Local elections

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athtrasna wrote: »

Local Issues are more important in the local elections. Which is why it annoys the hell out of me that this whole Ogunsina thing is even a story!

Are you kidding? This is the best story the gazette has had in years, they can't waste opertunities

athtrasna wrote: »

Lots of Hussain's posters on the approach to the Phoenix Park. Would like to know more about him.

As for the other candidates I'm involved in a number of community groups of different types. One candidate was verbally abusive to me at a meeting, they came over to me out of the blue and started spouting s*ite. Am hoping their canvassers come to visit!!

The others, largely I've found they don't answer emails about local issues, requests for info etc. In one case the email bounced back because the Cllr's inbox was full.

Only one councillor has been universally helpful so it's difficult to decide where to spread my preferences after that. At the same time I look forward to not voting for the abusive one, and perhaps voting tactically to reduce their chances

Well, if I can be of assistance let me know:p

Cliste wrote: »

Yea - that was me. And if I remember correctly you pointed out that local issues were more important

This sounds juicy! What have the other candidates done to turn you off them?

I actually saw posters from him up closer to the centre - I'm not sure if he knows that this side of the M50 is part of the area!

Local Issues are more important in the local elections. Which is why it annoys the hell out of me that this whole Ogunsina thing is even a story!

Lots of Hussain's posters on the approach to the Phoenix Park. Would like to know more about him.

As for the other candidates I'm involved in a number of community groups of different types. One candidate was verbally abusive to me at a meeting, they came over to me out of the blue and started spouting s*ite. Am hoping their canvassers come to visit!!

The others, largely I've found they don't answer emails about local issues, requests for info etc. In one case the email bounced back because the Cllr's inbox was full.

Only one councillor has been universally helpful so it's difficult to decide where to spread my preferences after that. At the same time I look forward to not voting for the abusive one, and perhaps voting tactically to reduce their chances

ciaran76

From the leaflet drops into my house I have noticed a few mentioning the one way road in Clonsilla.

Now I know this has been a long running issue but will it make much of a difference opening this up again?

Just out of curiosity as I dont live down near there but I avoid that place like the plague in case I get caught in traffic there. I am just wondering how much of effect opening it up will do and why did they make it one way in the 1st place?

This is not a post on saying it should stay one way or change I am just curious thats all.

athtrasna wrote: »

Any councillor/council candidate running for a political party faces questions on issues bigger than local politics. A poster on this thread earlier admitted they'd asked Eithne Loftus questions that had zero to do with D15. Adeola stated the party position. No crime there.

Yea - that was me. And if I remember correctly you pointed out that local issues were more important

athtrasna wrote: »

Saw some ads for Hussain in the local papers a while back. Might give him a preference purely as he's someone I haven't had a negative experience of so far in my time in D15, makes him one of the few candidates in the running this time!

This sounds juicy! What have the other candidates done to turn you off them?

I actually saw posters from him up closer to the centre - I'm not sure if he knows that this side of the M50 is part of the area!

Cliste wrote: »

Athrasna, I don't know the exact wording of what he said - but surely as a local election candidate this passport issue should have absolutely nothing to do with the role of a councillor (And it was both the FF and 'Iggy' who denonced his methods according to the Blanch Gazette here).

Further to the above Joe Higgins is running
And apparently Hussain, Zahid (Ind) See the story here - has anyone heard anything about him either?

That's 8 candidates anyway!

Any councillor/council candidate running for a political party faces questions on issues bigger than local politics. A poster on this thread earlier admitted they'd asked Eithne Loftus questions that had zero to do with D15. Adeola stated the party position. No crime there.

Saw some ads for Hussain in the local papers a while back. Might give him a preference purely as he's someone I haven't had a negative experience of so far in my time in D15, makes him one of the few candidates in the running this time!

daymobrew

Cliste wrote: »

And apparently Hussain, Zahid (Ind) See the story here - has anyone heard anything about him either?

I have no idea who he is.
I saw a bunch of his posters being delivered to an office beside Thai Garden this morning (I was trying to see if they are still in business because the phone has been engaged each time I ring, since last Saturday night).

Athrasna, I don't know the exact wording of what he said - but surely as a local election candidate this passport issue should have absolutely nothing to do with the role of a councillor (And it was both the FF and 'Iggy' who denonced his methods according to the Blanch Gazette here).

Cliste wrote: »

Right in the Castleknock Branch we've:

Roderic O'Gorman (Greens): Called around - clear set of policies up on the website - active
Eithne Loftus(FG): Has called around - active counciller
Charlie Maples (SF) No Website - Nothing...
Peggy Hamill (Lab) Seems to have been active - however its only at the elections I hear from her
Mags Murray (PD FF): No Website (That's the best I could find)
Howard Mahoney (FF): Haven't heard of this guy - EVER.

Further to the above Joe Higgins is running
And apparently Hussain, Zahid (Ind) See the story here - has anyone heard anything about him either?

That's 8 candidates anyway!

PauloMN

athtrasna wrote: »

It's a bad sign of the FF candidate IMO if he is focusing on tabloid-esque headline grabbing inaccuracies.

He's an independent candidate, not FF.

Thaedydal wrote: »

Is it just me or do all the FF candidate posters only have FF in very small print right at the very bottom of the poster?

http://www.communityvoice.ie/pages/CV136/CV136n11.htm

Run down on the candidates.

And that's only the FF posters that have the logo. Not all of them do!

Nevyn

Is it just me or do all the FF candidate posters only have FF in very small print right at the very bottom of the poster?

http://www.communityvoice.ie/pages/CV136/CV136n11.htm

Run down on the candidates.

Because he didn't!! He said FG were working on a policy position which would speed up the system whereby citizenship applications take years to progress leaving immigrants stuck in legal limbo re rights to work etc.

It's a bad sign of the FF candidate IMO if he is focusing on tabloid-esque headline grabbing inaccuracies.

Still wish I was in the Mulhuddart LEA though, Castleknock 6 for 4 has to be the least competitive council contest in the country!

And there's controvery in the Mulhuddart ward. Read the Open letter to Fine Gael here, where Ignatius (Iggy) Okafor is giving out that the FG candidate is promising that they would get status (and Passports) for immigrants within 6 months

(First question is why a local election candidate was saying that, second why a FGer was!)

Nevyn

daymobrew wrote: »

The MiCandidate site lists 6 candidates for Castleknock/Blanchardstown.

tbh that makes sense as it has most of the more well established areas and new canidates may not get as much of a look in even with the addition of new eastes into it ( including my own ) for the first time.

daymobrew wrote: »

Mulhuddart ward has 14!!

Where as the Mulhuddart area as a large population which is new to the area
with all the new developments so it should be more diverse in who is returned in that ward.

daymobrew

The MiCandidate site lists 6 candidates for Castleknock/Blanchardstown. Joe Higgins must be concentrating on Europe now.

Mulhuddart ward has 14!!

Zaph

Right, I've been really busy over the last few days and haven't had a chance to look at this thread until now, and what a bloody trainwreck it is. For a thread supposedly dealing with the local elections and how they affect D15, all I can see is a load of snide remarks and completely off-topic nonsense. From now on this thread is to be used for the discussion of the local elections and nothing else. Anyone who goes off-topic risks a ban from the forum.

Cliste wrote: »

Howard Mahoney (FF): Haven't heard of this guy - EVER. (Smell of Bacon:p)

Cliste, whatever issues you may have with the Gardaí, leave them out of this forum. Another comment like that and you'll be taking a break from here until after the elections.

Powerhouse wrote: »

3) The 'mod' raised the matter publicly. If there is fairness and transparency (and frankly I will be surprised if there is - I believe the mods tend to divert matters to the trademan's entrance when challenged) the inconsistency will be dealt with publicly. Let the 'mod' explain how 'useful' your snide remark about Howard Mahony was, and why it wasn't picked up on.

Given that you have such an issue with this remark, did it at any stage ever cross your mind to report it so that a mod could do something about it or were you just too busy making condescending remarks to the other posters in the thread? Mods have lives too and aren't here 24/7, so things can be missed and we rely on people reporting posts so that they can be dealt with.

It's clear that you take a strong interest in local politics, and it's not something I would ever fault someone for, but your superior attitude to just about everyone else in this thread and, by extension almost all of the rest of the voters in D15, is quite frankly appalling. You can either politely discuss the issues with other people here in a civilised manner, or you can take yourself off to somewhere like Politics.ie and get stuck into the rough and tumble there. Either way, it's no skin off my nose, but I will not tolerate other postsers being attacked or abused for being "lazy" or "ill-informed" when it comes to the elections. Everyone has a different level of interest and it's entirely up to them how much or how little they want to know. Yes, in an ideal world everyone should know a lot more about all the candidates, but that's not going to happen and I'm afraid that's something you're just going to have to live with.

Finally, if you have an issue with the moderation of this forum I would ask that you have the decency to PM the mods to discuss it first, rather than making some sweeping and vaguely offensive comment about how things are handled here. If you'd rather not do that then the Help Desk forum is the place to post in, not in the middle of a thread such as this.

And now back to your scheduled programming...

Sorry for mentioning it athrasna, it really had nothing to do with anything -

For me the big issue would be public transport - I suppose that feeds directly into the whole traffic thing (Bottom of Auburn ave, Castleknock Village - no wonder the 37/38 are late!). I think that the lights are the biggest problem for traffic..

A secondary issue is Sporting facilities, fingal has always been very good (ie getting land from the racecourse for Bridget's, and Castleknock GAA have land now(?)) This needs to be continued.

Please people, talk about the actual issues. Why is traffic in D15 getting progressively worse while traffic overall seems to be easing off?

What's the story with schools v new developments? I know kids living in Waterville who have to go to school on the Navan road!

What are the local issues?

I personally don't give a s*%t about Irish v Polish at this point in time, I care about getting to and from work, about school places for my kids, about having a safe place to live. I don't care about party affiliations either, I'm facing giving high preferences and votes to candidates from parties I could never have considered before because it's time to sort things out now! Being from FF or another big party is not enough if you do f&£k all from election to election, you get a vote in my house if you're seen to care.

LostinBlanch

I saw Ruth Coppingers flyer recently and it had information about Denis Keane who is also running for the socialists.

I read one thing in his bio which confuses me. It says he is a civil servant. I thought civil servants had to not be involved in politics as part of their contract?

Gaspode

OK folks, stick to information about the elections, not criticism or other poster's views, nor grandstanding about who knows more than everyone else.

And play nice. FINAL WARNING.

Gaspode

Powerhouse wrote: »

Does this apply only to me or is it advice for others as well?

Yes it is advice for everyone here.

Powerhouse you have breached the charter here.

Like it or not you will get an infraction.

Cliste wrote: »

I will admit that I am being unduly sceptical of Howard - I think this is a product of someone questioning why I don't know who he is.

I might add that none of the other politicians really offer no better policies (Loftus has a bit better), the only thing is that I at least 'know' them already - Howard is an unproven person (to me). Given the alternative's he's in contention for third place as it stands!

If this is a reference to me, I have never questioned why you don't know him. I have merely suggested that it was not impossible that someone with enough interest in the local elections to post here might have come across him already, but if you haven't that's fair enough.

The main thing I asked in relation to him was how you could use the phrase "he is more active than I gave him credit for". How could you have decided to give or not give credit to someone you had never heard of - that was all I was wondering.

daymobrew wrote: »

Howard does mention three aims on his About page. I'll ping him to mention the absence of more information.

I will admit that I am being unduly sceptical of Howard - I think this is a product of someone questioning why I don't know who he is.

I will have to rephrase that statement because it is not 100% true: He has used the generic good things that I would expect any politician to use, however having looked at Roderic's site he has good meaty policies that can really chewed on Roderic
Howard needs to flesh out the policies so we can really get a feel for him (I had meant to type that after what I did earlier)

I might add that none of the other politicians really offer no better policies (Loftus has a bit better), the only thing is that I at least 'know' them already - Howard is an unproven person (to me). Given the alternative's he's in contention for third place as it stands!

Cliste wrote: »

1) Well now to be fair why the hell would I know who he is - this is his first time going for election here, and I don't know the Gardai by name, don't live near Bramley, and while I do live in D15, I never heard of D15CC - which you will now go to say that I should - but then why should I?

2) I made a suggestion just before she left about the fact that I would like to see FG be a bit more pro-active in terms of the Irish language (ie having Polish on the site without any Irish is a bit insulting to me). She is also a member of FG (as well as being a current councillor) - I don't see the big problem with what I said, and it would do FG no harm at all to pull the finger out on this topic.

3) PM the Mod - or take it to the helpdesk rather then dragging the thread further away from the topic.

1) Well, he has been campaigning and holding public meetings for well over a month now. It would not be remarkable if you knew him given that you are posting in a thread on the local elections. That is not to say you should have, just that it's not quite the long shot you make out.

But of course that was not my point at all. My point was that given your complete ignorance of the man, how could you purport to know how active he was ("he's more active than I gave him credit for")? Unless 'active' is synonymous with 'known to you', which is hardly a reasonable definition.

2) Who said there was "a big problem" with what you said to Eithne? You're getting paranoid now. I just thought it was an unusual question for a local councillor that's all.

3) The 'mod' raised the matter publicly. If there is fairness and transparency (and frankly I will be surprised if there is - I believe the mods tend to divert matters to the trademan's entrance when challenged) the inconsistency will be dealt with publicly. Let the 'mod' explain how 'useful' your snide remark about Howard Mahony was, and why it wasn't picked up on.

Thaedydal wrote: »

Because you are posting in a manner which is antagonistic and snarky and that will be off putting people to may want to take part in this thread to share info and ask questions.
You are being, to put it mildly, disruptive to the thread.

Share info? People have to have info before they can share it. All that was happening here until I joined in was a few smart remarks and a lot of self-righteous claptrap about political posters and candidates.

I have not seen ONE locally important issue being discussed. All we seem to have are people who are interested in the election beacuse there are posters up at the moment and will be talking about the Galway Races or something equally topical in another couple of months.

daymobrew

Cliste wrote: »

He has outlined nothing about what he intends to do.

Howard does mention three aims on his About page. I'll ping him to mention the absence of more information.

Powerhouse wrote: »

Miniscule details? Why do you call fundamental information 'miniscule details'? We are talking about name, party and policy here - hardly miniscule details. You don't even have the basics - if, as you say, we are being honest here. So please be honest and try not to pretend that we are talking about what he had for breakfast.

Well now to be fair why the hell would I know who he is - this is his first time going for election here, and I don't know the Gardai by name, don't live near Bramley, and while I do live in D15, I never heard of D15CC - which you will now go to say that I should - but then why should I?

I'm busy enough (in some community activities, some not) why should I know these things - other causes need people too. (And not just watching tv:D)

Powerhouse wrote: »

Incidentally, what did you ask Eithne Loftus about the Irish language? I'm just wondering what you see as an appropriate role for a local councillor in relation to the Irish language.

I made a suggestion just before she left about the fact that I would like to see FG be a bit more pro-active in terms of the Irish language (ie having Polish on the site without any Irish is a bit insulting to me). She is also a member of FG (as well as being a current councillor) - I don't see the big problem with what I said, and it would do FG no harm at all to pull the finger out on this topic.

As for the role of a local councillor on the Irish language - very little really - the official languages act is taking care of what I would hope for from them.

Powerhouse wrote: »

The moderator said only "useful" stuff should be posted (whether its attempted humour or narky or whatever, or intended to be, is a different
matter) so let him/her explain why that was useful, and me asking a perfectly legitimate question as to how someone is qualified to comment on the activity of a county councillor.*

Powerhouse wrote: »

* The funny thing is that you actually dealt with this and answered it perfectly reaonably, which baffles me further as to why the moderator had an issue with the question.

PM the Mod - or take it to the helpdesk rather then dragging the thread further away from the topic.

Nevyn

Because you are posting in a manner which is antagonistic and snarky and that will be off putting people to may want to take part in this thread to share info and ask questions.
You are being, to put it mildly, disruptive to the thread.

Cliste wrote: »

My comment was meant as a humorous jibe at the fact that he is a Garda

Lets be honest here - I've only heard of the guy on this campaign, and even that is only what he has sent in his leaflets, and his website. He has outlined nothing about what he intends to do.
I'm sure you'll have to forgive me for not knowing every minuscule detail of our local politicians - I waste my time doing other things in life.

Miniscule details? Why do you call fundamental information 'miniscule details'? We are talking about name, party and policy here - hardly miniscule details. You don't even have the basics - if, as you say, we are being honest here. So please be honest and try not to pretend that we are talking about what he had for breakfast.

The moderator said only "useful" stuff should be posted (whether its attempted humour or narky or whatever, or intended to be, is a different
matter) so let him/her explain why that was useful, and me asking a perfectly legitimate question as to how someone is qualified to comment on the activity of a county councillor is apparently not so.*

Incidentally, what did you ask Eithne Loftus about the Irish language? I'm just wondering what you see as an appropriate role for a local councillor in relation to the Irish language.

* The funny thing is that you actually dealt with this and answered it perfectly reaonably, which baffles me further as to why the moderator had an issue with the question.