Dozyart wrote: » Get off you fcuking high horses.....If your unlucky enough to end up on the dole over the next few months then post back tell us it is still way too high!!!Cant see it happening when the esb,phone and heating oil(etc) bills land in your door!!!!:mad:
kraggy wrote: » I sympathise with them but as stated in point one, of those, the ones with mortgages should be getting significantly more than those with no such responsibility (the former should get more than 200 euro and the latter should get less than 200 and the long-term unemployed should get less again).
Bluetonic wrote: » Yeah and people with car loans should get more too. Jesus wept. :rolleyes:
Mr Ed wrote: » I though it was a bit odd for it to be increase in the last budget all things considered.
kraggy wrote: » I DO realise that there are thousands of people who have just been laid off and who would rather be working. I sympathise with them but as stated in point one, of those, the ones with mortgages should be getting significantly more than those with no such responsibility (the former should get more than 200 euro and the latter should get less than 200 and the long-term unemployed should get less again).
robinph wrote: » Why should the state be giving extra money to fund someones investment in a house? Having a roof over your head is an essential requirement, owning your own house is a luxury purchase though.
brennaldo wrote: » it fuc*in is to much, i hate the way everybody on the dole gets paid for doin nothing and then complains when having to do something, i know someone who is on it and moans everyday at the fact that he's so much to do and also complains about having to go and collect his money,
Notorious wrote: » A mate of mine just dropped out of college and went on the dole. He now gets €200 a week to do nothing, until he goes back to college next September. I work and go to college, and I'm always flat out broke cos of bills. With the recession, the hours in all my jobs have been slashed so I get very few hours a week and haven't had any luck with a new job. It just seems unfair that someone can sponge off the government so easily, and spend their day doing nothing at all.
carrieb wrote: » It is far too much!! 800 euro a month for doing FA. I am living in Italy at the moment and 800-1000 euro per month is considered good money. I was in a language class one day, full of people from all over the world, inc a lot of Europeans and the whole class sat with their mouths open when I explained how it works. None of them could believe it, there were ppl from Switzerland, Holland, Sweeden, Central America, the US, none had ever heard of such a concept. I know a girl who was on the dole for over a year recently, shes lives at home and has no car so was loaded with the 200 per month. Had more the enough to live and save!! She has a degree though and was finally made go to some interviews by FAS and got a job in a week. People like that drive me mad. It should def be tested, a 20 yr old living at home who is just lazy does not deserve for 1 second to get what a 55 yr old father of 3 who has just lost his job is entitled to. Makes my blood boil!
CDfm wrote: » THen you have the whole cost of social welfare payments -like it or not the real value of our unemployment benefit will have to drop big time as the cost to ordinary people in their taxes makes it too high to sustain.
Addisyn Obnoxious Ice-skate wrote: » If someone is on social welfare then they have payed enough taxes to be on it. You have to work two years to get it. Regardless of what you say, the majority of people on social welfare are entitled to it, they paid their dues by paying taxes in the previous years. Age has nothing to do with it and is discrimination. Someone that lives at home would have to be means tested. Whoever lives in that house. Are we not ordinary people too???
Fred83 wrote: » the college grant system is s#ite too notorious,seems to favour the rich/well off,the people that really need it dont get the grant
cork45 wrote: » I think it is people in low skilled/low payed lobs say the dole is to much. Personally I think the dole should only last for 8 weeks and at that point the person should be back at work or given the opportunity to learn a new skill. Nobody should be paid to sit at home doing nothing.
Breaktown wrote: » I wouldn't have been able to go to college without the grant. And I know lots of people like myself who deserved it and got it. Will jobs magically appear after 8 weeks? I'm desperately trying to find something for months but there's just nothing there! And what good would a new skill do? I have a degree and I still can't get anything.
CDfm wrote: » Too right Mary - we are paying higher welfare than the country can afford. Lets borrow 50 billion and pay yer woman. Ya roight.
maninasia wrote: » Any reasonable country would check how much assets you have and means-test your income and take into account how much PRSI you have paid, no matter your background, it's the only fair way. When the part contributed by PRSI is used up the means test portion comes in...check your bank accounts, property, stocks , income over previous 5 years etc.
CDfm wrote: » You seem to believe others should pay for you.Austrailia have similar demographics to Ireland and operate a loan system. Whats your degree in and what type of job are you looking for? Would you work in a shop or chipper if thats what it took to get you off the dole? IMO -its those in low paid jobs without degrees who should complain and be anti-student welfare. There are 25% of the adults of the country that are illiterate and their taxes have paid for your education.If you wont just take any job to get off the dole its disrespectfull to them.
taram wrote: » Uh,where are you getting the 25% of the adults being illiterate? That'd bring us in line with places like war torn african countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_literacy_map_UNHD_2007_2008.png And I'm one of those very recent graduates who without a loan would have struggled even more in college, have been working since I was 16, and still am, though there's very few jobs, am only working 12 hours a week now, and have no choice but to stick it out as there's nothing else around. I'm heading to the UK for postgrad, will have to get a sizeable loan, but thankfully that'll be all the debt I'm carrying due to our grants.
