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Hash making me paranoid?

LegacyUser

if i am drinking i often smoke hash however i never smoke it otherwise. I have never noticed any ill effects. Recently i did smoke it on its own. However i got very paranoid and thought everyone was looking at me. I am a very paranoid person anyway but was wondering could the hash be effecting me without me noticing? or in the long term?

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ScumLord

Cannabis does seem to make some people paranoid and just doesn't suit some people at all.

You more than likely smoked soap which is heavily cut down with other barbiturates or pharmisuitical drugs (at best). Soap seems to have a much higher paranoid buzz off it than pure hash or weed. Your paranoia will also be influenced by the fact it is illegal and socially unaccepted by most. Your afraid if anyone turns up at the door your in the ****. That passes with time though all smokers get that when they first start smoking on their own. I still get it the odd time after 10 years of smoking, especially when going down to the shop for something. You always feel twice as stoned when your out in public for some reason.

In Amsterdam though I don't get any paranoia.

If you want to continue smoking, don't buy crap. Do not buy soap! Smoke with friends and when your smoking alone keep yourself occupied, make the most out of your high.

Forsaken1

Hmmm, yes one can become paranoid from smoking that stuff...
Also, maybe (quote:) "everyone was looking" at you because they smelt the hash!!!
:rolleyes:

SIBHCHEVIE

miss no stars wrote: »

I know someone who developed paranoid schizophrenia from it. Stop messing around and being an idiot. ditch the hash before you end up in an asylum or killing someone (or both).

Jesus no messing with you there. The world is going to be full of murderers and insane people if thats you view.

Yes some people who smoke may experience mental problems but that is due to the fact that the problem is already there in the first place and the smoking or any other drug taking just happens to trigger it.

Zulu

SIBHCHEVIE wrote: »

Yes some people who smoke may experience mental problems but that is due to the fact that the problem is already there in the first place and the smoking or any other drug taking just happens to trigger it.

...and you know this because you are:

1) a neural physiologist.
2) a psychoanalyst.
3) you don't know actually, you are just guessing.

That's dangerously like medical advice you are giving there, and I'd wager you are not a doctor.

LuckyBleeder

I used to smoke with friends when i was younger and would get terribly paranoid when outdoors.It didnt matter so much when we were in a house or drinking akong with it,but get o a bus or go the the shops and BAM..instant paranoia.Its a fact of smoking life,mate.

missyb

I have no interest in a debate on hash either, to answer the question posted. I think some people are more prone to paranoia than others, I lived with 3 other girls a few years ago and we all indulged reguarly in smoking the stuff. 2 of the girls had no problems at all and enjoyed it and that was it, it did not affect them, it really didnt. For me, i completely lost motivation, in things I am actually hugely passionate about ,all I wanted to do was stay in,smoke,do the bare minimal, just what I had to, and I did not like facing the outside world at all. This was to the extent that my mother was suspicious of my behaviour when I'd go home at the weekends. I did not become paranoid thankfully but my other housemate completely lost the plot because of smoking. I recall walking down the street with her and she was convinced people were following us, she'd end up in tears over it. She also thought we were all talking about her all the time and this was never the case. She gave up because she felt it wasnt worth it and so did I because I developed athsma, (Im not necessarily blaming Hash, adult asthma in my family, but I do think smoking it induced the asthma earlier since I am that way inclined). For me as soon as I gave up my motivation came back, I can definitely make the link. My friend keeps away from it as she cant handle it and one of my other friends still smokes reguarly and it does not affect her at all, the other does very occassionally as she just isnt interested any more but again it never affected her. My point is after this rant, nothing is black and white, we were 4 people smoking the same amounts but with very different reactions
if you think you are paranoid then it probably is because of Hash, you sound like my friend who got paranoid so you dont sound like someone who should be a regular user, it doesnt affect everyone but for me it wasnt a habit I could maintain.

kmick

Cannabis makes you hyper aware of things like taste, smell, sound other people while beer dumbs you down (its a sedative). If you are the type of person who gets paranoid alcohol takes the edge off completely. Simple

User Named

Smoking definatly did have a hugh affect on our mental state. I started smoking the stuff when i was 13/14. Needless to say I moved on to stronger stuff by the age of 15/16 i.e. estacy...A number of things happened then that made me reliase that my confidence was completly rocked. During my first 3 years of secondary school i was basically in the same class as others (and no it wasnt a special class or anything) but after the Junior cert as you know you get mixed up in different classes therefore out of your comfort zone.. new people etc....It basically shattered my confidence from been too paranoid to talk to people i didnt know, the only thing that helped me was that i played quite a lot of sport and was captain of the u.16 and eventually the senior gaa side..

The point i'm trying to make is that when the paranoia got so bad I thought it was the e's, but when i went off them for a year or so, it didnt make much different. I stopped smoking dope at 18 (22 now) and found a difference straight away, now i never felt better. I am now a secondary school teacher and occassionly take the odd blowout with estacy but to no real side affects, a bit fried the next day. Smoking was the cause of all my mental problems, and although I'm better than before I still am nowhere near as confident as i should have been without smoking it.....

It was only recently when i watched the top 20 most dangerous drugs, a documentry on channel 4, that i seen dope ranking 8th r 9th most dangerous with estacy ranking 18th, even ahead of steroids, which further confirmed what i had found out the hard way.

Anyway thats my two cents worth...

Darragh29

af_thefragile wrote: »

I love how whenever there's a discussion about marijuana someone comes along to defend it by saying there's no scientific evidence that says hash is harmful in anyway.

I've seen a couple of very close friends of mine screw up their lives over hash, i know its a very destructive drug even though it seems harmless. It'll make you very lazy, it'll make you very disinterested in life, it could make you paranoid, it'll make you slowly screw your life over if you stick to it.

Don't wanna turn this into a debate about marijuana but hash is not a completely safe drug. It is addicting (not as addicting as nicotine and alcohol but still pretty addictive) and it does create a few long term psychological effects.

I've seen two very intelligent people I know make a balls of college because they turned into hash heads and couldn't get up off the couch to go to college. If it's having negative effects, just eliminate it from your life I think is the best advice...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Darragh29 wrote: »

I've seen two very intelligent people I know make a balls of college because they turned into hash heads and couldn't get up off the couch to go to college. If it's having negative effects, just eliminate it from your life I think is the best advice...

THey weren't "on" hash my friend... They were just naturally lazy and prefered to do something else. Hash didn't ruin their colege life, their lack of interest did.

I smoked all the way through college and I have a BA... It's bull to see someone blame marajuana instead of realising that these people are just naturally lazy worthless people. It's an easy one to place the blame on and makes people understand better... PFFT!!!

Zulu

Sophia Full AcrossL wrote: »

It's bull to see someone blame marajuana instead of realising that these people are just naturally lazy worthless people.

No.
Whats bull is calling someone you don't know, and have never met "naturally lazy".

Whats worse is calling them "worthless people". It displays a wealth of ignorance and intolerance.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Sorry for following the others off topic here, but:

I view people who waste their college life on drugs drink and having a good time, fcuk their exams up and blame it on something like drink or drugs. It's pathetic and cowardice to say such things. Therefore the only conclusion I can draw up is that they are worthless and lazy

staker

Hash has different effects on different people. I get paranoid too when I smoke it,haven't done so in over 5 years, but I remember different types of hash had different levels of paranoia.
I don't know what the OP wants to hear but I'd either give it up or try a lighter version if you want to continue smoking hash.(Please don't ask me the names, I don't know.)
Would you consider cakes,yoghurt or do you smoke for social purposes?

JayC5

I read some of the posts here and agree with some / disagree with others and don't have time to read them all so I'll give you my side:

I'm in my late twenties and have smoked randomly for the past decade or so, some times other peoples stuff & sometimes buying my own & spending days on end heavily sedated you might say. I'm not a heavy user and have never been one but feel I've experienced enough of it to know what it does.

Personally I think its effects are subjective depeding on the personality of the person taking it, their age, mindframe & reasons for taking it. Mine was purely recreational - at parties, festivals, watching movies at home or to immerse myself in computer games etc - an enhancement smoker so to speak.

As for music and visuals it can make for an exciting experience but at this point in my life it seems completely worthless to seek out enjoyment in something by this manner. If you can't enjoy something sober then you should ask the question why? Plus while it heightens the senses in some ways it saps motivation / concentration in general, not to mention the fact that it plays havoc with your memory, this I know for certain as it did with me!

Over the decade I've known heavy users and occassional users, funnily enough the heavy users are at a point in their lives now that seems restricted or stunted. I've seen paranoia, personality issues and a complete lack of motivation in people due to smoking dope - its namesake speaks for itself I suppose. Personally I have had serious bouts of paranoia from smoking and this persuaded me to keep away from the stuff, anything that can upset your mental equilibrium like that surely ain't no good for ya and over time can do damage in my opinion.

Remember, my view point is that of someone who has been the angsty teenager & is now (hopefully) a mature responsible adult so I've experienced both sides of the coin. I have my opinions on the legality issues but thats not relevant here so we'll leave that out. For those who encourage you to continue smoking - well my guess is that they are young and still immature, eventually they'll realise the emptiness of it all when they get older. When you're a teenager with little responsibility except trying to get your ass out of bed to make it to lectures your view of the world is a little more simplistic to someone with a mortgage, kids, debts, a career - I'm not being patronising, I'm being realistic, it's common sense ffs I've been there!

Anyway, I am in no position to preach just thought you'd like a sincere response from someone who has once stood where you are now - if you asked me personally I'd say save your money, sanity, confidence & spend time doing something worthwhile - in retrospect I've had some great nights smoking but it means little to me now - reading a book gives me a more enjoyable break from reality & I've never heard of reading causing paranoia so.....

There is mind-blowing beauty of a myriad forms in this world, why dull your senses to try and feel / see / hear / experience it - surely the opposite would make more sense. You will always get the for & against camps so its all down to a matter of personal choice, if it doesn't work tho I'd say get out while you still can. Your call buddy, hope I've been helpful.

Mulan

Just say NO.
Don't second guess something that might ruin your life.
It starts with hash and then?
Just say NO

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Mulan wrote: »

Just say NO.
Don't second guess something that might ruin your life.
It starts with hash and then?
Just say NO

Yes and two days later you're 100% guaranteed to be shooting up in an alley while coming down of a crystal meth binge:pac:

Zulu

Mulan wrote: »

Just say NO.
Don't second guess something that might ruin your life.
It starts with hash and then?
Just say NO

That's a bit of a pointless argument. Plenty of people have smoked and haven't gone on to other drugs.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Mulan wrote: »

Just say NO.
Don't second guess something that might ruin your life.
It starts with hash and then?
Just say NO

ROFL... I love this type of post. Makes me happy that I have not been completely brainwashed by everything I hear or see... PFFT!!!

You know where most people start off? With a can of cider or a drag of a smoke, it's not hash they smoke first... For people to believe that one drug will lead you on to another. Ignorance is, and always will be, your biggest problem

Zulu

Sophia Full AcrossL wrote: »

For people to believe that one drug will lead you on to another. Ignorance is, and always will be, your biggest problem

Well if you want to have an educated opinion as opposed to an ignorant one, you'd acknowledge that one drug can easily lead to another.

It's as ignorant to suggest that one drug won't lead to another, as it is to suggest that one drug leads to another for all users.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Zulu wrote: »

Well if you want to have an educated opinion as opposed to an ignorant one, you'd acknowledge that one drug can easily lead to another.

It's as ignorant to suggest that one drug won't lead to another, as it is to suggest that one drug leads to another for all users.

What we were told all the time, was if we were to smoke hash or weed, we would end up doing heavier drugs etc etc... yet nobody says anything about alcohol. Anyway, if someone is to end up on heavier drugs, they are weak willed. There is nothing that can be done about it. I have never taken anything else and I never will. I know lots of people who are in the same position. People who do say "yea I blame hash for my addiction to heroin" are idiots...

Zulu

Sophia Full AcrossL wrote: »

What we were told all the time, was if we were to smoke hash or weed, we would end up doing heavier drugs etc etc... yet nobody says anything about alcohol. Anyway, if someone is to end up on heavier drugs, they are weak willed. There is nothing that can be done about it. I have never taken anything else and I never will. I know lots of people who are in the same position. People who do say "yea I blame hash for my addiction to heroin" are idiots...

Well this thread isn't about either alcohol or the various will power of people would take other drugs.

I might suggest that before you go labelling people you don't know as idiots you consider that other drugs doesn't necessarily mean heroin.

Before I smoked hash, I said that I'd never take drugs. Then I smoked hash.
When I smoked hash, I said that I'd never take any other drugs. Then I did.
While I never took heroin I've tried pretty much everything else.

The hardest drug to take; to rationalise taking was the first drug I took. Hash. Once I'd over come that hurdle it was very easy to rationalise other drugs.

It's with this personal insight that I don't call unfortunate people I don't know idiots. Why? Because to do so it to make an ignorant ill-informed comment about someone. And while I fail miserably at it, I do strive not to be an ignoramus.

At this point I think I made my point, and I'd apologise to the OP for taking this a little OT, but I would like to stress that you the OP would do well to heed my posts on this subject, because I'm speaking from experience; an experience I wouldn't like anyone else to be subjected to.
Hash is great fun and all at the start, but don't get too involved. It's not as kosher as common knowledge (sic) would have you believe.

sexyladywall

Sophia Full AcrossL wrote: »

For people to believe that one drug will lead you on to another. Ignorance is, and always will be, your biggest problem

ignorance is bliss.

spitfireIRL

Sean_K wrote: »

Yes and two days later you're 100% guaranteed to be shooting up in an alley while coming down of a crystal meth binge:pac:

brilliant. I've been smoking for a few years and I have to agree with the original poster it does make me paranoid recently so as of 2009 I havent been smoking, hope to stick with it for at least a while as i've the LC coming up

deadhead13

It effects me in the same way . It doesn't agree with you - stop smoking it, problem solved.

LegacyUser

ya it more than likely is the hash making you paranoid but it will either pass or get worse depending on the person, i use to get paranoid off weed but not hash (strength difference) but i dont any more if you dont like the paranoid feeling my advice is dont smoke it and if you do smaoke it around friends in a place your comfortable with and watch a funny dvd and you should not be paranoid, but like i said it differs from person to person

Zaph

Folks, please don't drag up 6 month old threads, it serves no useful purpose.

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