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€200 parking levy applies to Waterford

Dum_Dum

According to RTE anyway:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1119/budget.html

"The Government's new €200 workplace parking levy is to be introduced in five cities from next January." ... "The details of the levy will be published in tomorrow's Finance Billbut it will apply in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford."

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Bards

gscully wrote: »

I quoted you in work this morning and the immediate response was 'Ah, but would you then be taxed on Benefit in Kind?'

From thios morning's Irish Examiner
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=78080-qqqx=1.asp
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Parking space levy hits trouble

By Caroline O’Doherty
A LOOPHOLE is already threatening to drive the Government’s new parking space levy off the road after it emerged staff who pay their employers for the privilege of parking at their workplace will be exempt from the new tax.

That means even if an employee pays only a nominal sum such as a euro for their parking space, they could escape the €200 annual penalty which is intended to collect up to €10 million a year for the exchequer.

Finance Minister Brian Lenihan said the full details of the scheme had yet to be worked out and it would be up to the Revenue Commissioners to make decisions on who was liable for the levy.
All employers who provided parking spaces would have to notify this fact to Revenue, he pointed out, hinting that questions would be asked if it was suspected that nominal charges were used to escape payment of the full levy.

Some more details of the scheme — which is estimated to apply to 50,000 workplace parking spaces in Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick and Waterford — emerged yesterday, with confirmation that exemptions will apply to disabled drivers, employees of the emergency services and workers with vans or other commercial vehicles essential for carrying out their duties, rather than simply getting to and from work.

Reduced rates will apply to workers who job-share, are absent on maternity leave or who are employed on certain shift work arrangements, as well as to workers who share spaces with their colleagues.

Workers who have occasional permission to park, where a space is available to them for no more than 10 days in a year, are also exempt as are retired employees who have occasional use of a space.

Motorists will also be subject to a new measure announced by the minister yesterday which will require all second-hand vehicles imported into the country to undergo the National Car Test prior to being registered here.

In a related move, all foreign registered vehicles intended to be in Ireland for more than 42 days — a time period which may be amended at a later stage by the Revenue Commissioners — must be notified to a temporary register to be set up for that purpose.

Department of Finance official Derek Moran said the measures were both a road safety and a revenue issue. The car test would ensure that cars brought into Ireland were roadworthy and the tightening of registration rules would help ensure proper vehicle registration tax and motor tax was paid.

“There are a lot of speeding offences involving these cars where there is no way of tracing them,” he said.

He added that many imported cars had been converted and boasted extras which attracted a higher rate of tax and this would become evident during the National Car Test and registration process.

KingLoser

What's really funny about this is that in a couple of months, we'll have to pay for the bank managers parking space too.

Cabaal

Dum_Dum wrote: »

"531P.—(1) (a) designate that an area or areas which is or are within the administrative area (within the meaning of section 2 of the Local Government Act 2001) of a relevant local authority shall be an urban area for the purposes
of this Part"

Part 531P describes the limits of the levy area, which states the city administrative area. So, this includes:

1. The City Centre (obviously)
2. Ardkeen hospital
3. All industrial estates on the Cork Road, before Butlerstown Roundabout.
4. All industrial estates adjacent to the outer ring road.
5. Dunmore Road area as far as the garage where the Passage/Dunmore Roads fork

It excludes

1. The Airport
2. Ferrybank outwith the City boundary (i.e. in Kilkenny)
3. The Port
4. Butlerstown Retail Park (due to kink in the boundary)

Its interesting to note that on the last word they stated that the gov worked with local councils who were allowed to decide what places would be included or not included, so perhaps also waterford co co's fault for including IDA estates in all this

My problem is the IDA estate is not zoned as a urban area and is instead zoned as an industrial area, so how can this apply to it?

Trotter

Im going to teach children how to burn all their rubbish.

That'll quieten those snot green TDs.

FGR

The question was posed on Newstalk as to whether staff will have to pay for parking if the roadway outside of their place of work is free to park on. This is particularly relevant to places of work that are in residential areas (Such as shops and the like). A green party TD, whose name I cannot remember, stated that it would be taken into account and more than likely the levy not required.

Interesting, really. I for one will be declaring that I do not wish to use the parking facilities and keep my 200 euros, tyvm!

Dum_Dum

"531P.—(1) (a) designate that an area or areas which is or are within the administrative area (within the meaning of section 2 of the Local Government Act 2001) of a relevant local authority shall be an urban area for the purposes
of this Part"

Part 531P describes the limits of the levy area, which states the city administrative area. So, this includes:

1. The City Centre (obviously)
2. Ardkeen hospital
3. All industrial estates on the Cork Road, before Butlerstown Roundabout.
4. All industrial estates adjacent to the outer ring road.
5. Dunmore Road area as far as the garage where the Passage/Dunmore Roads fork

It excludes

1. The Airport
2. Ferrybank outwith the City boundary (i.e. in Kilkenny)
3. The Port
4. Butlerstown Retail Park (due to kink in the boundary)

gscully

Bards wrote: »

AFAIK it only applies if you are given a "free Parking Space", ask your employer to charge you a nominal fee, say €1 per year then it gets over this new free parking tax

I quoted you in work this morning and the immediate response was 'Ah, but would you then be taxed on Benefit in Kind?'

Trotter

Bards wrote: »

If the Greens are the only things standing between us and the melting ice caps, there must be some very worried polar bears out there after hearing this performance.

If I was a penguin sittin on a load of sloppy ice watching these shower of numpties on the TV, I'd be sh***n myself!!!!!!

Its glorious incompetence with zero accountability. If you're a complete disaster at your job, you should be hauled up for it this week, not in 3 or 4 years time at the next election.

Cabaal

trishw78 wrote: »

Here's a question because you and others like you don't own a car are you entittled to claim the tax relief that cyclists can claim. For instance if you use public transport can you claim it???

I don't believe you can, it only appears to apply to bike and bike accessory's

j walsh

Maybe i missed an earlier post,
but does anyone know if this levy applies to the main industrial estate?

trishw78

ziedth wrote: »

I'm outraged on your behalf lads as I don't drive one of the only benefits for not having a car I might add.

Here's a question because you and others like you don't own a car are you entittled to claim the tax relief that cyclists can claim. For instance if you use public transport can you claim it???

ziedth

I'm outraged on your behalf lads as I don't drive one of the only benefits for not having a car I might add.

andros

Once I read it will be only aplying to the city centers, but on the other hand there is some indication that all over the city will be affected.

We're here in the industrial estate as well and all of us is wondering about that lot of ****.

marlin vs

I wouldn't mind (not) but politicians are exempt and can park for free, one rule for them another one for us.

Cabaal

mimiraffo wrote: »

Whatever Happened to Kilkenny??????!!!! Seeing as claims are made constantly that it is a city......Anyone??!!!!!!!!!!

Finally Waterford people got there way and no there still not happy...go figure :rolleyes:

anyway back on topic, I'm curious while it may apply to Waterford does it apply to Industrial Estates or just parking in and around the city?

Bards

Here's a piece from today's Irish Examiner - Tells you a lot about our TD's
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=77949-qqqx=1.asp
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More guff from Cuffe as Green TD crashes and burns live on air

By Shaun Connolly, Political Correspondent
IT’S a good job Green TD Ciarán Cuffe prefers to cycle — if his car crash radio appearance yesterday is anything to go by.

Wheeled out by the Government to explain the tax-break for bike owners and the levy on the right to park at work, Mr Cuffe performed a dazzling array of back-flips, U-turns and tyre-screeching emergency stops before his staggering lack of knowledge saw him smash headlong into a cul-de-sac at some speed.

Come on Ciarán, it’s as easy as putting bottles in a glass bank. This is your big chance to show the Greens are on top of things and not just talking through their sandals.

How do I get my €1,000 per five-years tax break for cycling to work, Ciarán?

“If an employee wants it, it has to be made available — all employers have to provide it.”

That’s great Ciarán, can’t wait! You sure about that?

“I’m not quite sure. I haven’t seen the details on that. That may not be the case.”

Oh, Ciarán! What about the €200-a-year car-park charge — where do I have to pay that?

“In the major cities.”

So, that’s Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford and Galway, right?

“I’m not sure if it’s every part of those cities. I’m guessing it’s at least the city centres, and possibly the whole area.”

Guessing? What do I do if I can’t afford to park — wherever it is I’m supposed to park in the zone of mystery you outline?

“Some of the cities have half-decent public transport systems.”

Half decent? So I’ll be able to get to work half the time then? Have you really thought this one through Ciarán?

“That may be the case. I don’t have the details of it.”

But surely you’ve worked out what happens where there is pot-luck parking with twice as many staff as spaces? Oh, it drops to €100 each? But that could still be really unfair, Ciarán.

“I’m not sure if it goes down from there or not.”

That’s clear then. And how much will it raise?

“Apparently €10m a year.”

Apparently? That doesn’t sound a lot though, Ciarán, not considering how much it will cost to administer.

How much profit will the Government make for putting drivers through this hassle?

“I don’t have the details.”

Oh, dear, Ciarán. You do actually know you’re called Ciarán do you, Ciarán? Oh good. So if the emergency budget was all about national solidarity why won’t ministers be paying this tax?

“I don’t have the full details.”

Calamity Ciarán then answered a flurry of other questions on his specialised subject with a revolving deployment of the terms “I’d imagine”, “I’m not sure” and most worrying of all, “Maybe”.

If the TD thought he’d managed to cleverly hoodwink RTÉ listeners over his amazing lack of knowledge, he had a rude awakening as the texts poured in — “He knows feck all!” and “More guff from Cuffe” turned out to be two of the kinder reactions.

If the Greens are the only things standing between us and the melting ice caps, there must be some very worried polar bears out there after hearing this performance.

christophicus

Bards wrote: »

AFAIK it only applies if you are given a "free Parking Space", ask your employer to charge you a nominal fee, say €1 per year then it gets over this new free parking tax

Lol , really ? You gotta love the way the government really thinks through its policies :P .

Bards

AFAIK it only applies if you are given a "free Parking Space", ask your employer to charge you a nominal fee, say €1 per year then it gets over this new free parking tax

Mossy Monk

It is a load of horse****. Before they do this sort of thing then please provide a viable alternative.

jhegarty

everyone from the industrial estate can just park in wit now...

Sully

Kilkenny related jokes/insults/"Its not a city" jibes not wanted. Been there, done that, worn the t-shirt. Site admins asked we drop it, so lets just keep it that way thanks.

Is a mad idea to make money but its not something that has been debated much to get changed. Love to know how its going to work or be policed. How can they even consider charging people €200 for a car parking space?!

mimiraffo

The Government's new €200 workplace parking levy is to be introduced in five cities from next January.The details of the levy will be published in tomorrow's Finance Bill but it will apply in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford.

Whatever Happened to Kilkenny??????!!!! Seeing as claims are made constantly that it is a city......Anyone??!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, €200 to park in your own parking spot while you work, what next?
Charge you a fee to pee?

What are we gonna do? sit back and accept it ?

Post your reactions and let me know your thoughts on the subject......

Trotter

I wonder where the boundary will be. Its such absolute rubbish. Time to get emailing our TDs.

Daysha

A message to all those people who campaigned for Waterford to have national recognition as Irelands 5th city:

Now look what you've done.