who put that up are more barking than Mrs Barkings small Terrier that won the Worlds Most Barking Dog contest which by happy chance was held in Barking.

Ghost Train

Do you have any more info, whos posters are they?

ABEasy

How many cans of Dutch Gold would you get for €1.84

phasers

That would buy you 5 packets of midget gems with 9 cent left over

Irishpimpdude

Yes for lisbon lol sure the country is already ****ed.

Kinetic^

What does Paul McAdam have to say about this????????

Chinafoot

Ghost Train wrote: »

Do you have any more info, whos posters are they?

Coir. Aka: Youth Defence. Scary, scary bunch of individuals.

Red Hand

These are strange times.

Last week, I heard tell of a man who's cow gave birth to a five legged calf that spoke in a foreign tongue. Signs such as the crucifix and dragons have been seen in the sky. The sun has been eclipsed by the moon and the moon by the sun. A snake that swallowed it's own tail. Men that have risen from their graves and resumed their lives as normal.

Strange times. This Lisbon Treaty will be the end of us. Thon anom dieul!

thomond2006

Read Terry's sticky, OP.

This is anti lisbon..and as such will be probably be locked.

Don't you know boards is pro lisbon.

(but don't tell anyone :rolleyes:)

JONJO THE MISER

:mad::mad:Im sorry but im really angry about this Lisbon vote again, we voted no last time and now they rerun it until they get what they want, if we had voted yes would we have it again, not a chance in hell. I voted NO last time and ill vote NO this time, i wont be told my vote was no good last time and told to vote again:mad:.

ejmaztec

TheDublinMan wrote: »

Driving up the Ballymun Road yesterday, posters everywhere stating that if Lisbon is passed minimum wage will be dropped to €1.84!!!!!!

Come on do you expect me to believe this!

What do all the fine people of After Hours think of this.

Please no long-winded drivel laden replies from tinfoil hat lovers.

At least we won't be paying tax or PRSI on this, so we can look on the bright side.

thomond2006

SV wrote: »

This is anti lisbon..and as such will be probably be locked.

Don't you know boards is pro lisbon. (but don't tell anyone :rolleyes:)

:rolleyes:

ejmaztec

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

:mad::mad:Im sorry but im really angry about this Lisbon vote again, we voted no last time and now they rerun it until they get what they want, if we had voted yes would we have it again, not a chance in hell. I voted NO last time and ill vote NO this time, i wont be told my vote was no good last time and told to vote again:mad:.

Sorry Jonjo, but your vote was no good.

JONJO THE MISER

SV wrote: »

This is anti lisbon..and as such will be probably be locked.

Don't you know boards is pro lisbon. (but don't tell anyone :rolleyes:)

Why is boards pro Lisbon? i would of thought they would be netural. It seems all big buissness want the people to vote yes, they can screw themselves, want to drive down wages and do what they want and screw the workers, well Lisbon will be defeated again this time because us Irish people wont be taken for fools. I know of a few people who voted yes last time and now they are going to vote no because of the 2nd vote on this.

skelliser

they are coir posters.
the 1.84 is the average wage of the ascension states that joined a few years ago i.e. the eastern block countries.
Now a few years ago there was this court case called lavel, there has since been similiar ones. It was between workers and a company. The company wanted to bring in foreign workers and pay them the wage they where earning at home ie. this basically undermined the local employees wages.
The court sided with the company saying it was ok to do so cause it encouraged competition in the market.
This is where the adage "race to the bottom comes from"

now coir are saying/musing/arguing that this could happen here i.e. a company can bring in foreign workers say from eastern europe and pay them 1.84 an hour. Thus undermining our wage here.

the european court of justice ruled on this. As regards lisbon its pretty technical if this could happen, im not fully sure.

but thats the basic gist.

i dont support coir

Dankoozy

SV wrote: »

This is anti lisbon..and as such will be probably be locked.

Don't you know boards is pro lisbon.

Boards is an annoying overzealous left-wing authoritarian pro-european 'everything by the letter of the law' facebook using militant atheist city dweller with an iPhone

JONJO THE MISER

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sorry Jonjo, but your vote was no good.

:mad: Gets my Pitch fork ready:P

almostnever

I love the question mark.
Because the fact that it's a blatant lie is "hidden" *COUGH* behind the question mark.
They could equally say "Unrepetant zombies roam streets of Dublin following ratification of the Lisbon Treaty?" and then be off the hook when it doesn't happen...because there's a question mark.
Still,the people behind this rely on donations. And people must actually give them money to waste. So,whatever.

MagicMarker

Can anyone post a link to this ''lisbon'' treaty, as I know sweet fúck all about it, and I intend to vote this time around, so better know wtf I'm doing.

Dankoozy

almostnever wrote: »

I love the question mark.
"Unrepetant zombies roam streets of Dublin following ratification of the Lsibon Treaty?"

if that is likely I'm voting yes. The zombies can have Dublin, if they stray outside the pale i'll get the chainsaw out

Biggins

skelliser wrote: »

...Now a few years ago there was this court case called lavel, there has since been similiar ones. It was between workers and a company. The company wanted to bring in foreign workers and pay them the wage they where earning at home ie. this basically undermined the local employees wages.
The court sided with the company saying it was ok to do so cause it encouraged competition in the market.
This is where the adage "race to the bottom comes from"

now coir are saying/musing/arguing that this could happen here i.e. a company can bring in foreign workers say from eastern europe and pay them 1.84 an hour. Thus undermining our wage here.

The European court of justice ruled on this...

Yep, that case was well reported on at the time and the workers lost their case against the company.
The ruling still stands and is seen by the big companies pushing us (by coincidence :rolleyes: ) to vote "Yes" - because as we all know, the big companies like Ryanair all have their staffs interest at heart. :rolleyes:

Its seen by many as a backdoor route to lowering wages to stupid levels.

TriciaDelicia

SV wrote: »

This is anti lisbon..and as such will be probably be locked.

Don't you know boards is pro lisbon. (but don't tell anyone :rolleyes:)

How is it anti-Lisbon?

on another note was talking to the monster in-law yesterday so she's saying "I voted yes the last time, but this time I'm voting no because they didn't listen to me last time" :eek:I'm speechless suppressing the urge to bang her head off something, she carries on to tell me in a matter of a fact tone how "all our boys will be subscripted to a European super army"!!!!!

I'm hoping she is the only one with thoughts like this, anyone else been told crazy things by people supporting the Yes & No side?

Dankoozy

TriciaDelicia wrote: »

How is it anti-Lisbon?

on another note was talking to the monster in-law yesterday so she's saying "I voted yes the last time, but this time I'm voting no because they didn't listen to me last time" :eek:I'm speechless suppressing the urge to bang her head off something, she carries on to tell me in a matter of a fact tone how "all our boys will be subscripted to a European super army"!!!!!

I'm hoping she is the only one with thoughts like this, anyone else been told crazy things by people supporting the Yes & No side?

still this business with having every referendum twice is ridiculous. it would be worth voting no just to see Biffo try to run it a 3rd time. besides, it's only a ****ing lisbon treaty, i'm sure the Eurocrats will come up with some other treaty if they can't get this one past

mike65

Its a self explaining idiotic claim anyway - who is going to work for €1.84 when you get a fiver per hour on the dole?

marco_polo

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

:mad::mad:Im sorry but im really angry about this Lisbon vote again, we voted no last time and now they rerun it until they get what they want, if we had voted yes would we have it again, not a chance in hell. I voted NO last time and ill vote NO this time, i wont be told my vote was no good last time and told to vote again:mad:.

In a democracy your vote is good every time.

murrayp4

These posters are pretty sly. What they say is "Minimum wage €1.84?" vote No etc... notice the question mark. You can say any phrase with a question mark and get away with it, because it's a question, not a statement of fact. e.g. "Your Mother's a whore?...vote No".....not calling your mother a whore, just asking the question (who knows it may be true...:rolleyes:)

JONJO THE MISER

Biggins wrote: »

Yep, that case was well reported on at the time and the workers lost their case against the company.
The ruling still stands and is seen by the big companies pushing us (by coincidence :rolleyes: ) to vote "Yes" - because as we all know, the big companies like Ryanair all have their staffs interest at heart. :rolleyes:

Its seen by many as a backdoor route to lowering wages to stupid levels.

Yeah that sounds about right, we are bad enough here in Ireland at the moment with 430,000 Irish people on the dole and now they want to further undermind Irish workers wages:mad:. The same way as the Nice treaty where they told us that 20,000 at most Eastern European workers would come to Ireland, more like 400,000, that was okay when we had Jobs but now they want to allow companies employ people at there home country rates.

Dankoozy

mike65 wrote: »

Its a self explaining idiotic claim anyway - who is going to work for €1.84 when you get a fiver per hour on the dole?

i know i would. i'd be bored stiff on the dole