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Michael Jackson Death discussion thread - CHAT, NOT JOKES

RonMexico

Breaking news, no other details as of yet...

EDIT: Just would like to say so long Jacko. I'm stunned.

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Witcher

d'Oracle wrote: »

Thread title .....

Thread title isn't a person in fairness:pac:

That was put there because last nigth the mods were deleting post after post of off coulour jokes, just because this thread doesn't allow jokes doesn't mean anyone has a problem with them. I've no problem with a few jokes, but if they make accusations then they shouldn't be allowed.

jazoo

Even though he was not convicted , its STILL NOT NORMAL behavior to hang out with young boys or worse to let a man like that keep his children........just because hes a celeb . Glad to see the back of him.....Im a big music fan i dont doubt that he made a significant contribution to music . but dont put his name in the same post as John Lennon

thelordofcheese

I_am_Jebus wrote: »

Michael was an innovator when it came to his performances/entertainment. For me, that's one of the major things that sets him aside from other musical legends, some mentioned here, some not.

Michael is a legend and his music will stand the tests of time, there is no doubt about that.

Aye. thriller pretty much created what music videos as we know them today, for better or for worse that's a hell of an impact.

annabellee77

i-digress wrote: »

I think if you honestly believed that someone had molested your child you would not drop the case for money. You just wouldn't.

Exactly.

Plus you wouldn't leave your child near someone you thought would molest them (and God knows there was enough rumours so wasn't unheard of)

Personally I'm not sure, not convinced either way BUT if it was true I hold the parents of those kids as culpable, if not moreso.

If I had to put money on it I think he was a very damaged man by his upbringing and childhood and had no concept of proper behaviour around kids. Don't think it was a sexual thing at all.

Whatever the case, he was a musical genius.

Terry

Ya. Rly!

Do not post in this thread again or I will ban you.
Go to 4chan if you're looking for jokes.

WithCheesePlease

A Michael Jackson condolences thread... Really????

Quazzie

annabellee77 wrote: »

Well said. I do think you may be underestimating Elvis, but yeah musically I would put Jacko right up there beside him.

I actually like Elvis' music more than Michael Jackson as I grew up listening to Elvis records (I'm not that old just liked his music) but I think MJ has had an unbelievable influence on music.

davyjose wrote: »

Lucky for the rest of us, the legal system doesn't rely on a person's popularity. It's my opinion that Jackson was a pedophile, however much abuse you throw at me Quazzie.
Some of your posts are quite offensive to me, simply because I'm voicing an opinion contrary to yours. Cop the fùck on.

If it comes across abusive I apologize profusely, it was never meant as such. I just disagree with your statements and it wasn't meant as any kind of personal attack on you or your nature.

d'Oracle

Blay wrote: »

Nobody said there was,

Thread title .....

i-digress

I think if you honestly believed that someone had molested your child you would not drop the case for money. You just wouldn't.

I_am_Jebus

davyjose wrote: »

Lucky for the rest of us, the legal system doesn't rely on a person's popularity. It's my opinion that Jackson was a pedophile, however much abuse you throw at me Quazzie.
Some of your posts are quite offensive to me, simply because I'm voicing an opinion contrary to yours. Cop the fùck on.

You are entitled to your opinion and I won't attack that.

But at the end of the day

Your opinion - MJ was a paedophile (without any evidence)
Court of law - MJ innocent (all evidence considered).

Witcher

d'Oracle wrote: »

You dont really listen to a lot of different types of music, do you?

Oh and for the record, we are all mortal.
Everyone dies and horrible things happen to us and others.
There is absolutly nothing wrong with laughing at death or anything else.

Nobody said there was, what is wrong is making accusations about the man that have been proven false in a court of law, but the people on boards supposedly know better than the jury in the case so go figure:rolleyes:

annabellee77

thelordofcheese wrote: »

except there often is.

Good thing they settled out of court then, what with it not being about the money.......

Spot on;)

Lord Trollington

Sold out a 50 date concert run within hours...over 1 million people in total would have attended these concerts.
Over 2 million people attempted to but tickets for the concerts.
I suppose the figures speaks for themselves.
The man is a legend and will go down in Music history as one of teh biggest Artists of all time.
Yes he had his problems, but so would you if you were denied the normality of growing up.
RIP Mick.

is_that_so

Quazzie wrote: »

I honestly think you are underestimating the influence that MJ has ahd on modern pop music. I dare say he influenced more musicians than any other artist (perhaps with the exception of Stevie Wonder).

Elvis whilst great was the most prominent figure on an already runaway rock n' roll scene, and Lennon never did have a solo impact on the music scene. In them terms they both fail to match the effect MJ had on the pop music scene. He was insightful and always ahead of his peers, when it came to be inivative about music. Some thing Elvis, and perhaps a lesser extent Lennon ever did.

I am not disputing Jackson's contribution as an artist at all but I suggest you completely underestimate the influence of Elvis, especially in the late 1950s, long before the "runaway rock and roll scene". The Beatles through Lennon/McCartney helped hone the modern pop song. The later Beatles albums, notably Sergeant Pepper and The White Album, both with a lot of Lennon input tend to rank high on top albums lists and have influenced innumerable rock bands.
That said the Lennon's middle years were full of self indulgent delusions but his last album is one of his better solo efforts.

davyjose

Quazzie wrote: »

Lucky for him narrow minded keyboarded warrier posts on the internet weren't enough for a conviction.

Physical evidence couldn't do what you just claimed there.

Lucky for the rest of us, the legal system doesn't rely on a person's popularity. It's my opinion that Jackson was a pedophile, however much abuse you throw at me Quazzie.
Some of your posts are quite offensive to me, simply because I'm voicing an opinion contrary to yours. Cop the fùck on.

dr oatker

T-K-O wrote: »

Musically, he is definitely up there with Lennon and Elvis

Elvis maybe, Lennon no He was as famous as them but musically he's nowhere near Lennon

annabellee77

d'Oracle wrote: »

It mystifies me how Micheal Jackson can be an inspiration or role model to anyone.

Infact, anyone who has Micheal Jackson as a role model, is probably going to be a severely warped and dysfunctional person.

Don't think people generally would consider him a role model in the proper sense that that means, probably misuse of the expression...

murfie wrote: »

But, in my opinion there is no smoke without fire and his entire life is tainted by the child molestation accusations brought against him. I do not believe it was a case of these kids family in it for the money.

Disagree totally. Whatever the truth is, I think the families were 100% after him for the money and were in it from the start for that.

davyjose wrote: »

But if he was, it would absolutely destroy his credibility, and would certainly remove the "Legend" tag from him in my eyes. Jackson wrote and performed some great music, but he also did some very nasty things as a human being. I think for that reason, any hero worship towards him needs to be kept in check.

To call Jackson a "Legend" is to irresponsibly ignore the despicable things he did.

Nonsense. He IS legend in the music world and whethe people like him or not musically it can't be taken from him. His musical success/achievements have never been questioned even if his person has been. He is a music legend, period.

Musicians personal life (rightfully or wrongfully) has b*gger all to do with their music talent.

Quazzie wrote: »

I honestly think you are underestimating the influence that MJ has ahd on modern pop music. I dare say he influenced more musicians than any other artist (perhaps with the exception of Stevie Wonder).

Elvis whilst great was the most prominent figure on an already runaway rock n' roll scene, and Lennon never did have a solo impact on the music scene. In them terms they both fail to match the effect MJ had on the pop music scene. He was insightful and always ahead of his peers, when it came to be inivative about music. Some thing Elvis, and perhaps a lesser extent Lennon ever did.

Well said. I do think you may be underestimating Elvis, but yeah musically I would put Jacko right up there beside him.

I_am_Jebus

Quazzie wrote: »

I honestly think you are underestimating the influence that MJ has ahd on modern pop music. I dare say he influenced more musicians than any other artist (perhaps with the exception of Stevie Wonder).

Elvis whilst great was the most prominent figure on an already runaway rock n' roll scene, and Lennon never did have a solo impact on the music scene. In them terms they both fail to match the effect MJ had on the pop music scene. He was insightful and always ahead of his peers, when it came to be inivative about music. Some thing Elvis, and perhaps a lesser extent Lennon ever did.

Michael was an innovator when it came to his performances/entertainment. For me, that's one of the major things that sets him aside from other musical legends, some mentioned here, some not.

Michael is a legend and his music will stand the tests of time, there is no doubt about that.

thelordofcheese

murfie wrote: »

But, in my opinion there is no smoke without fire

except there often is.

murfie wrote: »

I do not believe it was a case of these kids family in it for the money.

Good thing they settled out of court then, what with it not being about the money.......

Quazzie

davyjose wrote: »

You keep on believing Jackson was a model citizen so. I'm not going to get into the gaping holes in the American legal system, but Jackson should have died in prison IMO.

Lucky for him narrow minded keyboarded warrier posts on the internet weren't enough for a conviction.

Physical evidence couldn't do what you just claimed there.

d'Oracle

Quazzie wrote: »

I honestly think you are underestimating the influence that MJ has ahd on modern pop music. I dare say he influenced more musicians than any other artist (perhaps with the exception of Stevie Wonder).

You dont really listen to a lot of different types of music, do you?

Oh and for the record, we are all mortal.
Everyone dies and horrible things happen to us and others.
There is absolutly nothing wrong with laughing at death or anything else.

I_am_Jebus

I don't know really, a court of law proved him innocent. That's all that matters at present in relation to those accusations.

TBH, I think Michael was 50 going on 10 and was like that most of his life (Neverland etc...)

I have no doubt that some of the stuff he said and done with children was bad judegement and stupid on his part but the impression I always got was that he was a child himself. He was his own worst enemy in my opinion but I don't believe he was paedophile/molestor.

davyjose

You keep on believing Jackson was a model citizen so. I'm not going to get into the gaping holes in the American legal system, but Jackson should have died in prison IMO.

Professey Chin

davyjose wrote: »

Oh right, innocent until buying justice proven guilty, and all that...

Any proof of this aswell?

partyatmygaff

davyjose wrote: »

But if he was, it would absolutely destroy his credibility, and would certainly remove the "Legend" tag from him in my eyes. Jackson wrote and performed some great music, but he also did some very nasty things as a human being. I think for that reason, any hero worship towards him needs to be kept in check.

To call Jackson a "Legend" is to irresponsibly ignore the despicable things he did.

Yes of course all those despicale things that the tabloids could "prove" but no one else including a criminal court could get a conviction for.

People that believe everything tabloids say make me sick.

gimme5minutes

R.I.P Michael Jackson.

Quazzie

davyjose wrote: »

To call Jackson a "Legend" is to irresponsibly ignore the despicable things he did.

davyjose wrote: »

Oh right, innocent until buying justice proven guilty, and all that...

any proof to back up them statements?

I could easily call you a pedofile and get some kid to play along to make me millions. It doesn't make it true.

davyjose

Ardent wrote: »

Any proof of this?

Oh right, innocent until buying justice proven guilty, and all that...

Quazzie

is_that_so wrote: »

They are very different but Elvis had a far greater impact on rock and music in general as did Lennon.They had much more widespread appeal and influence and both were at their peaks at a time when rock was still young. It's not surprising that their impact was greater than Jackson.

I honestly think you are underestimating the influence that MJ has ahd on modern pop music. I dare say he influenced more musicians than any other artist (perhaps with the exception of Stevie Wonder).

Elvis whilst great was the most prominent figure on an already runaway rock n' roll scene, and Lennon never did have a solo impact on the music scene. In them terms they both fail to match the effect MJ had on the pop music scene. He was insightful and always ahead of his peers, when it came to be inivative about music. Some thing Elvis, and perhaps a lesser extent Lennon ever did.

davyjose

annabellee77 wrote: »

Oh don't mind me, I was just saying that your ratonale didn't make any sense. Someone being a "legend" (elvis in your point) doesn't mean isn't/couldn't be a child molester

you said :Elvis was a legend so i dunno why you are trying to portray him as a child molester

Makes no sense.

FTR - I don't think Elvis was a child molester!!!!

But if he was, it would absolutely destroy his credibility, and would certainly remove the "Legend" tag from him in my eyes. Jackson wrote and performed some great music, but he also did some very nasty things as a human being. I think for that reason, any hero worship towards him needs to be kept in check.

To call Jackson a "Legend" is to irresponsibly ignore the despicable things he did.