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Fallout 3

Maximilian

Now that we've finally got our hands on a follow-up to System Shock, the other game I've been waiting for for years is this one.

There's an interesting interview here on Eurogamer

Personally, I have a lot of confidence that they won't mess it up.

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dreamers75

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

WORD OF WARNING. Dont take the perk that causes enemies to burst randomly, gore or something its called, its ****, ruins the satisfaction of dismembering an enemy with a head shot etc.

Bloody mess, its a bit crap alright

B0X

I really want to buy this but I am quite sick at the moment and can't really make it to the shops. I'm pretty tempted to get it off steam but its $60, how does that compare the the PC version in lets say Game or Virgin?

Stercus Accidit

Just completed the main quest, played on hard rather than very hard.

I'm looking forward to playing the side quests, which is a good sign.

I was really drawn into this game, the world is so convincing, definitely recommended.

WORD OF WARNING. Dont take the perk that causes enemies to burst randomly, gore or something its called, its ****, ruins the satisfaction of dismembering an enemy with a head shot etc.

ghouldaddy07

dreamers75 wrote: »

Its a poster on the wall in the museum of tech, took me a while to spot it. need to get to it via the subway system

Cheers you saved the ps3 from getting an almighty Boot.

While im at it can anyone tell me the best route to get to Galaxy news radio I never bothered with it during the main quest and I swear ive gone through every fecking metro tunnel imaginable.

dreamers75

ghouldaddy07 wrote: »

Anyone know where I can find
the poster of lincon I cleared the building of slavers but the fecking quest marker just drags me back to the union who keep asking for the poster.

Its a poster on the wall in the museum of tech, took me a while to spot it. need to get to it via the subway system

Krieg

Regarding the karma system and the town of Andale

You should be allowed to kill those families and gain karma, then again I guess they are are so gee gosh darn nice that cannibalism is only considered a minor personality flaw in the world.

ghouldaddy07

Anyone know where I can find

the poster of lincon I cleared the building of slavers but the fecking quest marker just drags me back to the union who keep asking for the poster.

dreamers75

ShaneU wrote: »

Is killing their leader the only way to stop them from hunting you?

Havent seen them since but like to know who put out the contract, as i was just lucky finding their base.

ShaneU

Vegeta wrote: »

That doesn't make it any better. I still don't like its implementation.

If it was truly to stick to the Karma ideal, wouldn't you get negative karma points for killing things.

A wandering scavenger attacked me, his name and health bar were even in red and I got bad karma for it?

ShaneU

dreamers75 wrote: »

The contract Talon guys:mad:, one of my favourite moments was stumbling
upon their base in Fort Bannister, they died....they all died horrible horible deaths, their leader got fistod!!!

Is killing their leader the only way to stop them from hunting you?

dreamers75

The contract Talon guys:mad:, one of my favourite moments was stumbling

upon their base in Fort Bannister, they died....they all died horrible horible deaths, their leader got fistod!!!

Question regards Mr Burke ,i killed him by accident just after he asked to do his quest. Is there any more quests from him if you do the original one?

ShiverinEskimo

pwd wrote: »

How resource hungry is it? Compared to bioshock, the witcher, orange box games, quake 4?
I've an xps with a 2.4ghz dual core processor, 4 gig ram (32-bit os though), good version of nvidia 8600m gpu.
The game sounds superb.

edit: i see others have asked the same thing... http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallout3/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-46266756&pid=918428

Similar spec to mine and I'm running everything on high at 1280z1024 and it's running about 45/50 fps. You should be fine.

Vegeta

Maximilian wrote: »

Intuition if you will. Shiftyness. Evil smirk. Hex editor.

or "a wizard did it"

Well I could come back with an argument like, how did

Mr. Burke, who is pure evil,

slip through their highly tuned intuition filters but I feel I am on my own here so will let it be

pwd

How resource hungry is it? Compared to bioshock, the witcher, orange box games, quake 4?
I've an xps with a 2.4ghz dual core processor, 4 gig ram (32-bit os though), good version of nvidia 8600m gpu.
The game sounds superb.

edit: i see others have asked the same thing... http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallout3/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-46266756&pid=918428

Maximilian

Intuition if you will. Shiftyness. Evil smirk. Hex editor.

Vegeta

Climate Expert wrote: »

It's a game man, not a real life simulator. Just assume that they can sense your badness.

:rolleyes:

Climate Expert

Lets say you ate a baby for breakfast. I meet you for the first time a few hours later and I know, somehow, through cosmic channels, that you're a baby eater. Just seems......wrong. It doesn't sit right with me.

It's a game man, not a real life simulator. Just assume that they can sense your badness.

Vegeta

Maximilian wrote: »

I don't see the problem with the system. Just because nobody saw you steal that item doesn't mean you didn't do wrong.

I don't really have a problem with that bit, if you're play it evil, well then let the story take some turns based on that or your luck suffers or you are reborn as a rad roach when you die.

My issue arises with people, NPCs, judging you on Karma level (haven't seen it happen but guys above talking bout it). Can they see your karmic aura or something?

Lets say you ate a baby for breakfast. I meet you for the first time a few hours later and I know, somehow, through cosmic channels, that you're a baby eater. Just seems......wrong. It doesn't sit right with me.

Now I may be wrong in my assumptions of how the system works, I'm just going on what others have said above, have not encountered it first hand.

If you play a thief, the goal is to rob things without getting caught, with this system you always get caught just a little bit (unless there is some perk to prevent negative karma got from using a five finger discount)

I just know I would not have put that in if it were me or changed the way it works

Again it will not stop me playing the game but its just an aspect I don't like and would change if possible

Maximilian

I don't really worry about Karma. Whatever happens happens. Sometimes, you just want to shoot somebody in the head because they annoyed you. Sometimes, you just want to set a nuke off.

I don't see the problem with the system. Just because nobody saw you steal that item doesn't mean you didn't do wrong.

Vegeta

Mantel wrote: »

You do, except for the Evil npc's

http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/wiki/Fallout_3_Karma

I suppose most of the bandits/raiders would be just Evil instead of Very evil or netural.

All things not just what the game considers to be evil. Killing is killing in the eyes of karma I'd imagine

Don't get me wrong now, I like the game but I think the bastardised version of karma is just not needed in the game.

Maximilian

I haven't played it all that long but I think it's great so far. Even the side quests feel like thought has gone into them. It has lots of little moments that make the game seem alive.

For example, I was kind of low on health and being chased by a super mutant and some Centaur I think. Both were injured but I was low on ammo and health. I ran over a bridge trying to get some distance and when I looked back suddenly, the SM falls over dead. Some raiders had arrived on the scene and finished them off. I repayed their kindness with lead.

Its stuff like that I appreciate. The comparisons to Oblivion can be made but this is a much better game than Oblivion. I think Bethesda recognised the flaws in their earlier game and set out to fix them. Plus it feels like Fallout. They nailed that part.

Mantel

Vegeta wrote: »

That doesn't make it any better. I still don't like its implementation.

If it was truly to stick to the Karma ideal, wouldn't you get negative karma points for killing things.

You do, except for the Evil npc's

http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/wiki/Fallout_3_Karma

I suppose most of the bandits/raiders would be just Evil instead of Very evil or netural.

Vegeta

TomCo wrote: »

Thats because its Karma.

That doesn't make it any better. I still don't like its implementation.

If it was truly to stick to the Karma ideal, wouldn't you get negative karma points for killing things.

Krieg

TomCo wrote: »

Im playing as a good guy,
I have a contract out on my head (literally) for being a goody two shoes so I get harrassed by roving bands of merc's.

Aye, same here.
Bastards were tough the first couple of encounters but easily handled now

TomCo

Krieg wrote: »

Whats the consequence of Karma? Is it relevant to the ending?

I think the next time I play, Im going to be strictly an asshole, Killing npc's, robbing everything i can

Im playing as a good guy,

I have a contract out on my head (literally) for being a goody two shoes so I get harrassed by roving bands of merc's.

TomCo

Vegeta wrote: »

Even if you steal something and no one sees you it has a negative impact on their opinion of you. That makes no fcuking sense. Fair enough if people see you stealing or killing people and their opinion of you goes down.

Thats because its Karma.

Krieg

Whats the consequence of Karma? Is it relevant to the ending?

I think the next time I play, Im going to be strictly an asshole, Killing npc's, robbing everything i can

Mantel

Vegeta wrote: »

After seeing this being played/playing it for 2-3 hours last night, I do like it.

Don't like the Karma system implementation though. Even if you steal something and no one sees you it has a negative impact on their opinion of you. That makes no fcuking sense. Fair enough if people see you stealing or killing people and their opinion of you goes down. Basing their opinions on something that no one even knows about doesn't sit right with me.

Think of Karma as how you act

The more of an asshole you are the more you'll act like one. If karma was based on peoples opinions of you then you'd be netural in every new place you visited.

Krieg

Very likely to be game of the year.

I wasn't very impressed in the first couple of hours, but really enjoying it now.

Vegeta

After seeing this being played/playing it for 2-3 hours last night, I do like it.

Don't like the Karma system implementation though. Even if you steal something and no one sees you it has a negative impact on their opinion of you. That makes no fcuking sense. Fair enough if people see you stealing or killing people and their opinion of you goes down. Basing their opinions on something that no one even knows about doesn't sit right with me.

The game does a lot of things right though.

Might be an xmas purchase to get me through the holidays.