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English Paper 2 Leaked- Keep All Discussion to this thread- DUPLICATE THREADS LOCKED

English Paper 2 was leaked in Louth Today. Possibly rescheduled. More info at rte.ie/exams

UPDATE 1: The SEC has announced the exam will take place on Saturday Morning, June 6th at 9:30.

A Helpline has been set up (lord knows why tbh, mountain out of a molehill): 1800 713 913

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KokaNoodles

titan18 wrote: »

Relax, questions will be different, but the poets will be the same for the most part.

The numbers of As,Bs etc will be roughly the same as previous years, it wont hinder any of ye at all.We all complained on here after last years accounting paper, and the exam was marked very easy, I checked mine, and marks were just thrown around the place.

If this is a disaster on Saturday, it will be for everyone, so you'll be given the marks.As much as ye may hate this moment and the person who handed out the paper, nothing can be done, so study, or sleep, but forget about what happened, and ye'll all be fine on Saturday and when the results come out.

damn, that was the most relaxing comment iv heard since this whole debacle, thanks

hello_there_jim

randylonghorn wrote: »

In that case, congrats on a strong sense of humour!

id say you have anything but a long horn! rather short i would think!

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TheManWho wrote: »

Although I agree completely, your argument is somewhat undermined by the fact that you are still online, reading this thread, instead of studying

Come on, the 4th years are boozing every night they are doing this.I know its what I would do.

Amirani

IMakeNoSense wrote: »

Suuuurellly they cant change the paper THAT much!! can they?

They're not changing the paper, they're using one that was prepared at the time of the actual paper.

By the way, shouldn't we stop calling it the contingency paper at this stage?

amacachi

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

1) It's you're fault if you're not prepared for the paper.

Do well in paper 1?

Weekend Warrior

Ok, I basically cried my eyes out over this, but now I'm thinking:

1. Every English teacher in the country is fuming. If the contigency paper is a total b*tch, ie. no Keats or Walcott, there will be uproar. When they were making the back-up paper, they would have put at least 2 of the predicted ones on.

2. Same thing basically, everyone is so p*issed at the Department now that they will mark the papers dead easy. They'll want to cause as little trouble as possible.

Even your one on the news was on about the 'psychological distress' it caused to students. The correctors will be kind.

Kournikova

A big word saying TWO obviously didn't concern anyone.

thomasjad

do people have to go in tomorrow the at all in the morning?

Caliden

Fad wrote: »

What pisses me off more that ANYTHING else is the postponement, that ruins revision for HL Irish, French AND Bio!

**** paper 2

It's only taking a few hours of your time away on a saturday morning.
If you were going to study till late friday evening, its still possible. Just assign an hour to quickly look over english paper 2 after your other study.

You're talking as if the exam will take up your whole saturday

Timmyctc

TheManWho wrote: »

Although I agree completely, your argument is somewhat undermined by the fact that you are still online, reading this thread, instead of studying

too right man..

Isaac702

Frankly I couldn't care less about Comparative Studies or Macbeth. Regardless of the question that comes us on these I should be ok.
The only topic I am concerned with is Poetry. I studied 3 poets in detail and all 3 of them have come up on the primary paper. Unless one of these comes up on the backup. I am not prepared at this stage to answer a question on another poet. By Saturday I should be able to answer on another however it wont be as good an answer the ones I have done already are.

It would be nice of the examinations commission if they published examples of the differences between the primary and secondary papers.

I am still hoping that Bishop comes up on the exam. Any question on her I can answer well.

Calum196

Antamojo wrote: »

From wiki:
"County Louth is affectionately called "the Wee County" being the smallest county in Ireland."
The same can be said of the brains of its leaving cert examiners.

You do realize that examiners travel to different countys.

poisonated

I agree that the examiner should be fired.Although Im happy about it,I feel that for something this important he should have made the effort.For people doing higher level Irish for example,this completely f...s them over.Maybe he should even be sued!

IMakeNoSense

This is Soooo Stupid!!!!!
The contingency paper is gonna suck... thats why they didn't pick it the first time!!!

Longley Bishop Keats and Walcott + Banquo and Deception + Cultural Context = Orgasmic

Suuuurellly they cant change the paper THAT much!! can they?

robdrog

Blue_Rose wrote: »

The superviser looks at the envelope and signs it, then two students check its the correct paper and sign it! How did they not notice?!

They didnt want to notice!

Amirani

Seems that us at boards are responsible: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0603/breaking71.htm

Piste

ALincoln wrote: »

Ok, just an obseravtion based on some things I have read here. There is no point in blaming people from Louth, especially the students. It is not their fault that the paper was leaked to them - they certainly didn't ask for this to happen. The paper would have been cancelled regardless of whether they spread the word - from the moment the wrong paper was distributed, this exam was technically up for nullification. Regarding the supervisor - more diligent scrutiny of the paper would have been advisable, but when the error occured, he had no choice but to follow protocol. So for doing so, it's both pointless and wrong to hold him culpable.

This is an unfortunate situation, both for people who have only covered a limited number of poets, and people who covered the breadth of the course but need to use the weekend to prepare for other subjects. The only advice that can be given is that the contingency paper will probably cover the same topics, albeit from a slightly different angle.

So lads; hold it down, be smart with revision and don't lose your heads, either to panic or to fire the blame at somebody else.

I really don't think anyone's genuinely holding the students accountable. We all need a scapegoat. Might as well be the smallest county.

The Walsho

martin regan wrote: »

your a contingency paper

That post cracked me up! Out of nowhere, from someone with three posts, and with a grammatical error - brilliant.

I will pay someone to just write that in massive writing on their exam on Saturday. Just those four words. And walk out with your head held high. (like my alliteration at the end there? I reckon The Walsho might be coming up on the backup paper tbh)

Antamojo

From wiki:
"County Louth is affectionately called "the Wee County" being the smallest county in Ireland."
The same can be said of the brains of its leaving cert examiners.

Amirani

Mr.S wrote: »

Your best bet is to look over the 4 other poets that didn't come up

I disagree. If you learned 2 then just learn another 2/3. Don't bother you're self with trying to learn those that didn't come up.

randylonghorn

Greek Dude wrote: »

I guess God is Greek :P

Why, has he been molesting swans again?!

/mythology

>_>

Zonda999

Fad wrote: »

Who's for intercepting the contingency paper?

Every DHL van you see tomorrow would certainly be worth a look!:p

TheManWho

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

90% of the people in this thread sound like a whining spoilt four year old child.

Here are some simple facts:

1) It's you're fault if you're not prepared for the paper. I'm in this boat too: I've only done one poet; but, it's your own fault. If you followed what was meant of you, then you would have done four or more poets. Simple.

2) Anybody who just studies a single theme in Macbeth is stupid. So what? Deception is out of the window? Big whoop. There are a multitude of other themes and questions that can come up - and perhaps some will be better? No one knows.

3) Giving out about it in a thread isn't going to change anything. If you're so bloody worried get off your arse and go pick up your poetry book/Macbeth. You've a good few hours now to cram: do it.

For anybody asking to have it put off until a later date/to boycott paper 2/signing petitions etc. etc. etc. It won't make a difference, what they've decided is decided.

They've made the right decision, if you ask me. They had to protect the integrity of the exam: that's their main priority. Because, if the exam doesn't have integrity then, guess what, you're Leaving Cert. doesn't have integrity.

Now, stop crying over spilt milk like spoilt brats and get off ye're arses and do some study. It's pathetic.

Although I agree completely, your argument is somewhat undermined by the fact that you are still online, reading this thread, instead of studying

Blue_Rose

leesmom wrote: »

it shouldnt be left to a student to sigh that envelope it should be a teacher or prinicpal in the school the girl in my room looked half asleep she didnt even look when she was signing it

The superviser looks at the envelope and signs it, then two students check its the correct paper and sign it! How did they not notice?!

Ricky91t

titan18 wrote: »

Relax, questions will be different, but the poets will be the same for the most part.

The numbers of As,Bs etc will be roughly the same as previous years, it wont hinder any of ye at all.We all complained on here after last years accounting paper, and the exam was marked very easy, I checked mine, and marks were just thrown around the place.

If this is a disaster on Saturday, it will be for everyone, so you'll be given the marks.As much as ye may hate this moment and the person who handed out the paper, nothing can be done, so study, or sleep, but forget about what happened, and ye'll all be fine on Saturday and when the results come out.

Your proof to back that up?

ALincoln

Ok, just an obseravtion based on some things I have read here. There is no point in blaming people from Louth, especially the students. It is not their fault that the paper was leaked to them - they certainly didn't ask for this to happen. The paper would have been cancelled regardless of whether they spread the word - from the moment the wrong paper was distributed, this exam was technically up for nullification. Regarding the supervisor - more diligent scrutiny of the paper would have been advisable, but when the error occured, he had no choice but to follow protocol. So for doing so, it's both pointless and wrong to hold him culpable.

This is an unfortunate situation, both for people who have only covered a limited number of poets, and people who covered the breadth of the course but need to use the weekend to prepare for other subjects. The only advice that can be given is that the contingency paper will probably cover the same topics, albeit from a slightly different angle.

So lads; hold it down, be smart with revision and don't lose your heads, either to panic or to fire the blame at somebody else.

Calum196

Not in the leigions of horrid hell could come a devil more damned in evil to top that examiner.

Fad

Who's for intercepting the contingency paper?

hopeful_girl

Fad wrote: »

What pisses me off more that ANYTHING else is the postponement, that ruins revision for HL Irish, French AND Bio!

**** paper 2

thats what grinds my gears too

awhir

lol this must be the fastest growing thread in boards history !