meanmachine3 wrote: » The routes that will have no service are the 4 and 4A, 13 and 13A, 17A, 33B, all 40 services, 102, 128, 140, 142, 237, 238, 239 and 270. There will also be disruption to ten routes partly serviced by drivers and buses from the Harristown depot. These are the 37 and 37 X, the 38 and 38C, the 39 and 39X, the 41 and 41X, the 43 and the 70.
As a result, they said, the deadline for implementing all the cuts from today was unrealistic.
The following routes will have No Service 4/4a Ballymun to Blackrock/Stradbrook (Harristown - Blackrock/Stradbrook) 13/13a Ballymun to Merrion Square (Harristown - Merrion Square 17a Finglas to Kilbarrack 27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital 40a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre (40B Toberburr to City Centre, 40D Tyrrelstown to City Centre) 33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords (Only Selected serivces serve Donabate) 102.Sutton Station to Airport via Swords 128 Baldoyle to Rathmines (Clongriffin - Rathmines) 83 Finglas to Kimmage (Harristown - Kimmage) 237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock (Blanchardstown Circular via Auburn Ave) 238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown (Does not go anywhere near Tyrrelstown, Circular route via Ladyswell/Ballycoolin) 270 Blanchardstown to Dunboyne 140 Finglas to Leeson Street (St Margreats Road/Hampton Wood - Lesson Street)The following routes will have a Curtailed Service 27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield 37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown 37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield 38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown 38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown 39 Hawkins Street to Ongar 39x Ongar to UCD Belfield 41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor 41x Swords to UCD Belfield 43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park 70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
meanmachine3 wrote: » by the looks of the companies web site both sides could be in it for the long haul. strangely enough the 27B is not metioned at all. they have a list with no services and a list with curtailed services
meanmachine3 wrote: » the following was posted in another thread by one of our colleagues "In this letter Mr Maguire confirmed that the company would be utilising the current agreed Schedules Negotation procedures Up to and Including the Schedules Tribunal. So thefore realistically the company is in no position to impliment any more than a few minor withdrawals next Sunday. The largest problems appear to exist at locations where some Senior Managers have decided to "Get stuck In" by insisting that the new bills are starting in toto on the 26th."
meanmachine3 wrote: » the 128 problem is basically a new schedule being introduced
BC wrote: » What exactly is the issue with this? As far as I can see (as a 128 bus user) there is very little change in the timetable, so what exactly is the drivers issue?
ecom wrote: » regardless of who is in the right or wrong here, if this was an official strike then fair enough, however as it is an unofficial strike by people simply refusing to work (no matter what way you look at it) then they should be suspended without pay or fired. This may yet happen. In my industry if I decided one day I dont fancy working then I would be reprimanded. And rightly so. [EDIT] I just want to add to this that I dont wish for anyone to lose their jobs, especially in these times of rising unemployment. What would be preferable is if these drivers went down the proper route to highlight their concerns. The fact that they haven't and are holding a city to ransom, to me calls for the need for strong leadership in dealing with the actions of these people.[/EDIT]
dub_commuter wrote: » At the moment on the 128 route, the journey is estimated as taking a set time, and normally there will be a little bit of time inbetween when it is expected to arrive, and it's next departure for another service, this has been cut so now if a bus is late, it is much more likely to be late on the next journey, and it goes on and on and gets later and later.
MiniD wrote: » Some would argue the running time for the 128 was a bit too generous. Perhaps reduced running time makes sense and one less bus is required. Traffic in Dublin has got a lot lighter in the last year, another poster described of having to wait up to 15 minutes for a driver changeover. Does anybody know why Clontarf depot is now on strike?
MiniD wrote: » Does anybody know why Clontarf depot is now on strike?
Sebastian Swift Meteor wrote: » Heard on RTE news this morning that the Gardaí have advised that all inbound bus lanes are suspended until 10am today to alleviate congestion due to extra traffic...
dub_commuter wrote: » Reduced journey time from one terminus to another, the timetable is practically the same, but will be operated with one less bus, so if there is a delay on a service, it makes it very likely that the rest of the services operated by that driver for the day will get progressively later as their shift continues, which could result in "Extraordinary Late Running", where a bus is canceled in order to get things running to timetable again, so they have one service which may not run, in order to make the rest on time rather than having every service the bus operates running late. At the moment on the 128 route, the journey is estimated as taking a set time, and normally there will be a little bit of time inbetween when it is expected to arrive, and it's next departure for another service, this has been cut so now if a bus is late, it is much more likely to be late on the next journey, and it goes on and on and gets later and later.
dub_commuter wrote: » That would all be very well, there are some outside peak services like ths - this is not the argument The duty in question being withdrawn is a PEAK duty vehicle, when there are not these 15 minute gaps and it will create issues. Off-peak I totally agree with you that there can be reductions in journey times for the reasons you state, and this is not being disputed, the peak, is however.
KC61 wrote: » Indeed...but it would appear that the 128 is a route where the running time could in fact be cut back - if judging from my own observations of the time buses spent parked between journeys at the southern terminus is anything to go by. It's all very well to say that delays "might happen". However, how likely is there to be an excessive delay? Delays can happen to any route, but there has to be a balance struck in coming up with a schedule that will deliver the most reliable service while maximising driving time. If buses are waiting for significant periods of time at a terminus between journeys (such as the 48A which frequently in the off-peak has over 30 minutes waiting!!!), then there is scope for change. At the end of the day, the service needs to be operated in the most efficient manner possible, while delivering a reliable service. Resolving this dispute needs to be the focus now and descending into a blame game on either side is not going to do that.
angel01 wrote: » Just been on the dublin bus site, most of the time it doesn't load or I can't seem to look for the bus route timetable that I need, dreadfully designed site. They should be putting up what time buses are cancelled :rolleyes:
