Degsy wrote: » There's plenty of people living quite comfortably on the dole,especialy if they happen to be single mothers. Some of these people have been claiming since they left school and the idea of working has never occured to them.
realcam wrote: » Are you for real? We all know 'socialising' is just another term for getting pissed and I can't see why I should finance some wasters 10 'Dutch Gold' per day.
themadchef wrote: » For alot of people having to sign on the dole is soul destroying
janullrich wrote: » Also we have these so called refugees from countries like Nigeria who while some work are the worst welfare scrougers going. These are the ones who should get no money at all. The problem with Ireland is that we are so generous to these people when what we should be doing is deporting them.
janullrich wrote: » Well personally I will have to go on the dole this week and I am not looking forward to it one bit. However after been let go last week I am entitled to it and I don't think what you get is too much. I will still look for a job but chances are u will need to set up ur own business or emigrate (god knows where though) However the government should do more to get lazy layabouts off their backsides and look for jobs somewhere. I know a guy who I used to live with who spent his dole money on alcohol and nothing much else. He did a bit of caddie work. These people are the ones where dole money is too much and who should be made to suffer by it being scraped.Also we have these so called refugees from countries like Nigeria who while some work are the worst welfare scrougers going. These are the ones who should get no money at all. The problem with Ireland is that we are so generous to these people when what we should be doing is deporting them.
<3BeingIN6th wrote: » Do you have any proof of this, or is it just your opinion?
Snow-Monkey wrote: » I'm on the dole and I have to pay rent, feed my self and pay bills!!! I hate it its mind numbing boardim I want out, Id kill for any job right now just so I had the satisfaction of doing something some what constructive with my life I dont like being stuck doing nothing, I aply for as many jobs online as humanly possible which in any way are in my line of work, but the things is there are a lot of qualified people out there with the qualifactaions to match if not imporoove these establishments for me Im a chef... granted I can cook but there are guys with the same amount of experence who are 5 times better chefs taught bye really good chefs my history of head chefs are alchaolics who leave me in the **** looking after there kitchen, I had to learn on the job and the fact that to restaurants i worked in droped of the face of the earth because there owners where dumb a$$'s I never trained in ireland, I worked in england and France and dont have the nesscery hccp document to say oh i know not to put fish and chicken in the same tub while in a fridge etc.... the out come of it is I have to go do that poxy course just to help me get a job.. I dont sit around on my ass allday watching tv granted I have been recently but now im nearly sighned on I can... actuly go out and hunt for work... So know for me personally No i dont think its to much I may not even be intitled to the 200 a week so please some of us do look after things... Yes in Irish crx's first point that chap should have a 130 a week hate that sort of behavour....:rolleyes:
green123 wrote: » yes we should be deporting them, because they are supposed to claim asylum in the first free country they get to , and not cherry pick their way across europe until they find a soft touch like ireland
Mena wrote: » And how is it you know that Ireland is not the first "free country" they get to exactly?
EKRIUQ wrote: » I agree with the original OP and but it's not just the dole it's the "entitlements" Dole €197 pw week Rent allowance € 125 per week Total €322 plus Full medical card, free furniture and white goods, and fuel allowance. What ever value you want to put on that. I'm sure a lot of working people can't clear €322 per week and they work 40 hours per week. Why bother working for an extra €50 it's not worth the hassle
ntlbell wrote: » are you not claiming rent allowance? you should be.. there's also fuel allowance etc not sure if you're entitled to those but you should look into it and claim your full list of benifits
EKRIUQ wrote: » I agree with the original OP and but it's not just the dole it's the "entitlements"Dole €197 pw week Rent allowance € 125 per week Total €322 plus Full medical card, free furniture and white goods, and fuel allowance. What ever value you want to put on that. I'm sure a lot of working people can't clear €322 per week and they work 40 hours per week. Why bother working for an extra €50 it's not worth the hassle
Bluetonic wrote: » Dole (unemployment benefit/assistance) as it's been refereed to here is actually €204.30. Thats standard for benefit, the highest allowed for allowance.
green123 wrote: » because there are no scheduled flights or boats between ireland and nigeria, so they must come through other countries
If you have applied for asylum in an EU country covered by the Dublin Regulation and wish to have your application considered here, it is not certain that you are entitled to do so. Another country covered by the Dublin Regulation may be responsible for considering your application. As a result, you may have to go to that country. Following are some circumstances under which another country may consider your application: 1. if you have received a visa or a residence permit from another country covered by the Dublin Regulation 2. if you have illegally entered a country covered by the Dublin Regulation 3. if you have already applied for asylum in another country covered by the Dublin Regulation 4. if your family has already received residence permits in another EU Member State
Simple movement through a transit area without leaving it, does not count as regular entry into the first member state but if an application for asylum is made while in the transit zone, the member state where the transit zone is bears responsibility (Article 7 The Dublin Convention)
Degsy wrote: » Dint forget..if you are working for a living on that sort of money,a visit to the doctor can clean you out..120 quid for consultation,prescriptions and drugs.
KikiDee wrote: » I realise it's tax payers money and the like but I mean, it's not like tax payers even see that money in their pay packets each week so what are we missing??
Snow-Monkey wrote: » why bother self esteam standing on your own two feet, there all important thing's... It sucks being unemployed id rather work and aleast say i work then be a bum.....
green123 wrote: » mena i dont know why you are quoting all that nonsense. all i said was that they had passed through another country to get here, and they did.
EKRIUQ wrote: » Sorry, didn't know that, What about people on disability benefit as I know someone who is perfectly fit for work as he works odd days, but has been claiming disabilty for the last 10 years since he came back from England because of his back.
Mena wrote: » Unless they actually went through immigration in those other countries, no they did not.
Degsy wrote: » That could buy you nearly 200 cans of beer per week!
