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BBC Formula 1 coverage

smooch71

BBC have impressed me already with their interactive service this morning.

Turned it on to see 2 classis Australian GPs, 1986 and 1994.

They broadcasted them as their old Grand Prix programme, that music really sends a shiver up the spine when it's played over the old intro.

Can't believe how much Steve Rider has aged though.

I could have spent the day looking at it but had to go to work.

I have a good feeling about this, James Allen will soon be a distant bad memory, and sorry Setanta, it looks like you haven't a hope of competing.

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Slutmonkey57b

One problem that the BBC has is with their website - The links on the left hand side of the page need to be expanded and improved so you can go back to earlier stories - there's no headline section for the individual blogs, or video/Audio, or special features. Effectively, all you've got is the front page, and once an item goes off that front page, it's lost.

IM0

Coverage and interviews and banter between Eddie and DC, great, and Brundle? Dream team really...but then along comes the new knob to spoil it all...:(
where do I start...his amateurism and canned anxiety and excitement...you can see he comes from radio...someone needs to tell him we CAN see whats happening! after Quali I Switched over to it on Setanta (much better) he made me cringe so much...maybe Ill go back mid-season? - NOT! :P. Then theres his accent, just doesnt do it for me really, sounds like he should be rodgering Victoria out on the Abbey...like Leslie Philips or something, too swarve. Never thought Id say it...bring back JAMES! (but dont cause then he wont do his blog!)

Setanta is for the initiated and BBC/UTV for the uninnitiated (much more driver stats rather than actual race tactical commentary which is what I want to hear about) when they ban refuelling then Ill switch...maybe?

Fire the Noob (pronounced knob too) but who else is there? just watch it on Setanta....actually no dont, cause then there will be lots more commercials
so yeah stick with the Beeb its great..really :pac:

smooch71

me@ucd wrote: »

Coverage and interviews and banter between Eddie and DC, great, and Brundle? Dream team really...but then along comes the new knob to spoil it all...:(
where do I start...his amateurism and canned anxiety and excitement...you can see he comes from radio...someone needs to tell him we CAN see whats happening! after Quali I Switched over to it on Setanta (much better) he made me cringe so much...maybe Ill go back mid-season? - NOT! :P. Then theres his accent, just doesnt do it for me really, sounds like he should be rodgering Victoria out on the Abbey...like Leslie Philips or something, too swarve. Never thought Id say it...bring back JAMES! (but dont cause then he wont do his blog!)

Setanta is for the initiated and BBC/UTV for the uninnitiated (much more driver stats rather than actual race tactical commentary which is what I want to hear about) when they ban refuelling then Ill switch...maybe?

Fire the Noob (pronounced knob too) but who else is there? just watch it on Setanta....actually no dont, cause then there will be lots more commercials
so yeah stick with the Beeb its great..really :pac:

Sorry, but you're talking sh1te

Bring back James? Spare me...

Carroller16

Yeah I actually think the noob is good

muckwarrior

Haven't really formed an opinion on him yet. He doesn't strike me as being either particularly bad or good.

IM0

smooch71 wrote: »

Sorry, but you're talking sh1te

Bring back James? Spare me...

Believe me, I use to SLATE/HATE? James too, but since reading his blog (which is class) Ive come round 180 on my opinion of him. I realised that it wasnt james who was commontating, it was what ITV wanted him to sound like..ie sh1te as you say, yes he was muck on ITV...but because he was commontating for an uninformed audience, you do realise if they only put on F1 for the real followers like us, there would be no Tv coverage dont you?

James is super informed and now without ties to ITV he has 'artistic' licence to show what he knows, and not hide it for to make the racing more interesting (as he did on ITV). Which would you rather a knob (beeb now) or an informed knob

smooch71

me@ucd wrote: »

Believe me, I use to SLATE/HATE? James too, but since reading his blog (which is class) Ive come round 180 on my opinion of him. I realised that it wasnt james who was commontating, it was what ITV wanted him to sound like..ie sh1te as you say, yes he was muck on ITV...but because he was commontating for an uninformed audience, you do realise if they only put on F1 for the real followers like us, there would be no Tv coverage dont you?

James is super informed and now without ties to ITV he has 'artistic' licence to show what he knows, and not hide it for to make the racing more interesting (as he did on ITV). Which would you rather a knob (beeb now) or an informed knob

I don't dispute Allen's knowledge of the sport. What I found sickening was his blatant ar$e licking of the Hamiltons. As a commentator he was the most biased, unprofessonial person I've ever heard. He was pathetic. I don't accept "ITV made him do it", at least Brundle remained impartial and still is.

I really don't know what you're getting at when you say Allen hid his knowledge to make the racing more interesting, it doesn't make sense.How does hero worship of Hamilton make the race more interesting? If Allen had taken the time to mention the other 19 drivers on the grid, then that might have made it more appealing.

To be honest I can tolerate Legard because I think Brundle is second to none, and to answer your question, yes, I would rather listen to the "knob" as you call him then suffer that prat James Allen.

Slutmonkey57b

Legard was deeply, deeply irritating this week.

If he doesn't stop talking over Brundle I don't know what we're going to do. He's clearly too used to being the "lead" commentator, and he does know his stuff, but the producer needs to reign him in and tell him to share the mike.

lovinit

Have to agree about legard, I prefer to hear what Brundle has to say anyway

vectra

LIGHTNING wrote: »

it was almost worth muting the sound and making car noises youself.

I second that

He is one pain in the Ar$e

enzo7

i third that:D, i remember one time he commenting on how it was strange ralf schumacher called his son david considering he was german, didnt dawn on him that calling ur english son enzo was stranger

. i know my username is enzo but i wouldnt actually call one of my kids it.

did anyone else find dc on the grid walk annoying.

smooch71

enzo7 wrote: »

did anyone else find dc on the grid walk annoying.

YES!

He was brutal. I hope BBC aren't trying to shake things up to be different. Brundles grid walk is always a highlight, they should leave well enough alone.

ro_chez

And you cant forget his reaction to Buttons first win in Hungary a few years back, I'm in work so I cant find a utube link for it, but christ!

EDIT: Here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wif3Kr0y5js&feature=related

smooch71

Does anyone else get the impression that David Coulthard can't stand Eddie Jordan?

rua1972

yes, Eddie said something about :that's why you (DC) never drove for me. DC's reply :look what it would have brought me

vectra

smooch71 wrote: »

Does anyone else get the impression that David Coulthard can't stand Eddie Jordan?

Does anyone get the impression Coulthard doesnt like anyone

cherryghost

smooch71 wrote: »

Does anyone else get the impression that David Coulthard can't stand Eddie Jordan?

Does anyone get the impression that Eddie Jordan is a bit more aggressive in his comments, kinda reminds me of the soccer panel on RTE :P far better entertainment

EvilMonkey

cherryghost wrote: »

Does anyone get the impression that Eddie Jordan is a bit more aggressive in his comments, kinda reminds me of the soccer panel on RTE :P far better entertainment

Yeah Eddie is not afraid of pissing anyone off, still annoying sometimes though.

vectra

EvilMonkey wrote: »

Yeah Eddie is not afraid of pissing anyone off, still annoying sometimes though.

Yeah
and being stupid like saying Sutil was on a hot lap and didnt need to get out of Webbers way :rolleyes:

lovinit

I think Eddie Jordan is brilliant:), never liked Coulthard anyway and as for the soccer panel as least they say what should be said unlike the BBC, goin completely off topic here but apres match do a brilliant impersonation of all the soccer panels on BBC, ITV and RTE its called channel hopping and really makes you think about how good the panel is.

smooch71

vectra wrote: »

Yeah
and being stupid like saying Sutil was on a hot lap and didnt need to get out of Webbers way :rolleyes:

Coulthard nearly had him by the throat after that one!

dazman2250

As a commentator eddie jordan is useless, he's a total waffler,he reminds me of bono or somebody constantly trying to sound enciteful and knowlegable but in reality he really doesnt know jack! Mike Gascoigne on the other hand was exceptionally clued in to the goings on in the race the other week however.

cherryghost

enzo7

eddie jordan is a twat he always was!!! was never a fan of coulthard but ive a new found respect for the guy for putting up with e.j. but it would still be great if the bbc got rid of both of them and just had gascoyne.

Biro

BBC coverage is absolutely brilliant, with one major flaw. Eddie Jordan needs to go. His interviews are embarrasingly uncomfortable to watch, and he comes out with off the wall statements that Coulthard has to correct him on. Any time Coulthard has said "I don't agree with Eddie on that..." it turned out that Eddie was indeed wrong.

EvilMonkey

enzo7 wrote: »

eddie jordan is a twat he always was!!! was never a fan of coulthard but ive a new found respect for the guy for putting up with e.j. but it would still be great if the bbc got rid of both of them and just had gascoyne.

Never going to happen Gascoyne is looking to get a job at Ferrari or some other team.

enzo7

oh i know we will prob be stuck with the 2 guys, and gascoyne has no desire for a fulltime tv job. but i can dream shur!

Slutmonkey57b

The problem with having a guy like Gascoyne on the show is that it provides great insight but also reminds you that F1 is 90% a technical exercise and that takes a lot of the fun out of it, not least for those who like to pretend drivers are important.

I like the Jordan/Coulthard/Humphrey team, some random off the wall statements from Jordan are amusing, and the "chemistry" between him and DC is a good example of how F1 really is - bickering, contradictions, arm-flailing wild exaggeration, concealed disdain, the whole lot.

Oblomov

As SM57B said:
but also reminds you that F1 is 90% a technical exercise

But, that's what a lot of people don't even realise.

Joneser

I actually like having EJ there, kinda reminds me of all the mistakes Murray Walker used to make :P

btw, Ive decided to make and F1 blog aswell, only reviews of the previous races there atm but going to expand on it tomorow, please check it out and let me know what you think

http://joneser-f1now.blogspot.com/