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Michael Jackson Death discussion thread - CHAT, NOT JOKES

RonMexico

Breaking news, no other details as of yet...

EDIT: Just would like to say so long Jacko. I'm stunned.

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MagicMarker

bevan619 wrote: »

Erm... I have proof. In an interview he said it was a beautiful thing for a 44 year old man (him at the time) to share a bed with a 12 year old boy.

What is that proof of?

bevan619

Clare Bear wrote: »

Aww that actually makes me sad. I love his music. He's a messed up dude but I don't think he's a bad person (you have no proof, kids like to lie, parents of lying kids like money, leave him alone haters!:p)

Erm... I have proof. In an interview he said it was a beautiful thing for a 44 year old man (him at the time) to share a bed with a 12 year old boy.

Sharpshooter

lostexpectation wrote: »

you can't change after hours rules so sharply overnight

We can and did for this thread, if you have a problem with that inquire in Feedback, not on thread.

dimejinky99

From Lisa Marie Presley:

He Knew

"Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.

~LMP

Dudess

lostexpectation wrote: »

you can't change after hours rules so sharply overnight

I personally don't see how they can't.

ixm1980

RIP MJ. A true legend. You will be missed

MagicMarker

If there's one good thing to come out of this it's that MTV are actually playing music.

MJ top 40 is on now!

lostexpectation

it does look like this demoral injection was part of the problem

lostexpectation

you can't change after hours rules so sharply overnight

Frank Bullitt

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Some people are just f*cking idiots. Why post if you know your gonna get banned and your post deleted.

I doubt his family are taking it very well, if all his fans are grieving and shocked. Imagine his family and close friends.
So Surreal

Yeah,so true,love the sig man

partyatmygaff

Some people are just f*cking idiots. Why post if you know your gonna get banned and your post deleted.

I doubt his family are taking it very well, if all his fans are grieving and shocked. Imagine his family and close friends.
So Surreal

WIZE

Size=everything wrote: »

Police say Michael Jackson's death could be suspicious. They are currently looking for a Smooth Criminal, who could be Black or White, but he's definately Bad and Dangerous. They got fingerprints Off The Wall and they say there was a Man In The Mirror. They would like Ben and Billie Jean to come forward, but they don't Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. Police say they Don't Stop 'til they Get Enough evidence as they found

I guess you will be getting banned too so I will say bye bye now

Sharpshooter

Size=everything wrote: »

Police say Michael Jackson's death could be suspicious. They are currently looking for a Smooth Criminal, who could be Black or White, but he's definately Bad and Dangerous. They got fingerprints Off The Wall and they say there was a Man In The Mirror. They would like Ben and Billie Jean to come forward, but they don't Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. Police say they Don't Stop 'til they Get Enough evidence as they found

Banned.

dimejinky99

I'm devastated..he's the king and always will be to me..

RIP

Rockee

Very shocked by the news. A tainted genius whos music was a major influence on me as a kid. RIP MJ.

Size=everything

Police say Michael Jackson's death could be suspicious. They are currently looking for a Smooth Criminal, who could be Black or White, but he's definately Bad and Dangerous. They got fingerprints Off The Wall and they say there was a Man In The Mirror. They would like Ben and Billie Jean to come forward, but they don't Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'. Police say they Don't Stop 'til they Get Enough evidence as they found

Handsome Bob

Just saw someone called Rev Al Sharpton (sp?) on Sky News and he said something that was very true; that a lot of people are paying tribute to Jackson who before this had no time for Michael. It's sad how these sinister opportunists take advantage of times like these to boost their own public image. I mean Madonna released a statement saying how she hasn't stopped crying. I'd like to know when was the last time she actually spoke to him. Sharpton is meant to be a bit of publicity whore himself but all the same, he's bang on the money.

I forgot just how good of a singer he is. Even as a kid, he puts most of todays singers to shame with songs like ABC and I Want You Back. And what a dancer, I dare anyone to watch the video for Blame It On The Boogie and not feel compelled to bust out a few moves!

El Guapo!

Couldnt believe it when I heard the news last night. I went to his concert when I was a kid and it was brilliant. Whatever people may say about him he was still one of the greatest entertainers who ever lived and will be missed.

SeekUp

I made it! I read the entire thread!!

(And in honor of the King of Pop, attempted to learn how to moonwalk during a reading break.)

FruitLover wrote: »

You're right on cardiac arrest, but the most common meaning of 'heart attack' is a myocardial infarction, where an artery supplying the muscles of the heart becomes occluded, causing muscle death. This can then lead to cardiac arrest or arrhythmia (thank you, years of General Hospital, Casualty, ER, Scrubs and House!).

Now that is applied knowledge.

galactus

StopNotWorking wrote: »

I'd hardly consider it death. He probably died inside at 10-12. Either way it's a sad event all the same. 50 is too young.

Dudess

StopNotWorking wrote: »

I'd hardly consider it death. He probably died inside at 10-12.

Maybe so, but it's still death.

StopNotWorking

I'd hardly consider it death. He probably died inside at 10-12. Either way it's a sad event all the same. 50 is too young.

Dudess

positron wrote: »

I have to laugh (what else can I do?) at the Irish keyboard warriors who are pointing finger at MJ based on unproven allegations, while they continue to associate themselves in one form or other to a church and religious orders that in one way or other molested and crushed THOUSANDS of innocent children all over the country..!!

People rushing to call Michael Jackson a paedophile here? How surprising and unpredictable... :rolleyes:

But have such people here actually said they're catholics?

Red Sleeping Beauty

Don't know if it's been posted yet but here's another vid with Slash.
I think Jackson's miming though.

positron

Its makes it even more sad that he was probably working hard trying to stage a come back. Who knows, may be he could have turned around and become more 'normal' and accepted all over again!

I have to laugh (what else can I do?) at the Irish keyboard warriors who are pointing finger at MJ based on unproven allegations, while they continue to associate themselves in one form or other to a church and religious orders that in one way or other molested and crushed THOUSANDS of innocent children all over the country..!!

Dudess

It was apparently Luggala estate, County Wicklow.

foxy06

Heard on the news that he was living in Ireland for a while and was planning to return....obviously that will never happen. Anyone know where he was staying when he was here?

Dudess

Some eerie parallels between the king of rock n' roll and the king of pop: both unfathomably iconic, both dead so early and so suddenly, both lives took a major downward turn professionally and personally prior to their deaths, both very handsome men in their prime but whose looks were prematurely ravaged, both died of a similar cause (it would appear for now), Graceland and Neverland... so tragic. RIP Michael.

WIZE

Good. they ignored the Thread title.

I don't know why but since I heard the news yesterday I feel a sadness of Jacko's passing away . I suppose you dont miss things until they are taken away .

Sharpshooter

They are being banned from After Hours.