phantom_lord wrote: » before i was born :pac: i can't claim to know much about that era, but that wasn't really his fault was it? and he's hands were tied by being in coalition with a bunch of those bearded types?
dSTAR wrote: » Quite possibly. But book knowledge and practical experience / pragmatism are two very different things.
K-9 wrote: » And this isn't Cowens? He was the stereotypical intellectual.
dSTAR wrote: » Asking Fitzgerald (or Haughey) to come back to run the country would be like asking my granma to enter the Miss World competition. Shes dead btw. They came from very different eras and the world we are in now is very different to the world in which they were running the country.
junkyard wrote: » I just watched the nine o'clock and there I saw Garret Fitzgerld advising on how to sort out the mess we're in at the moment.........now correct me if I'm wrong here, but this man couldn't look after his own finances a few years ago and had the banks write off his own bad debts along with Haughey and a few others, and now he's advising the government on how to sort things out?? I don't know wheather to laugh or cry at the brass neck of him I really don't. Watching the running of this country is like watching a car crash in slow motion, you know it's going to be bad but you'd feel like running in and pulling these muppets out before there is absolutely no hope.:(
phantom_lord wrote: » i think he would do a much better job than the politicians were have around at the moment.
Stekelly wrote: » I thought you left the country?
phantom_lord wrote: » i wasn't implying that it was cowens. i just took it that you were insinuating that the problems back then were Garret Fitzgerald's doing.
junkyard wrote: » I hope you don't think I support FF.....TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT MY SIG!!!!!!!!!
K-9 wrote: » He was the Taoiseach for 5 years and instead of doing what he said he would, he doubled our debt and raised taxes.
but that wasn't really his fault was it? and he's hands were tied by being in coalition with a bunch of those bearded types?
K-9 wrote: » He was the Taoiseach for 5 years and instead of doing what he said he would, he doubled our debt and raised taxes. Jaysus, give it 20 years and we'll be reading Cowen lectures on the economy.
junkyard wrote: » Coming and going sorting out my stuff, if that's ok with you.
phantom_lord wrote: » no?
stepbar wrote: » It didn't help that Fianna Fail left an almighty mess before Fine Gael either I suppose.
stepbar wrote: » Hey now here....... I seem to remember round election 07', posts on the Politics forum to the contrary.
Stekelly wrote: » Nope, jog on and moan about the goings on wherever your laying you hat nowadays. I just hope it isnt France. I'll be able to hear you from here.:D
stepbar wrote: » I fund it funny that someone who supports Fianna Fail is critising someone from Fine Gael for offering up a solution to all the crap happening at the moment.
dresden8 wrote: » Exactly. FG under Fitzgeral inherited the first time FF bankrupted the country. Unfortunately, they will also inherit the second time FF bankrupted the country.
In summary it would appear that in compromising his indebtedness with the Bank, Dr. Fitzgerald disposed of his only substantial asset, namely, his family home at Palmerston Road, a property which would now be worth a considerable sum of money. As in Mr. Haughey’s case, there was a substantial discounting or forbearance shown in Dr. Fitzgerald’s case. However in contrast with Mr. Haughey’s case, Dr. Fitzgerald’s case involved the effective exhaustion of his assets in order to achieve a settlement whereas Mr. Haughey’s assets were retained virtually intact.