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Organ donating

TPD

Does anybody else think that each person, when they die, should automatically have their organs put up for donation? Loads of lives would be saved.

Of course, there can be an opt-out during their lifetime. It seems to me that most people aren't donors simply because they can't be bothered becoming one, rather than any opposition to the practice. This way, you're a donor unless you can be bothered to get off the list.

Your opinions, AHers?

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buckieburd

TPD wrote: »

Does anybody else think that each person, when they die, should automatically have their organs put up for donation? Loads of lives would be saved.

Of course, there can be an opt-out during their lifetime. It seems to me that most people aren't donors simply because they can't be bothered becoming one, rather than any opposition to the practice. This way, you're a donor unless you can be bothered to get off the list.

Your opinions, AHers?

I think it's a great idea, cant understand why anyone would object to it, who cares if yer missing a kidney when yer dead!!

Also I think everyone should be made to give blood.

Mind you I cant donate my Organs or give blood in Ireland in case I give ye all Mad Cow Disease....

AnonoBoy

TPD wrote: »

Does anybody else think that each person, when they die, should automatically have their organs put up for donation? Loads of lives would be saved.

Of course, there can be an opt-out during their lifetime. It seems to me that most people aren't donors simply because they can't be bothered becoming one, rather than any opposition to the practice. This way, you're a donor unless you can be bothered to get off the list.

Your opinions, AHers?

Now I like pickles but can you imagine getting the liver off one of them lads in the BGRH forum? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

No thanks.

Vain

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Now I like pickles but can you imagine getting the liver off one of them lads in the BGRH forum? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

No thanks.

So you would rather die?:rolleyes:

Kold

Only if I get to choose what they're donated too. Hungry Ethiopians munching my balls ftw.

Kiera

I'd say all my organs are pretty much fucked from the abuse i've given them over my 29 years.

Robbo

A taxi driver told me that illegal immigrant asylum seeker migrants are being flown in on Learjets to get their hands on our precious Irish organs and pick up a dole payment at the same time.

They get grants for 3 free livers, a Mercedes S-Class, a seat on the board of any Quango of their choice and a voucher for cosmetic surgery of their choice.

It sickens me so much that I've vomited over the keyboard 3 times writing this.

Havermeyer

I have an old Casio Tonebank if anyone needs one?!

Burial

No. I don't want to be forced to opt-in. Everyone who wants to let people harvest themselves when they die can do it by opting-in. I'm not letting people violate me when I die. I don't want me liver/kidney to goto a drunk because he's just going to abuse it. I want it to goto someone who deserves it. Besides if Ireland had an "opt-out" it'd mean alot more people would be "murdered" and alot more people would come here to get there liver/kidney/etc. It'd be better if the world did an opt-out, but noone will.

Overheal

Im a donor myself, but I dont think it should be automatically inclusive.

AARRRGH

I'm gonna donate my penis to yore ma.

/Obligatory

AnonoBoy

Vain wrote: »

So you would rather die?:rolleyes:

Too bad somebody didn't die and donate you their sense of humour.

hot2def

my blood is not good enough for them, I assume my organs are the same.

MagicMarker

I'm not 'officially' a donor, but i would be if i cared enough.

Makes sense though, instead of carrying a card around saying ''donor'' you should have to carry one saying ''fúck off'', if that is indeed the case.

thelordofcheese

Burial wrote: »

No. I don't want to be forced to opt-in. Everyone who wants to let people harvest themselves when they die can do it by opting-in. I'm not letting people violate me when I die. I don't want me liver/kidney to goto a drunk because he's just going to abuse it. I want it to goto someone who deserves it. Besides if Ireland had an "opt-out" it'd mean alot more people would be "murdered" and alot more people would come here to get there liver/kidney/etc. It'd be better if the world did an opt-out, but noone will.

It *should* be an opt out system as opposed to the current opt-in.

Also, organ donation doesn't work how you think it works.

xzanti

I keep filling in the cards and then loosing them :rolleyes:.. Is there a way of becoming an official donar online or something?

Overheal

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm not 'officially' a donor, but i would be if i cared enough.

Makes sense though, instead of carrying a card around saying ''donor'' you should have to carry one saying ''fúck off'', if that is indeed the case.

On your drivers license application over here you just check a box stating whether you want to be a donor or not. if you do they put a little red Heart on your license.

Cookie_Monster

Is it not enough the you have to work for the majority of your life and pay over huge amounts of tax. Give, give, give

Leave me to death in (one) peace:D

Burial

@thelordofcheese: What if I lose the card and they take my organs when I die? Will there be a database of people who don't want to give their organs away, so the public can see it? How about if I wear a necklace/bracelet/card for the rest of my life saying I'm not an organ donor? No. I don't want to be forced to leave my organs to the state and they have no right to take them from me. For all those who want to opt-in, you opt-in. I don't want my organs taken from me, by "mistake" when I die..

Also, if Ireland was the only country where everyone had to opt-out, I guarantee you, they'll be more lenient in who they give organs to. Why wouldn't an alcoholic with failed kidneys be allowed some when they have a few lying around that a bunch of dead people won't mind he takes? I wasn't talking about the current affairs of how they give out organs.

thelordofcheese

Burial wrote: »

@thelordofcheese: What if I lose the card and they take my organs when I die? Will there be a database of people who don't want to give their organs away, so the public can see it? How about if I wear a necklace/bracelet/card for the rest of my life saying I'm not an organ donor? No. I don't want to be forced to leave my organs to the state and they have no right to take them from me. For all those who want to opt-in, you opt-in. I don't want my organs taken from me, by "mistake" when I die..

Also, if Ireland was the only country where everyone had to opt-out, I guarantee you, they'll be more lenient in who they give organs to. Why wouldn't an alcoholic with failed kidneys be allowed some when they have a few lying around that a bunch of dead people won't mind he takes? I wasn't talking about the current affairs of how they give out organs.

your slippery-slope argument is silly, it does not take into account things like suitability of the match between you an a given person as well as the suitability of you as a doner.
In a Opt-out system there would potentially be more organs availbale for those that need it, not a massive surplus of kidneys so anyone can get a replacement at a drop of a hat.
Stop talking nonsense, it pains me.

Also, you're dead, who gives two shits what happens to that slowly decaying lump of meat we used to call you? fuckkit, take 'em all, i won't need it where i'm going (which is into the ground to rot)

Cookie_Monster

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Also, you're dead, who gives two shits what happens to that slowly decaying lump of meat we used to call you? fuckkit, take 'em all, i won't need it where i'm going (which is into the ground to rot)

why do you assume all people will be buried?

I for one want to be fed to the penguins in Dublin zoo:D

Pompey Magnus

Burial wrote: »

I don't want my organs taken from me, by "mistake" when I die..

Out of interest, why not? You won't be needing them and they could help save a life, true it might go to an alcoholic who would waste them but then it might also go to a genuine person who could live a productive life.

HammerHeadGym

I came up with a solution for this years ago. People should have 2 options;

1) I am an organ donor. When I die, the medical profession can help themselves to whatever bits of me they need. If I have an accident, I am entitled to the bank of organs that are currently in storage.

2) I am not a donor. No one is allowed to take anything from my body, before or after I die. Due to my lack of contribution to the scheme, I am not entitled to replacement organs for any reason.

Same should go for blood. Why on earth people can't spare an hour, every 3 months is nothing short of self- centered indifference.

If that was the law, I imagine there'd be plenty of everything to go round by the new year.

Cookie_Monster

Charco wrote: »

Out of interest, why not? You won't be needing them and they could help save a life, true it might go to an alcoholic who would waste them but then it might also go to a genuine person who could live a productive life.

Cus dere mine, MINE, mine i say!
You here that? MINE

Cookie_Monster

HammerHeadGym wrote: »

I came up with a solution for this years ago. People should have 2 options;

1) I am an organ donor. When I die, the medical profession can help themselves to whatever bits of me they need. If I have an accident, I am entitled to the bank of organs that are currently in storage.

2) I am not a donor. No one is allowed to take anything from my body, before or after I die. Due to my lack of contribution to the scheme, I am not entitled to replacement organs for any reason.

Same should go for blood. Why on earth people can't spare an hour, every 3 months is nothing short of self- centered indifference.

If that was the law, I imagine there'd be plenty of everything to go round by the new year.

Thats a pretty good idea actually. I think it would work.

However what about those people that, for whatever reason, were unsuitable to donate? Rare genetic conditions, given dodgy blood products by the health service etc?

Trojan911

TPD wrote: »

Does anybody else think that each person, when they die, should automatically have their organs put up for donation? Your opinions, AHers?

No, not for that idea. If people want to donate then that's their choice. My choice is not to donate organs.

I used to donate blood when I lived in London, but when I came back here they refused it until I had been in the country for X amount of years, so now I don't bother anymore.

EL_Loco

prize bonds type scheme:

you sign up as an organ donor (into a system yet to exist

), they take say 5,000 off the lotto grand prize. Every week there's a donor's prize. If you win and accept the money you're allowing your organs to be harvested when you die. On your death the system can be checked and see if you're registered, or if you've ever accepted the donor's prize.

If you do want to donate you can mark your drivers license on the back, there's 2 tick boxes.
Let your family, next of kin know, these are the people who are asked if the hospital can't determine if you want to donate or not. This goes for people who don't want to donate also. Let your family know.
Carry a donor card. How often are you close to a chemist? usually they're up at the counter. fill it in, stick it in your wallet and that's it.

Opting in is quite easy. Please do it. Been going 6 years on a borrowed kidney I hope everyone who needs a transplant can get the luck I did, but of course it takes donors to make it happen.

Overheal

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Thats a pretty good idea actually. I think it would work.

However what about those people that, for whatever reason, were unsuitable to donate? Rare genetic conditions, given dodgy blood products by the health service etc?

Or, were too young to declare themselves donors and suddenly found themselves in need of a new kidney.

Burial

@HammerHeadGym: My mother cannot donate blood. What would happen her? And to do that your forcing people to do things they don't want to do. I don't want to give my blood away, that doesn't mean I should die for not wanting to do it.

@Charco: I don't want to give my organs away. I don't have to provide a reason but I don't want to opt-in as is because I prefer to die with my organs. I want to be intact. I want to be me when I die. I don't want to be a hollow.

@thelordofcheese:

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your slippery-slope argument is silly, it does not take into account things like suitability of the match between you an a given person as well as the suitability of you as a doner.

wtf? That had nothing to do with my arguements..

wrote:

In a Opt-out system there would potentially be more organs availbale for those that need it, not a massive surplus of kidneys so anyone can get a replacement at a drop of a hat.
Stop talking nonsense, it pains me.

Actually, there would need to be a surplus of kidneys to guarantee everyone who needed a kidney would get one. you can never say ok, this year we'll need 4000 kidneys to be ok. You can guess. You'll always have people coming in and you WILL have a surplus of whatever. As you said if you had a perfect 1:1 ratio then people who reject kidneys and whatnot would need another, thereby being under the 1:1 ratio. I'm not the one talking nonsense.

wrote:

Also, you're dead, who gives two ****s what happens to that slowly decaying lump of meat we used to call you? ****kit, take 'em all, i won't need it where i'm going (which is into the ground to rot)

I do. I care what happens to me. I presume because you don't care what happens to you when you die, I can have all your possessions? Or do you care about who they go to? Hypocrite.

Silenceisbliss

if theydele was the recipient....id done her my organ...

not like im gonna get it back anyway....id prob get it bitten off....

HAHA....I MAKE JOKE!

Burial

In Soviet Russia, joke makes YOU!!!!