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Windows 7

BaconZombie

Anybody tried out Windows 7 yet?
Is it better or worse {if possible} then vista?

We upgrading all the DC's in work to 2K8 so I'll need to use vista or 7 to administrate then, and that the only reason I'm installing it {only in a VM at that}.

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Zascar wrote: »

I was wondering that too, what is the point in using x64, apart from support for more than 4gb of ram?

Not much else really, that's the main reason for it. 64-bit applications should theoretically run faster than their 32-bit counterparts but there's not many (if any?) AMD64 exclusive apps right now.

AlmightyCushion

Overheal wrote: »

I told you to unmount the previous volume first before mounting another, didnt I.

That was the first image I mounted with it.

watty wrote: »

You need at least 1.5GByte RAM, 1.6GHz Pentium 4 or later or equivalent, about 20Gbyte free disk space for a separate install (don't forget you want to test all your games/Applications) and most importantly compatible Network Interface to Internet and real high end DX10 compatible Graphics card.

If your computer can't run Aero of Vista, or came with only Home Basic Vista or has an earlier Windows, then it's likely to be very lacking in the Graphics card aspect.

I'd have to disagree with you there. My 4211 with it's crappy integrated intel graphics runs it like a dream.

Overheal

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Whoever said diskmagic was shíte was correct. Everytime I tried to run the mounted image it would crap out and take windows with it. Virtual Clonedrive has been working with no problems so far.

I told you to unmount the previous volume first before mounting another, didnt I.

Zascar

I was wondering that too, what is the point in using x64, apart from support for more than 4gb of ram?

ScumLord

I'm going to download the beta now. Should I get the 64bit or will no software run on it like with vista?

[Deleted User]

Stephen wrote: »

I read somewhere that an Intel GMA950 is about the lowest you can get away with to run Aero. That just happens to be the chipset used in most Atom-based netbooks.

That's the i945 chipset, same requirement as Vista so.

Stephen

I read somewhere that an Intel GMA950 is about the lowest you can get away with to run Aero. That just happens to be the chipset used in most Atom-based netbooks.

Dartz

Run it in Virtualisation right down to between 512 and a gig. runs fine even without hardware acceleration, though Aero refuses to work. If you want Aero, you need some sort of graphics processor, even Intel integrated graphics seem to be enough to handle it.

Dardania

watty wrote: »

You need at least 1.5GByte RAM, 1.6GHz Pentium 4 or later or equivalent, about 20Gbyte free disk space for a separate install (don't forget you want to test all your games/Applications) and most importantly compatible Network Interface to Internet and real high end DX10 compatible Graphics card.

I'm running windows 7 with flair with 1 Gig of RAM, and it runs quite well on an older dell d600 laptop wioth 512meg RAM

Ponster

> and real high end DX10 compatible Graphics card.

A DX9 card is all you need to run Windows7

watty

brendon31 wrote: »

how do u install windows 7 onto your machine so that i can run it and see how i like it!

If you don't know how, then it's likely you will lose all your data and programs.

In descending order of goodness:

A separate computer
A separate hard Drive
Separate partition on same drive

It expires in August and is basically free testing for Microsoft. Really unless you are expert it's better to wait for final version and maybe 1st Service Pack and lots of expert reveiws some months after the final version in in Retail. Unless you are already running Vista, it's not likely to be a good idea.

If you do decide to install it on your existing setup, do make a copy of all your data and verify it is correct and make sure you have all disks, licence keys and drivers to re-install what you have now.

You need at least 1.5GByte RAM, 1.6GHz Pentium 4 or later or equivalent, about 20Gbyte free disk space for a separate install (don't forget you want to test all your games/Applications) and most importantly compatible Network Interface to Internet and real high end DX10 compatible Graphics card.

If your computer can't run Aero of Vista, or came with only Home Basic Vista or has an earlier Windows, then it's likely to be very lacking in the Graphics card aspect.

brendon31

how do u install windows 7 onto your machine so that i can run it and see how i like it!

[Deleted User]

watty wrote: »

NT4.0 Enterprise Edition Server from more than 10 years ago can see 4Gbyte. Though mine only used 24M of it's available 128M to run Mail Server, File & Printer Server, NTTP, Web and SQL servers :rolleyes:

Yep, support for PAE36 was removed in XP SP2. Microsoft claimed it was too unstable. I remembered testing it on XP Home with SP1 on a test bed, seemed perfectly fine to me and all 4GB I had was usable.

Jonathan

watty wrote: »

NT4.0 Enterprise Edition Server from more than 10 years ago can see 4Gbyte. Though mine only used 24M of it's available 128M to run Mail Server, File & Printer Server, NTTP, Web and SQL servers :rolleyes:

Alright Watty... we get the message... :rolleyes:

watty

jmccrohan wrote: »

It can only see the 4gb. It can't use more than 3.25gb.

NT4.0 Enterprise Edition Server from more than 10 years ago can see 4Gbyte. Though mine only used 24M of it's available 128M to run Mail Server, File & Printer Server, NTTP, Web and SQL servers :rolleyes:

AlmightyCushion

Whoever said diskmagic was shíte was correct. Everytime I tried to run the mounted image it would crap out and take windows with it.

Virtual Clonedrive has been working with no problems so far.

Stephen

son.of.jimi wrote: »

I have win 7 installed on a spare hdd i had lying around. So far the only problem I've had is I can't get a driver for my wireless to suit win7. Any ideas?

Vista drivers should work on 7, if they're available.

Jonathan

son.of.jimi wrote: »

4GB DDR2 ram (3.2 when in XP, 4.0 in win 7)

It can only see the 4gb. It can't use more than 3.25gb.

son.of.jimi

erie wrote: »

Mine :

DELL Dimension 2400 (yr 2003)
- Intel P4 2.80GHz prosessor, 533MHz FSB
- Intel 845GV Chipset
- 2GB SDRAM PC3200 RAM
- Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory
- Intergrated SoundMax Sound
- v.92 56 Kbps PCI Modem and 10/100 Ethernet
- DVD-ROM RW
- Windows XP SP2 Home Ed
- HDD 80GB IDE + 300GB 2nd IDE

*Installed Windows 7 as dualboot (Windows 7 partition = 30GB)

My Laptop :

SONY VAIO VGNSZ4MN/B (yr 2007)
- Intel Core 2 T5600 1.83GHz, 667MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache
- 2GB DDR2 533MHz RAM
- DVD+/-RW Super Multi Double Layer
- NVidia GeForce Go7400 Graphic with 128MB shared memory
- a/b/g Wireless + Bluetooth
- Built-in 'Motion Eye' Digital Camera
- Sigmatel CXD9872 High Definition Audio Codec
- Windows Vista Business Ed
- HDD 100GB S-ATA

*Installed Windows 7 as dualboot (Windows 7 partition = 16GB)

---- Installed and running perfect, only have a problem with NVidia driver then solved after 1st updated ----

Installed this yesterday, I'm really liking it. It IS miles ahead of vista... Tried playing crysis at full spec and win7 ran it no problem! CPU usage was 12%!!!

I have win 7 installed on a spare hdd i had lying around. So far the only problem I've had is I can't get a driver for my wireless to suit win7. Any ideas?

PC SPEC

Intel Pentium D 3.2GHZ
ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium
4GB DDR2 ram (3.2 when in XP, 4.0 in win 7)
EVGA 9800GTX 512mb DDR2
X-Fi Soundcard
Barracuda 400GB (Windows XP)
Barracuda 500GB (Windows 7)

KamiKazi

Gotta say I'm liking Windows 7, its a beta and its still miles ahead of Vista :pac:

Dartz

Seconding that subtitles issue. CCCP can be made to work I read, but I can't seem to do it myself. Zoom player subs do work on .mkv's, and that comes with CCCP. I think it asks you to pay though. VLC subs also sometimes don't show up. They did with the older version, but I lost that when I reinstalled.

Cy_Revenant

It's been going pretty fine on my Dell Inspiron 6000.

Pentium M 1.86Ghz,
1GB DDR2 RAM
128mb ATI Radeon X300

Did have some problems with the system becoming unresponsive after a few days without a reboot. Seems to have issues with subtitles, and Windows Picture Viewer tends to crash.

Morlar

I have put it on a couple :

A Packard Bell P4 3.0 ghz 2gb Ram, xfi fatality, 7800GTX, DVD RW -

no problems that I know of.

Also on a IBM Thinkpad T41 1.4ghz Pentium Mobile, 2gb Ram, DVD/CDRW -

does not recognise the wireless chipset,
misidentified the video card (now ok).
No sound - still not ok & havent had time to look at that yet.

Sherifu

M1330, forget the spec.

Dartz

Oddly enough, some games give/gave me better performance under 7. Bioshock being the notable one. Of course, I has to reinstall, but now, lets see.

Specs:
Dell XPS M1530
130-odd GB partition.
2.5ghz Core2Duo
4GB DDR2 667
Nvidia 8600Gt 256 MB.

Some bugs. It likes killing itself after 4.6 hours (I have no idea if using a Native install has fixed this yet, had it running for only three or so). The odd app doesnt work, fingerprint reader doesnt enrol. Most drivers I need do. Dell Webcam centre works. It's pretty snappy, but still a little slow to boot. I've disabled bluetooth on my laptop anyway, since I never use it, therefore it hasn't been tested.

erie

Mine :

DELL Dimension 2400 (yr 2003)
- Intel P4 2.80GHz prosessor, 533MHz FSB
- Intel 845GV Chipset
- 2GB SDRAM PC3200 RAM
- Intel Extreme 3D Graphics with 64MB Shared Memory
- Intergrated SoundMax Sound
- v.92 56 Kbps PCI Modem and 10/100 Ethernet
- DVD-ROM RW
- Windows XP SP2 Home Ed
- HDD 80GB IDE + 300GB 2nd IDE

*Installed Windows 7 as dualboot (Windows 7 partition = 30GB)

My Laptop :

SONY VAIO VGNSZ4MN/B (yr 2007)
- Intel Core 2 T5600 1.83GHz, 667MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache
- 2GB DDR2 533MHz RAM
- DVD+/-RW Super Multi Double Layer
- NVidia GeForce Go7400 Graphic with 128MB shared memory
- a/b/g Wireless + Bluetooth
- Built-in 'Motion Eye' Digital Camera
- Sigmatel CXD9872 High Definition Audio Codec
- Windows Vista Business Ed
- HDD 100GB S-ATA

*Installed Windows 7 as dualboot (Windows 7 partition = 16GB)

---- Installed and running perfect, only have a problem with NVidia driver then solved after 1st updated ----

watty

But Win7 *IS* mostly better than Vista (not hard) so they got the users *coming* AND *going*

Capt'n Midnight

watty wrote:

Instead all the people already stuck with vista and wiped & re-installed Win7 are expected to cough up full price in Aug 2009 when beta turns off.

Just because they've tried that trick before with every new windows launch where your old version won't install over the beta or read all your data after the trial ends doesn't mean they'll try it again this time *

* doesn't mean they won't either , and lots of people don't have Vista DVD due to pre-install

Capt'n Midnight

Morlar wrote: »

Yep - installed it on a sisters laptpop running windows 7 the other day 'office premium 2000' - runs fine (didnt do the outlook part). Each app loaded in less than a half second flat - possibly due to it all being a new install.

http://officeupdates.microsoft.com don't work with vista

so you will probably have to get the tool from http://secunia.org to check for patches after you've applied service pack 1 and 3 for office 2000

watty

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_7_gaming_performance/default.asp

Basically Crysis on DX9, apart from one resolution XP wins, win7 2nd. and Vista last.

On DX10, Vista is much faster than Win7

This expiring beta is for something that should be SP3 for Vista or at best Win NT Ver 6.2 (SP2 is now delayed since november 2008, suspicious?).

Instead all the people already stuck with vista and wiped & re-installed Win7 are expected to cough up full price in Aug 2009 when beta turns off.

/me looks for coat. (It's the one with beta copies of Win8 and OS XI)