noodler wrote: » The robots at the end were horrible and ruined a serious conclusion for me. We hardly needed the terminator message rammed home anymore did we? Anyway, a quick search shows plenty of people found the last robot scenes far too cheesy.
fguihen wrote: » 1. why did Lee just so easily accept Kara just "vanished" due to divine intervention? its not like him. also, why did he just let his dad disappear forever? i guess it was to give it a tragic ending, which it most certainly did.
2. they say the child was the missing link, and dna from her skelliton is found in all of us today. but what about the rest of the colony? their dna is slightly different from Hera's, but are we to assume they just didnt mate with any natives, or they didnt have any offspring? i mean there were 30-40 thousand survivors. surely some of their colonies around the globe thrived and this would give huge genetic varation, visible even today. or is this actualy visible in our genes today ( is european or asian genome subtly different from that derived in africa, or did we all originate in africa)? just wondering how it ties in with reality.
3. I dont see the point of the visions anymore. that opera house vision didnt make a whole lot of sense now that we see all they had to do was get hera back, so she could eventually propogate with primitive earthlings.
pug_ wrote: » On the whole 'it doesn't like to be called God' thing. Maybe they were hinting that the god was really some kind of uber cylon? Could be that we're all part of some matrix style virtual reality explaining how events are so easily controlled. Or we're all descended from a much much older cylon race and some of the genetic markers allows us to see angels at 'gods' will? Or something else along those lines.
Overheal wrote: » Oh well, if the internet says it, then I retract my opinion and also find it cheesy :rolleyes: It wasn't just about the robots it had a lot to say about human nature. On the robots note, last week marked a major milestone for the coming doom when a completely autonomous UAV made a human kill.http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25656&Itemid=128 so clearly despite Terminator being a shiny warning to humanity since the 80s, we still aren't listening. So I agree with Moore on the reiteration of the point.
Derek Coleman wrote: » Ha! Surely you can't be serious. How can you get your explanation from the line "It doesn't like that name". Thats some LEAP. Listen to Baltars speech to Cavil. "God is a force of nature". Sorry, but I'll get all Vulcan on you and believe that the Logical explanation is that its a supreme being and is not just Christianity's GOD. And the word "it" doesn't give God a sexuality so its man or woman or whatever. You see it doesn't offend or exclude anyone. p.s. Six says "That too is in Gods Plan" ....... maybe its the name PLAN it doesn't like?
her mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is now found in all living humans: every mtDNA in every living person is derived from hers.
The human race was divided into two separate groups within Africa for as much as half of its existence, says a Tel Aviv University mathematician. Climate change, reduction in populations and harsh conditions may have caused and maintained the separation.
pug_ wrote: » So essentially the importance of Hera is that we're all literally descended from her in some way.
ixoy wrote: » But that would mean she had to have lots of kids with lots of different people in order to provide a gene pool from which we descended. Surely it makes more sense for there to be a wider base to choose from, such as the mating between the surviving BSG crew and the "good" Cylons.
To find the Mitochondrial Eve of all living humans, one can start by tracing a line from every individual to his/her mother, then continue those lines from each of those mothers to their mothers and so on, effectively tracing a family tree backward in time based purely on mitochondrial lineages. Going back through time these mitochondrial lineages will converge when two or more women have the same mother. The further back in time one goes, the fewer mitochondrial ancestors of living humans there will be. Eventually only one is left, and this one is the most recent common matrilineal ancestor of all humans alive today, i.e. Mitochondrial Eve. It is possible to draw the same matrilineal tree forward in time by starting with all human female contemporaries of Mitochondrial Eve. Some of these women may have died childless. Others left only male children. For the rest who became mothers with at least one daughter, one can trace a line forward in time connecting them to their daughter(s). As the forward lineages progress in time, more and more lineage lines become extinct, as the last female in a line dies childless or leaves no female children. Eventually, only one single lineage remains, which includes all mothers, and in the next generation, all people, and hence all people alive today.
Misconception: Mitochrondrial Eve was the only woman alive at that time Allan Wilson's naming Mitochondrial Eve[3] after Eve of the Genesis creation story has led to some misunderstandings among the general public. A common misconception is that Mitochondrial Eve was the only living human female of her time. Had this been the case, humanity would have long since become extinct due to an extreme example of a population bottleneck.[citation needed] Indeed, not only were many women alive at the same time as Mitochondrial Eve but many of them have living descendants through their sons. While the mtDNA of these women is gone, their Nuclear genes are present in today's population.[4] What distinguishes Mitochondrial Eve (and her matrilineal ancestors) from all her female contemporaries is that she has a purely matrilineal line of descent to all humans alive today, whereas all her female contemporaries with descendants alive today have at least one male in every line of descent. Because mitochondrial DNA is only passed through matrilineal descent, all humans alive today have mitochondrial DNA that is traceable back to Mitochondrial Eve. Furthermore, it can be shown that every female contemporary of Mitochondrial Eve either has no living descendant today or is an ancestor to all living people. Starting with 'the' MRCA at around 3,000 years ago, one can trace all ancestors of the MRCA backward in time. At every ancestral generation, more and more ancestors (via both paternal and maternal lines) of MRCA are found. These ancestors are by definition also common ancestors of all living people. Eventually, there will be a point in past where all humans can be divided into two groups: those who left no descendants today and those who are common ancestors of all living humans today. This point in time is termed the identical ancestors point and is estimated to be between 5,000 and 15,000 years ago. Since Mitochondrial Eve is estimated to have lived more than hundred thousand years before the identical ancestors point, every woman contemporary to her is either not an ancestor of any living people, or a common ancestor of all living people.[1][5]
degrassinoel wrote: » i think what the writers were getting at were the numbers, 38,000 humans, and how many skinjobs? one skinjob and one human managed to have a mixed race child, if they are compatible with each other, as hera is proof of that, then so are the rest of teh skinjobs and the 38k humans, plus, they are or would have been geneticly compatible with the indigeonous population, lots of ridin' 150,000 years later - baddabing
