Unregistered wrote: » So me and my girlfriend live together, and have been for the last few months. However, she's contributing nothing fnancially. She's paying no bills, rent, food or entertainment. She does pay, for the most part, for her own clothes and make up. However, about 6 months ago I was fired and althought I had another job quickly the wage was less. She does contrubute in other ways, the house is always clean and she does the laundry. I love her to pieces but it's really stressing me out that she won't get a job. I have been asking her for months. When I say, "won't" I don't mean can't. She really has made no effort to get a job. She gets €100 from watching her sister's child 3 to 4 days a week but most of this gets spent on clothes. She says she can't get a job because she's obligated to watch her sister's child. Meanwhile her sister is getting super cheap child care and saving for a deposit on a new house. So basically, I am subsitidizing her sister's deposit that pisses me off because we're living pay check to paycheck. With the economy the way it is, I have told her things could get really bad quick and if she's working all the money she makes could be saved away for a rainy day. Even a job in a chipper answering the phone would be grand. We've walked by tons of take-a-ways with adverts in the window. She hasn't even made up a C.V.! In the past she's applied for nany positions but when these people ask her to drop by for an interview she blows it off. On top of all this she's really doing nothing with her life. She has no friends, she's not taking any courses and when she's not watching her sister's kid she's on eBay. She's nearly 30 and going nowhere. Can anyone offer any ideas on how I can motivate her and improve both of our lives?
sprinklesspanky wrote: » So I've had many "heart to hearts" with her. In the she always says "I'll get a job" but nothings ever done, no CV written no applications put in... days turn into weeks and weeks turn into months. I don't seem to be able to get through to her. She has worked before, she managed a call center. No, she most certainly doesn't have the baby blues. When she moved in with me it was to be a step towards independence and not a step back. She's not using me, because all I am providing is a night out once a week (I'd do that any way), rent (it would be the same with or without her) and food (that is an additional cost but minimal €300 or €400 a month). Entertainment costs money, transporation, and bits here and there all in all she's probably costing me €600 per month but that €600 could be saved. I haven't spent any real big money on her, no gifts like jewerly or a car. What I am frustrated with is we have no savings and we're going financially nowhere. If she had a job and was able to chip in we could be saving for hard times, right now we have no parachute. We also can't buy things that we want (a bigger TV, holidays) and I can't buy things I want (musical equipment). I don't like living paycheck to paycheck as it's fiscally irresponsible and it's keeping me up at nights. I want to motivate her to get a job, I have been nice and I have been direct. Whatever approch I am using is not working but she's not attacking the prospect of getting a job with any vigor. I want her to have a can do attitude and get out there and start making it happen. The economy is horrible but even trying would make me feel better.
and there all in all she's probably costing me €600 per month but that €600 could be saved.
OP you've got to draw a line in the sand. Also, she shold get the dole. That would add another €200 per week onto what she's already getting!
She does contrubute in other ways, the house is always clean and she does the laundry.
Unregistered wrote: » Even a job in a chipper answering the phone would be grand.
Unregistered wrote: » So me and my girlfriend live together, and have been for the last few months. However, she's contributing nothing fnancially. She's paying no bills, rent, food or entertainment.
Unregistered wrote: » She does pay, for the most part, for her own clothes and make up.
Unregistered wrote: » She does contrubute in other ways, the house is always clean and she does the laundry.
Unregistered wrote: » When I say, "won't" I don't mean can't. She really has made no effort to get a job.
Unregistered wrote: » I have a two bedroom and sub-let one of the rooms to a lodger. Our out of pocket rent is €800 per month, so technically it would be €400 each but, again, I'd have to pay the same if she wasn't living with me.
peanuthead wrote: » I dont think you should do this either. First things first, stop subsidizing her sisters deposit for a house. I know how easy it is if you OH is struggling with money to just give her some and pay for things. But you need to show her that its not going to work. You need to make her realise that having no money has certain consequences. Now it will be hard on you for a while too, but for now, no cinema, going out for a drink, brand named foods, dinner out etc... because "we just can't afford it dear" She will soon rethink her choice then. As a matter of interest where are you guys living at the moment? With parents/ apart/ renting?
MagicMarker wrote: » And you think she's not using you?.......... Seriously?
sprinklesspanky wrote: » Very true, but I am not ready to give an ultimatum and I find they can be counter-productive.
sprinklesspanky wrote: » Very true, but I am not ready to give an ultimatum and I find they can be counter-productive. It would be one thing if she was on the dole, at least that would be some sort of money coming in.
sprinklesspanky wrote: » all in all she's probably costing me €600 per month
Beruthiel wrote: » I personally wouldn't and couldn't live with someone who wasn't pulling their equal share of the weight. They would be told in no uncertain terms that they either do so or walk because I'm not working my ass off for two people. Tell her straight.
tbh wrote: » she's not going to change unless she wants to. You're not going to be able to deal with her unless she changes. So, if I were in your shoes, I would sit her down and say "look, it's very important for me that you are earning. I find myself losing respect for you just sitting around doing nothing, and I can't go out with a girl I don't respect. You're perfectly entitled to carry on living your life the way you are now, but you should know that I won't be a part of it any more if you do". And then, whatever she says, you should respect it. It's important that you talk about this. I don't know if you have already or not. I can understand that you are angry about this,and probably getting angrier all the time as you have arguments with her in your head but for all you know, maybe she's just waiting for a couple of months before she does x,y,z. Probably not, like, but you should establish that first. Like I say, she's perfectly entitled to live her life this way. But maybe she would feel that she would rather get a job than lose you. You won't know until you ask her, but you should be prepared to leave if she doesn't want to change. If she doesn't want to change, then it's down to you to see if you can accept her as she is or not.
justamilk wrote: » You say she's really tried to get a job but she hasnt even made up a CV. I think the first thing to do is to sit down with her and help her to make one and help her post it on some internet job sites, iv had great success with callbacks from doing this. Id also try and talk to her sister, let her know that the 4 days of childminding a week is really hindering your girlfriends chances of finding a career. She should be encouraging her to get a job.