Sean_K wrote: » No the substances in them are legal as well.
Terrontress wrote: » You can sell industrial glue to people to stick things together. It is illegal to sell it to people to sniff it. It's illegal to sell fertiliser to make a bomb but not to fertilise a field. It's illegal to sell dodgy seeds to allow people get wasted. It's not if they are sold for other purposes.
humanji wrote: » But didn't he say mescaline was in it, and isn't that illegal?
Nehaxak wrote: » Would be better if all those complaining about this instead got together and formed their own political party. We need a proper youth movement in government, at the very least to balance out the stuffy backward old muppets that are there now. Pisses me off they ban recreational drugs and drugs like Hash etc., are still illegal.
Sean_K wrote: » I was referring to the seeds which as far as I know, only contain legal chemicals
The stuff targeted were cacti and seeds of decorative flowering plants. The cacti contain mescaline, but are sold as biological samples, not for consumption.
super_furry wrote: » Dental plan?
Hammered hippie wrote: » The coordinated raids today on the Headshops had no legal backing. All the products seized were legal. The issue here was not whether the Headhsops were dealing legal or illegal stuff. It was an act of intimidation by the politicians in Dublin and should be treated as such. When shops that sell stuff that is not illegal by law are attacked by the force that has to uphold the law and justice one can basically eat the lawbooks of Ireland and prepare for the worst, especially when such an act turns out to be ordered by politicians. The policeforce was used as the strong arm of politicians today to make a point and intimidate where politicians could not succeed by using the law. The media was also invited to this pogrom so this lashout by Dublin politicians would not go unnoticed. Unfortunately for the politicians two institutions will not see kindly upon such an abuse of power. Judges and the EU. Judges in Ireland could be influenced, but to be member of the EU it is absolutely paramount that there be a strict line between politicians and legislature/policeforce. When the law doesnot allow it politicians are not allowed to enforce their will by using the type of measure they took today. Apparently unlawfull intimidation by ruling politicians is not restricted to countries like Russia or Bellarus.
Ponster wrote: » So 'headshop' is some sort of Dublin slang for a place that sells drugs?
The Real B-man wrote: » I hope those shops do become ilegal i mean they sell everything to grow produce & take drugs bar the actual drug itself.
humanji wrote: » Wait, so there's seeds with illegal substances in them, but it should be ok because since they were not sold as consumable nobody would ever think to consume them?
Hammered hippie wrote: » Yeah...The Irish healthboard is the slave of the big pharmaceuticals Everything that works beneficial to anyone will be banned...unless we can pay for it. Illegal **** like mushroom pills can be bought at the Pharmacy as a pick me up. Soon plant life will be banned from Ireland to prevent people plucking the stuff themselves. But not lead in the galway water.......that is allowed. Unfortunately politcians in Ireland are absolute slaves of big money. Worse than on mainland Europe...way worse. A nice diner here..a factory there..et voila...legislation is adapted to ban a range of certain products.
dSTAR wrote: » If you don't know what a Headshop is don't parade your ignorance and assume it is a Dublin slang term for a store that sells illegal drugs. We have Headshops in Australia and they are allowed to operate without police intimidation or raids. In fact if you go to any of these New Age, Mind, Body Spirit expos you will most likely see one or two of them doing brisk trade with people who wish to experience altered states of awareness without the illegality factor. Nothing threatening about that.
Stekelly wrote: » Theres nothign threatening about rich people taking heroin or cocaine in the privacy of their own homes. Unfortunately it's not only people who can afford to do so quietly and fund it themsleves that take them.
PeakOutput wrote: » that wasnt his point head shops have nothing to do with cocaine or heroin to think so is complete ignorance
Stekelly wrote: » Analogy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
nothing above is addictive ad therefore anytalk about heroin and cocaine or any other drug like that is completely irrelevant and off topic
dSTAR wrote: » If you don't know what a Headshop is don't parade your ignorance and assume it is a Dublin slang term for a store that sells illegal drugs.
Ponster wrote: » And you sir can go **** yourself you ignorant prick I had never heard of the expression in my entire life and based on the posts before mine i was normal to assume that it was referring to a store, in Dublin, that sold drugs. The Report post button is <-- that way
Hammered hippie wrote: » The publicity generated is good. But the fact that politicians can just order some act of intimidation where the law doesnot help them in their efforts to make front page upstanding citizen appearance is frightening. It boils down to this: If you annoy a powerfull person in politics or they can increase their electorate then they will send the guards at you irrespective of whether you did something unlawfull or not. Bit like Russia but then with a bit more backing of the general public, since it is all about how much political votes can be generated out of such an action.
PeakOutput wrote: » they mainly sell paraphenalia for smoking marijuana and also sell legal equivalants of marijuana usualy i think some used to sell mushrooms when it was legal to do so(was it legal to do it in ireland or was that just britain?) and so they will probably have legal hallucinagens too nothing above is addictive ad therefore anytalk about heroin and cocaine or any other drug like that is completely irrelevant and off topic
Hammered hippie wrote: » Yeah...The Irish healthboard is the slave of the big pharmaceuticals Everything that works benificial to anyone will be banned...unless we can pay for it. However, Illegal stuff like mushroom pills can be bought at the Pharmacy as a pick me up ,without prescription. Even if the same stuff cannot be sold in a Headshop in its non consumer form Soon plant life will be banned from Ireland to prevent people plucking the stuff themselves. But not lead in the galway water.......that is allowed. Unfortunately politcians in Ireland are absolute slaves of big money. Worse than on mainland Europe...way worse. A nice diner here..a factory there..et voila...legislation is adapted to ban a range of certain products. Politics here in Ireland is a joke performed by a bunch of clowns compared to a real democracy! Hear Hear Hear.....I shout the loudest of the land.. Hihihiahahahaaaa (sorry..but that is so very silly...shouting in cabinet..what do they think??...what are they thinking?..)
Hammered hippie wrote: » @Traumadoc The dealers of illegal stuff have lost a lot of merchandise Stuff they sold was quite dodgy at times Most customers in Headshops value and respect the fact that the stuff there is legal. !
