her six-day visit...
€3,380 on food and drink
Mena wrote: » €3 380.00 in food for just herself? Or was it for all of them, seven in total? It's not clear from the article. Either way, alone, that would be €483.00 per day on food, not unreasonable for this type of trip, taking into account breakfast, lunch and dinner.Sure, you lot want your ministers to paddle across the Atlantic and stay in tents in central park?
Slow Motion wrote: » No! But it would be nice to see the fat bastards squeeze their american sized asses into an economy seat on the plane, staying in a hotel with less than 5 stars and eating in reasonably priced resteraunts just like the people they supposedly represent!
Mena wrote: » To be fair, that's not very realistic at all. The world simply does not work that way. Sure, imagine one of them inviting some Senator or Congressman out to McD's for a lunch...
Her spokesman described the the bringing of a spouse on an official trip as "normal".
Dragan wrote: » This is the part that concerned me more.
Slow Motion wrote: » I disagree! It's like that because we allow it to be!
Mena wrote: » €3 380.00 in food for just herself? Or was it for all of them, seven in total? It's not clear from the article. Either way, alone, that would be €483.00 per day on food, not unreasonable for this type of trip, taking into account breakfast, lunch and dinner. Sure, you lot want your ministers to paddle across the Atlantic and stay in tents in central park?
thelordofcheese wrote: » Bullshit. It's been "this way" since the year dot, don't pull this whining "ohh they should slum it" nonsense. The world does not work that way, and you know it. It's the same reason people have to wear suits in business, sure it'd be more frugal to turn up in jeans and a T-Shirt from pennys but then you look like a goddamn chump and nobody would give you the time of day.
Biggins wrote: » In this day and age wouldn't it be great if there was a way of getting ideas without having to spend an absolute fortune! I wish someone would invent the internet, the phone, e-mail, learn how to write, invent translation devices and actually talk to each other. Wouldn't that be grand?
thelordofcheese wrote: » Bullshit. It's been "this way" since the year dot, don't pull this whining "ohh they should slum it" nonsense. The world does not work that way, and you know it.
Berty wrote: » In a perfect world where people respect each other that may well work but when little oul Ireland is trying to play ball with the big American politicians they wont frankly care for a quick phone call or e-mail. They will want their backs scratched and to be brought out to "Chez plonk" before they will even entertain listening to a fat as* Irish jack in the box.
markpb wrote: » It works that way for a lot of very successful business men and women - who says political leaders should be any different? Ingvar Kamprad who founded Ikea never travels business class and doesn't use a private business jet. Bill Gates was similarly frugal for a very long time. Those people know the value of money because it's theirs to lose. Politicans don't value money because they only ever spend someone elses.
Slow Motion wrote: » I'll see your bullshit and raise you bollox! I am not whining, but as piss poor excuses for something go, your mealy mouth "It's been this way since year dot...." so that's OK argument just doesn't cut the mustard! The world works that way because people like that set a presedent and it was accepted, so set some new ones! Just because you have to weat a suit doesn't mean it has to be €500+ designer job! I have suits and I can tell you they all came from places like dunnes etc. You can look presentable (although in Hearnys case that's just never gonna happen).
Slow Motion wrote: » Using your logic the banks should take no blame because it's allways been done like that......... The board of FAS should take no blame because it's allways been done like that....... The HSE should take no blame because it's allways been done like that....... We should take this rip off shit because it's allwyas been done like that..... Is there a picture forming here for you?
thelordofcheese wrote: » I can tell you right now, a 500 euro suit looks far better than your dunnes one and the difference is very noticable. People place alot of value on appearances as much as you might not like it. Sure we *could* change all that, in theory. But we won't.
thelordofcheese wrote: » Yes, the picture is that you're not very good at making analogies. Let me be clear here, i'm not advocating lavish decadance but i'm really fucking shocked at why so many people seem to be incapable of grasping that sending ministers abroad costs money......Ohh fuckkit, this is AH. Never mind me, i'm just trying to be sensible, i've clearly forgotten when i am.
thelordofcheese wrote: » I can tell you right now, a 500 euro suit looks far better than your dunnes one and the difference is very noticable. People place alot of value on appearances as much as you might not like it. Sure we *could* change all that, in theory. But we won't. Yes, the picture is that you're not very good at making analogies. Let me be clear here, i'm not advocating lavish decadance but i'm really fucking shocked at why so many people seem to be incapable of grasping that sending ministers abroad costs money......Ohh fuckkit, this is AH. Never mind me, i'm just trying to be sensible, i've clearly forgotten when i am.
pcworldsucks wrote: » Rather than just bashing harney for the sake of itpeople should try and understand her motivations....which are that she is a FAT, UGLY, ROTTEN OBESE C*NT who would make you puke up your cornflakes if you had the misfortune to turn on the tv and see her BLOATED face at breakfast time. there are not many people /I would wish AIDS on but harney is one of them.. actually i would feel sorry for the poor AIDS virus that was unlucky enough to end up with harney as a host..it probably die off before it broke through the 1ft layer of FAT that surrounds her.
Slow Motion wrote: » No I think the analogies are OK, they give the background as to why the OPs story gets peoples backs up!
Slow Motion wrote: » And to 99.9% of us, the figures quoted for that trip do constitute lavish decadence! I am not asking them to go about in sackcloth and ashes (one can dream however) I am looking for reasonable restraint and consideration where the usage of public monies is concerned!
Slow Motion wrote: » You're right this is AH, and as such I think for the most part represents a cross section of this tax paying society and just because the opinions are expressed in here rather than politics or some other and more respectable fora does not mean they have any less validity!
pcworldsucks wrote: Rather than just bashing harney for the sake of itpeople should try and understand her motivations....which are that she is a FAT, UGLY, ROTTEN OBESE C*NT who would make you puke up your cornflakes if you had the misfortune to turn on the tv and see her BLOATED face at breakfast time. there are not many people /I would wish AIDS on but harney is one of them.. actually i would feel sorry for the poor AIDS virus that was unlucky enough to end up with harney as a host..it probably die off before it broke through the 1ft layer of FAT that surrounds her.
thelordofcheese wrote: » Because people have a massive cognitive dissonance when it comes to the government? Seriously, It's not that i support the current government unwavingly or anything, but i think it's probably best to save your outrage for things that are actually outrageous.Otherwise it just looks like you've got a massive hate-on for the government regardless of the situation. And i don't think biggins would appricate you stealing his shtick.
thelordofcheese wrote: » Oh my arse they do. Ferrying seven people representing our nation around the US (going around Texas, arizona and washington), plus food & lodgings. Unless you seriously think they should be staying in motels and eating at wendys, i've no problem with the figure spent. It certainly could be a hell of alot higher.
thelordofcheese wrote: » Hmm, I dunno. This Doesn't strike me as the most respectable opinion ever. And it's pretty much standard AH stuff.
thelordofcheese wrote: » ...And i don't think biggins would appreciate you stealing his shtick.
