English Paper 2 Leaked- Keep All Discussion to this thread- DUPLICATE THREADS LOCKED

The Leaving Certificate Vocational Programme (LCVP) is a senior cycle Programme of the Department of Education & Science, designed to give a strong vocational dimension to the Leaving Certificate (established). The strong vocational focus of the LCVP is achieved by arranging Leaving Certificate subjects into Vocational Subject Groupings (see Table below) and through the provision of two additional courses of study in work preparation and enterprise, known as the Link Modules.
Candidates taking the LCVP have a unique opportunity to develop their interpersonal, vocational and technological skills. These skills are equally relevant to the needs of those preparing for further education, seeking employment or planning to start their own business.

in plain english this is what lcvp is it is an extra subject which onli a number of schools do and also requires a certain subject choice to be allowed participate in it. i know this as i do it :cool: and its a god send if you do the work your nearly guranteed 70 points to count for a lesser subject

randylonghorn

kona wrote: »

all things considered It was a poor decision. I mean it was announced at 8.30pm?? vey late in the day. This is a mess and it just highlights how badly thought out our "first class "education system is.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Plus, IF the Times was right, this didn't get reported to the SEC until after 4 p.m.

There's a real problem there ...

If this happened at 9.30 yesterday (Weds) morning, it should have been reported to the SEC by 10 a.m.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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True, but this should all have been taken into account, and in light of it the P2 should have gone ahead tomorrow.

How would you like if you had plans to go away on the weekend and your required in work out of a **** up wok did...and get no exta pay?

alan4cult

kona wrote: »

all things considered It was a poor decision. I mean it was announced at 8.30pm?? vey late in the day. This is a mess and it just highlights how badly thought out our "first class "education system is.

It will also be announced at the exam hall later this morning for those who may not know.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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Then educe the wokload fo biology. either way its making it easier

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it was a response to a post saying that everything has to be the same at the LC.

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people i dont know where you'se are getting lcvp is a different type of leaving cert. it is only a subject choice like business or construction

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Captain Morgan wrote: »

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all things considered It was a poor decision. I mean it was announced at 8.30pm?? vey late in the day. This is a mess and it just highlights how badly thought out our "first class "education system is.

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alan4cult

kona wrote: »

Then why make english easier and not say Biology! seen as were on a fairness train

Define easy then...

Knife-WREEENCH wrote: »

Ah that's all subjective though. Some people who are naturally gifted at maths find HL Maths a doddle, but may find English more difficult. There are no hardest/easiest or most/least draining subjects, it all varies from person to person.

Then why make english easier and not say Biology! seen as were on a fairness train

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kona wrote: »

LCVP and the One that most of us do.

erm sorry to disappoint you kona but lcvp is only one subject as i do it and also do the leaving cert.
i think the 2 you are looking for are lca (leaving cert. applied) and the normal one i am doing at the moment

HAPPYGIRL wrote: »

Because the students did see the paper and as a result students all over the country found out what was on it.

There was no way of containing the problem unless you kept all the students involved under exam hall arrest untill after the exam tomorrow.

I really dont see what your problem with an alternative paper is? Remember the alternative peper could just as easily have been the original paper, they are drafted at the same time.

It is upsetting for the students now because they are already under pressure but it really was the only solution.

The exam integrity must be protected. Or else we can all forget about having a fair and equitable system.

Okay you dont undestand what Im saying and im not arsed repeating.

Gavin "shels"

NADA wrote: »

What schoool did this happen in actually? Wonder was it my old one!!

Don't, please, Gav

alan4cult wrote: »

You're right
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0603/breaking71.htm
Discovered at 2:45pm

Ironic that people on here were baying for blood when infact it was them that raised the alarm.

The amount of stuff on this site that appears on the news is frightening. what happened to researchers

HAPPYGIRL

kona wrote: »

Okay IF all that happend and these students know all the paper2.

Why not just isolate the problem to this scholl by giving out a contingency paper?

Unless you actually see the paper, the rest is just rumour

Because the students did see the paper and as a result students all over the country found out what was on it.

There was no way of containing the problem unless you kept all the students involved under exam hall arrest untill after the exam tomorrow.

I really dont see what your problem with an alternative paper is? Remember the alternative peper could just as easily have been the original paper, they are drafted at the same time.

It is upsetting for the students now because they are already under pressure but it really was the only solution.

The exam integrity must be protected. Or else we can all forget about having a fair and equitable system.

KnifeWRENCH

kona wrote: »

English Paper1? Is just examining how competant you are with english, you cant really study for it.

Paper2? hard but there are more draining exams.

Heres harder exams than english, with a larger workload:
Biology, Physics, Honours Maths, Chemistry.

Ah that's all subjective though. Some people who are naturally gifted at maths find HL Maths a doddle, but may find English more difficult. There are no hardest/easiest or most/least draining subjects, it all varies from person to person.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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LCVP and the One that most of us do.

alan4cult

kona wrote: »

Ive a suspicion that Boads.ie is where they got the first sign from.

You're right
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0603/breaking71.htm
Discovered at 2:45pm

Old_-_School

Waaahhh wrote: »

He/She WON'T be allowed supervise an exam ever again, of that I am pretty much convinced!! And the thing about mistakes that makes them mistakes is that they are mostly stupid, basic, and avoidable!!

Not allowed supervise??? They should be sacked on the spot. If someone did an equivalent to that in the private sector they'd be sacked.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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well you clearly dont have fist hand experience of the mayhem so dont have a clue.

I know a girl who is ment to be a maid of honour on saturday morning, where does this mess leave her? and the wedding?

I agree that if your prepared its irrelevant and possibly a advantage, but you tell a stressed out 18 year old girl panicking that.

kona wrote: »

But you field study is 25% and is done in febuary.

True there is Too much on it but the exam is only 75%

yes it may only be 75% but iv never heard of any one getting full marks out of the 25% and what good is a pass id rather a C1 or B3 in geography and the amount of studien of this one subject is hard as there is onli roughly 20-30% (if even) of the course asked in the exam

nesf

kona wrote: »

Ive a suspicion that Boads.ie is where they got the first sign from.

The Irish Times has it at 4.30 that the SEC got word of it: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0604/1224248024920.html

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randylonghorn

kona wrote: »

its 2.05am no students are here, if they are they are ****ed.

Wanna bet?!

Take a look at the list at the bottom of this page

A number of those I recognise as LC students ... naturally enough, given the stress levels to-day.

kona wrote: »

So what if nobody agrees, do you need people to agree with you?

No, I'm well used to people disagreeing with me.

But when everyone disagrees, I have enough humility to consider the possibility I might be wrong.

kona wrote: »

I think it was a overreaction. I couldnt give a **** what people on boards.ie think

And you are absolutely entitled to your own opinion!!!

Even if it's wrong!

bull_egan wrote: »

kona wrote: »

Heres harder exams than english, with a larger workload:Biology, Physics, Honours Maths, Chemistry.

:eek::eek::eek: you totally forgot higher level geography :eek: have you seen the amount of work that is in that subject

But you field study is 25% and is done in febuary.

True there is Too much on it but the exam is only 75%