hello_there_jim wrote: » and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.
spear thrower wrote: » Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands.. Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000 Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000 It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell.. Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..
hello_there_jim wrote: » every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials?
Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!
aidan24326 wrote: » I'm not aware of anyone 'overhyping' Dublin at the moment. You seem to have invented this idea yourself for the sake of attacking it.
LeoB wrote: » This is the time of year people start dubs bashing. No problem. I think people like you are just a bit jealous of what we have. We dont need people jumping on a supporters bandwagon and they should'nt anyway. They should be proud to support their own. But when they all go anti-Dublin its a bit sickening, its even more sickening when they appear on T.V and Radio.
premierstone wrote: » LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity Plenty of that around. And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there
corny wrote: » If Dublin play to their best only Kerry and Tyrone would outplay us. I'm not saying we'd beat everyone else or we're better than everyone else just no reason to fear the rest IMO.
Nalced_irl wrote: » People always do one of 2 things, decide the Dubs are sh*te, no better than the weaker teams, not a chance of winning Sam, or they decide like our lovely journalists that we are on the verge of an AI. The truth is, Dublin are a bit behind the top teams in the country. For Dublin to beat teams like Tyrone, Kerry they need to have a great day when the opposition are below par and no Dub would disagree with that. We are in the same boat as the Galways and Corks in my opinion which is below the top teams but battling to equal them. We are in a transition period now so we wont be looking to knock anyone of their perch this year but hopefully in a year or so we can get back in the mix. To say Dublin havent had a chance of winning Sam in the last 4 years is blinkered imo. Say even in the last 6 or so years, how many times have Dublin lost to the eventual champions?? Again, were simply up against better opposition but on a good day with a bit of luck it was certainly possible. Original topic anyway, are we overhyped? Absolutely and i think its a major factor in our sub par performances against top opposition. I wouldnt say that the fans or the players believe the hype but it piles pressure on the players. Remember as others have said, who is hyping us? Certainly not the fans. Few are blind to the facts but most can see we are not the best in the country by quite a margin right now. Its people looking to sell their papers etc to the biggest market in the country. So for the arguement about the hype, you are right. Just a pity every single thread about the Dubs ends in a slagging match about things that have nothing to do with the original topic. PS. think this is the longest post i ever made here! Hope its not the most non-sensicle!
keane2097 wrote: » They are lightyears ahead of the chasing pack imo and are VERY close, if not equal, to Kerry and Tyrone.
corny wrote: » :eek:
LeoB wrote: » So how mant titles have your county won this past 4 years?Yes leinster title are a fantastic achievement, its the pinacle of modern day sport - why then then pillar get the door? Most counties are envieous of what Dublin can generate even with the huge pull from other sports in and around Dublin city and county.You do realise that Dublin also has a population of over one and a half million and yet havent been in an AI since 1995 As for the Bandwagon supporters there is probably enough to say in a thread all on its own about them. Which I will start when we reach the point where we will be hearing the complaints of the loyal supporters who cant get tickets or if you want to start it, great.Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick here I thought you were suggesting that there were folks from outside of Dublin jumping on the bandwagon, I have witnessed at first hand what you are talking about having lived in Dublin for 6 years and yes it is a serious problem Its fair to say at the moment we have a chance of winning Leinster and after that a lot will depend on the day. Dublin are well capable of beating Kerry and Tyrone as are Cork. Kerry and Tyrone would fancy their chances against Dublin but take away last years collapse and Dublin are closer than most give them credit for.I would agree that Dublin ''on their day'' are a match for anyone but I doubt they are capable of beating say three top teams in sucession, which is what is ultimately required I actually think last Sunday could could have been a blessing for Dublin as the panel will have gained a lot of experience from the day. When did Dublin last field such an inexperienced team in Cship? Gilroy has a lot to work with and I think will be happy enough.Agree that it will benefit Dublin that they will be written off in some quarters but alot of the new faces I thought were dissapointing and the one who put he's hand up is unfortunately now out for the season, I do think the Dublin team needs re-building and I had hoped that Gilroy would have been told ''ok you have 3/4 years to get us to that next level, develop your own team'' but unfortunately when the going got tough last sunday who did he look to - Jason Sherlock and Ciaran Whelan. Also think Keaney would be a bigger asset to Dublin playing with the small ball - same goes for Shane Ryan.
murrayp4 wrote: » Same bull from the Hearld/FM104 types every year...blah blah blah. I remember the 2006 semi, 104 were running a competition for tickets "to go and see Dublin thrash Mayo" Good God that was sweetness.:P (what happened after, we shall not discuss...)
premierstone wrote: » Yes leinster title are a fantastic achievement, its the pinacle of modern day sport - why then then pillar get the door?
premierstone wrote: » You do realise that Dublin also has a population of over one and a half million and yet havent been in an AI since 1995
Buck_Naked wrote: » You nicely avoided the question there. Care to answer? China has a population of 1.3 Billion and yet haven't been able to win a Soccer World Cup ever. It's not as simple as just population.
thegen wrote: » I have to agree on the population thing. Do people realise how many of our country cousins make up the population of Dublin? I am not sure of the exact figure but it is a big %. Dublin are overhyped by the media not by the majority of their support.
Het-Field wrote: » People like you are the ones who give "Dublin Critical" supporters a bad name. Your "Bandwagon" comment supports this. Look at the crowds at the leage games this year. Last weekend 75,000 turned out. Kerry fans have a notorious reputation for biding their time before attending any championship game. Most counties have a bandwagon element to it. Its simply due to the size of Dublin Support which pisses others off. Dublin have no more a bandwagon fanbase then anybody else.
premierstone wrote: » You also ignored 80% of my post :rolleyes: As for the China comparison, yes you are right but the difference been the Chineese media or the world media have never touted them as potential world champions and blown their performances out of all porportion
