Allah Hu Akbar wrote: » Why do so many people have a problem with people protesting against capitilsm?
Biggins wrote: » Certain details are being help back by guess who ...the police! Usual reasons given! Might effect any outcomes of any possible investigations, bla, bla... BBC news link: here Apparently on the video footage, the cop that shoved him walked away leaving him on the ground. He was then left to bystanders to care for him and get help.
seanybiker wrote: » meh one whinger outta the way. Few more to collapse and ill bust meself laughing.
andrew wrote: » edit: The video below is the one i'm talking about here. The guy was camly strolling down the street in front of protesters. All the while, police in riot gear with attack dogs are baring down on him. Does he move out of the way? Quicken his pace even? No. He just strolled along, right until the police were near him. To me it looks as though he way trying to impede their progress or something, in a kind of (and i know this is making a giant inferrence) 'I don't care whats happening, I'm just gonna walk right through here and get in the police's way because I have a right to be here, screw yis' kinda way. If that was me I'd have gotten there ASAP. IMO he deserved to get a smack and be pushed out of the way, and he should've seen it coming. That's not to say it's not a shame he's dead. But since when does being pushed to the ground = heart attack?
Cianos wrote: » Because it's a lot easier to just make idiotic and tasteless comments like this;
nitrogen wrote: » Thugs would more accurately portray these people. And as others have said, it's more or less the same crowd of useless hippies that also show up at environment and animal-rights protests. I think that's why most have a problem.
seanybiker wrote: » dont be calling me an idiot girl. Im allowed have my opinion as women like yourself are. Internet tough girl. Ha ha. Would love to bump into you.
Cianos wrote: » Or would you prefer to see more of them die so you can have a laugh?
Goose81 wrote: » Are you actaully saying this guy would have had the heart attack anyway? He had the heart attack because he was shocked from being assaulted by a police officer.
seanybiker wrote: » Well they do say laughter is the best medicine so I suppose one or two more hippies keeling over could suffice.
Cianos wrote: » And I suppose you'll be trolling their funerals too? What is it about protesting that turns your stomach so much?
seanybiker wrote: » They just wreck me bulb. Their not gonna get anything by standing around bitching. I suppose Im just so used to seeing taxi drivers protesting everytime someone farts, I just go against every protester.
Cianos wrote: » What about the hippies and thugs who's protests gave Ireland independence? Would you rather people let themselves be heard about things they are not happy about, or just sit back and take it and bitch about it down the pub?
seanybiker wrote: » Oh christ how did I not see Irish independence not coming up in this. To be honest I couldnt give a fiddlers about what they done and how they are "heroes". Any time anyone brings them up in pub or anywhere I just ignore it and talk about something else cos it bores me. So no offence to you but I'm not even gonna go on about them. Ill just leave the thread get back on track about some dead dude instead of the old reliable ,sure the irish done this debate. Woo jeremy kyle repeat on utv now. Im just gonna watch that incase someone decides to slap the little gee bag.
Ian Tomlinson, the man who died at last week's G20 protests in London, was attacked from behind and thrown to the ground by a baton-wielding police officer in riot gear, dramatic footage obtained by the Guardian shows. Moments after the assault on Tomlinson was captured on video, he suffered a heart attack and died.
IIMII wrote: » Wow. That's serious, what the hell were they at?! The poor unfortunate was a newspaper seller on the way home from work
Nodin wrote: » http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/ian-tomlinson-g20-death-video One would have thought they'd have the sense to own up straight off, after the De Menzes debacle.
Fozzie Bear wrote: » Attacked (...........) around with friends or brothers/sisters.
Fozzie Bear wrote: » Attacked from behind???? Death video???? Jesus wept.....The Guardian, sensationalise much do we??? It showed the video on the news last night. The dude in question was being a smart arse and walking very slowing in front of about 20 cops and two dogs with their handlers. If it were you or me we would have bloody well moved and quickly if 20 odd cops in riot gear were standing behind you with a wall of baying hippy loons directly in front of you. But our man dawdled along and got shoved (hard) in the back by a cop out of the way. He was flung forward and fell to the ground from where he started shouting at the cops. He knew what he was doing and in my opinion deservedly got pushed out of the way for it. No doubt the cop who pushed him will be pillared and face months of investigations and lefty twats calling for him to be sacked, independent investigations, police reform, blah blah blah. Its a shame the dude lost his life, but the cop who shoved him out of the way can hardly be blamed. All he did was push him in the back. No more no less. We have all done it to someone at some stage or other in our lives be in the school yard, on a sports field or horsing around with friends or brothers/sisters.
Fozzie Bear wrote: » All he did was push him in the back.
Fozzie Bear wrote: » Its a shame the dude lost his life, but the cop who shoved him out of the way can hardly be blamed. All he did was push him in the back. No more no less. We have all done it to someone at some stage or other in our lives be in the school yard, on a sports field or horsing around with friends or brothers/sisters.
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