Degsy wrote: » How come? I've noticed a massive increase in the amount of taxes i've had to pay lately in order that people can get free money. I sympathise enormously with people who have worked for ever and suddenly find themselves redundent but there are a lot of people who are quite happy to sit back and accept the handouts untill somebody offers them the easy-going job they feel they're entitled to. There are people on here and elsewher who HAVNT been working very long,who are young and able bodied suddenly wracked with a from of lazy fatalism.."there's no jobs in IT,i'm NOT working in a pub etc" and its these,as well as the professional dole scroungers that i have a problem with. There are people talking about being on the dole for two years or more until "companies start hiring"..what sort of attitude is that? What happened to people's desire to help themselves? I've said this before but a lot of people in this country have no idea how to help themselves as they've had things too bleeding easy,school to college to a job in IT and on to the dole..no life experience and no ambition.
I've noticed a massive increase in the amount of taxes i've had to pay lately in order that people can get free money.
Confab wrote: » We've paid for our dole with PRSI contributions. It's not and has never been free. Everyone contributes to society and everyone is entitled to the safety net implied, especially in today's economy.Unemployed people pay taxes and duties. VAT, petrol, diesel, alcohol, insurance etc. There is no such thing as free money unless you happen to be a developer.
Degsy wrote: » How come?
Degsy wrote: » I've said this before but a lot of people in this country have no idea how to help themselves as they've had things too bleeding easy,school to college to a job in IT and on to the dole..no life experience and no ambition.
Minister Hanafin said that 2009 will see “an extra €2.6 billion being allocated to Social Welfare, bringing the total spend to over €19.5 billion.
seamus wrote: » If you think that sleeping, eating and smoking is a good way to spend your day, and living in a ****ty part of the city in a ****ty place and only having €200/week to spend is the definition of "great living", then off you go. Personally, actually filling my day with stuff is far more rewarding. I've done the "no job" bit - getting up at midday and cooking burger and chips, then watching TV till 8pm. It gets old after a week and you spend your entire day in mind-numbing boredom. But yes, I do think the dole is too much. It should be a series of "allowances", where the person presents receipts for their rent, medical bills and any other fixed costs, and the government looks after that. Then they get a small subsistence, say €100/week for food and clothing. Giving people a wad of cash to blow on whatever they like only serves to compound the problem in cases where the person is unemployed by choice.
scumbag007 wrote: » ... just keep your head down and die
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Ive been working since Im 16, was let go through no fault of my own a few months back. Just the place I worked lost major clients so I was let go. Now I was by no means living beyond my means when I had a job but of course I have a car loan still to pay even though I have no job. The governement does not pay my rent so basically my 200euro goes as follows: Rent 80e Loan 80e Groceries 15e Petrol 10e I am left with 20euro then to cover esb, bins and heating oil for the week, or so 80 for the month which does not cover it. I have sent out over 200 cv`s and am getting nowhere with it. How the hell can you say the dole is a great life?? People have been let go from their jobs, would you rather we were out on the street>>?? Im qualified put myself through college, and night college and Ive been spoken to like scum when I tryed to use the stamps that Ive been paying into for 10 years while I put myself through college on the side. I now get 200e a week and can barely afford to eat, and you have the gaul on you to say that its too much. I hope some day you get to have th great life of making 200e last a week and not being able to afford petrol to go to family events. You make me sick people who say the dole is too much really have no clue of what people who were let go through no fault of their own have to go through! Believe me its no fukn walk in the park. Not everybody on the dole is a scumbag living in a bloody council house smoking their life away watching fukn Jeremy Kyle thinking this is the high life. Engage yer brain before ya go posting this kinda nonsense again OP.
procure11 wrote: » You have a valid point ...but grammatically your post does not show the hardwork you have put towards college. I think you have to understand the fact that people who complain about the amount that the unemployed get in Ireland are entitiled to their opinion as well .
Johnnnybravo wrote: » Well I dont need a grammar lesson from anybody on an internet forum alright! I have to understand whatever I want to understand, I dont have to understand what you or anybody else tells me to.
procure11 wrote: » Strange you didn't reply to the last part....I am sorry if I hurt your feelings ,if you have honest concerns about how the unemployed are villified ..AH is the worst place to express it ...believe me.
listowel1 wrote: » honestly though there has to be changes in the way ppl receive dole payments!! Some people have worked 10/15 years and have been left go, while on the other side there are people who are on dole since they were 18 years old! They are gettin same dole!! some of these people should be sent out to clean streets,cut grass watever just to get them of their couch and stop laughing at ppl who worked their entire life and are being treated the same as them!
pf85 wrote: » The dole in the north is only around £50 a week (£48 I think)... I no there are gennuine people out there trying to get jobs and cant with the current climate but I think 200euro a week is too much and doesnt encourage some people to get jobs.
Frelance wrote: » I would agree, im also from the North and never realised the dole in the south was so much! On the other hand im not well versed on living in the south so maybe its comparative with what we get. I'v never been on the dole myself thankfully. Its been hard recently as i only hold a part time job which infrequently gives me hours. I would probably be better off on welfare but have been holding off as i felt if i sweated it out id be more motivated to find work. :DGot an interview on sunday so hopefully it will pay off.
Irishcrx wrote: » Am I the only one that thinks the dole is far too high in this country, why would anyone want to get a job even if there was any. I have a mate I live it and he has more bloody money than I do and I work 45 hours a week. He has his rent payed for him by the government and pays 30 euro a month himself, and then the extra 200 a week as normal and this is without lifting a finger all he does all day is sleep, eat, smoke and eat and complain about being busy if he has to walk 5 mins to the shop at some point in the next 4 hours. Do you think the government will be forced to cut the dole payments if the national debt and unemployment keeps rising?
Stark wrote: » €200 a week should only be for people who've worked in the last few years. You also have to factor in that it's 200 per week plus your accommodation costs, medical costs and education costs paid for. When you add up all the various allowances, it's a more comfortable existence than trying to get by on minimum wage. If you've been too lazy to work in the past few years, then you should be given just enough to get by on. If you want to be comfortable, go out and get a job. People who choose to live at the expense of the taxpayer instead of contributing are every bit as bad as the bankers and developers that people complain about.
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