BERmad wrote: » Hello all, I am a BER assesor in Co.Monaghan there seems to be that there is not that much demand here for BERs. The attidue here is why bother? I was just wondering is this happening through out the country?
sydthebeat wrote: » it bad everywhere.... even with the huge existing housing stock theres very little happening... a few reasons: 1. the current recession and lack of credit to buy 2. the over valuation of existing housing stock restricts buying 3. the over supply of assessors into a dwindling market
SilverBER wrote: » Spot on, Syd. There is also the fact that assessments are being offered for €90 in some regions and for €85 on websites for one off units.
muffler wrote: » As some of you know Im not into this area but how in the name of Jesus, Mary and their wee donkey could an assessment be done for those figures?
legs_akimbo wrote: » And Monaghan has one of the smallest quota of registered assessors with 37 in the country.
No6 wrote: » No but do we trust them either!!!:D
mary b wrote: » So am I reading this right. There are assessors out there charging 80/90 euro per cert, including sei fee of 25 euro. leaving them with 55/65 euro for a cert. Does anybody out there actually know an assessor who is charging this and where about are they operating from. This has to be per unit of 30 or 40 apartments. When you would take travelling costs, PI insurance etc. they have to be operating at a loss. I suppose they dont have to register for VAT!
SilverBER wrote: » Speaking of forums (fora?). I joined the non members forum at berassoc last week. There was a pretty irate thread which has now been deleted. It started with a guy asking a question about the uvalue of a cavity block and finished with everyone attacking another guy who had a go at the poster. I am concerned as it seems that tensions are running high and might spill over in a nasty fashion one of these days and BER assessment might not be the thing one admits to being part of. Did anyone see this?
mary b wrote: » Legs, I totally agree. Wouldn't it be the ideal situation if all assessors would down tools until SEI formulated a reasonable pricing structure. Nothing scientific, just a base price for one off houses and a fee per square meter over a certain area. Simple. For multiple dwellings, knock a percentage off based on 5 units 10, units 15 units etc. I mean the cost of the cert is a set 25 euro, why not have a structure for the remainder of the fee. I mean, this scheme is run by a government department, where are all the accountants when you need them. If decent fees could be got for issuing these certs, this would mean more tax, more vat for the government coffers. SEI really are asleep at the wheel. If this scheme was run by a private company there would be some sort of pricing structure in place from the start. But hey, what are the chances of everyone sticking together anyway.
legs_akimbo wrote: » The admin there stated. Please also be aware that the Association is a non-profit making organisation and all committee members involved do so on a voluntary basis. I asked why it therfore cost €62.50 to join and, as an organisation that is primarily set up for furthering the aims of its association members and working to protect their interests just what successes had been achieved by the association in relation to issues that effect us all. As it would be better to be inside the tent p*****g out ........ but not if it is costing me sixty euro's, on a principle more than the outlay. It is certainly something that needs to be given some attention an organisation, with a mouthpiece and a backbone to stand up to the SEI instead of letting them ride roughshod unchallenged.
trad wrote: » I agree with the notion that prices should be set and, I do believe, can be set by SEI, a Goventment body. Here's an example. HGV Testing now run by the RSA. All tests are carried out by Independently owned test centers, yet prices are set by the Minister of Transport, so it's a question of repitation and availability not price.
trad wrote: » I agree with the notion that prices should be set and, I do believe, can be set by SEI, a Goventment body. Here's an example. HGV Testing now run by the RSA. All tests are carried out by Independently owned test centers, yet prices are set by the Minister of Transport, so it's a question of repetation and availability not price.
No6 wrote: » In fairness to the BER association legs they are doing a huge ammount of work,they are in permanent discussions with SEI and as they represent over 500 assessors they are listened too, I paid my 60 or so euros with as much trepidation as you describe but can definately say it was the best 60 euro I have spent on the entire BER system. I have had a few issues and the association has raised them with SEI for me, they have been resolved or clarified not always to my likeing but at least they have been resolved. The people involved are doing all the work on their own time the 60 euros covers only the expenses such as the running a website and CPD events. I am not by they way involved at any level with any comittees of the BER Association I am just an ordinary member. I didn't see the thread you refered to in the public area, I don't have time to look there too much to be honest but the site is moderated so if people were posting offensive or libelous postings they would be removed much the same as Boards really maybe not quite as quickly. There is a technicial section in the members area which is also very useful.
