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Man fined for smoking in own Van in UK

DJ_Spider

Looks like the English need educating on where smoking bans are enforced!

http://tinyurl.com/6mat8v

Big Brother is watching!

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Dinter

DJ_Spider wrote: »

Looks like the English need educating on where smoking bans are enforced!

http://tinyurl.com/6mat8v

Big Brother is watching!

That's mad. Even if they could legally fine him for it it's a bit overboard.

milod

That's just class. I was caught shagging in a van a few years ago and got away with a warning. Lucky I hadn't finished up and pulled out the Bensons, eh? I mean 30 seconds later and I'd have been fined

pickarooney

Why would you pay a fine when you haven't done anything wrong?

biko

I would assume that his van is considered his place of work.
Smoking in place of work = fine.
Cabbies can't smoke either, nor truckers.

PurpleBerry

Think about all those poor people who work from home

What about if you're DJing at a house party? Is that a workplace then? Are you, and everyone else, not allowed to smoke? Even the legal stuff?

pickarooney

Unless he paints and decorates primarily inside his own van, that's nonsense. It's a private vehicle.

Steve_o

pickarooney wrote: »

Unless he paints and decorates primarily inside his own van, that's nonsense. It's a private vehicle.

Was it his van or a company van??

His Van = No Fine
Company Van = Fine

Canis Lupus

Dunno if it's the same in Ireland but yeah, in the UK if the vehicle is a company vehicle then you are not allowed smoke in it.

In saying that the police usually aren't complete pricks and don't hand out this fine without a reason (lets face it the police could stand on a busy street corner and pretty much stop every second car/van and slap them with the no smoking fine cos everyone still does it, if they wanted to) and I would suspect he got slapped with the fine because he probably acted the gobshyte. The report also states he was stopped in a routine check but I would think perhaps he was probably pulled for some other misdemeanour (sp?).

All speculation of course.

arybvtcw0eolkf

pickarooney wrote: »

Unless he paints and decorates primarily inside his own van, that's nonsense. It's a private vehicle.

Unless its registered and taxed as a commercial vehicle, or do they have that in the UK?.

ibh

Mairt wrote: »

Unless its registered and taxed as a commercial vehicle, or do they have that in the UK?.

I don't think that matters. If you only use the van as a means of transport you can smoke in it iirc.
Anyone can buy a van and the tax and insurance must be for a commercial vehicle. It doesn't mean that it cant be used for personal; reasons.

arybvtcw0eolkf

ibh wrote: »

I don't think that matters. If you only use the van as a means of transport you can smoke in it iirc.
Anyone can buy a van and the tax and insurance must be for a commercial vehicle. It doesn't mean that it cant be used for personal; reasons.

A commercial vehicle is your place or someone else's places of employment, its why there's tax breaks etc on it.

How the user uses it is besides the point.

I see these laws flaunted here all the time by taxi drivers, it annoys the heck out of me. I got a taxi recently, got in - smelled the smoke and got out again. Told the guy I couldn't use his cab, he got strappy about it 'fvck you Pal' etc.

Anyway, the laws the law and while it doesn't suit us to obey them all the time when we're caught there's no point in crying over it.

Latchy

Just reminds me a bit of the way Britain is going with the pc conformity brigade who one can imagine sit around tables every day ,dreaming up other ways to screw the average brit .

The latest mad idea i heard was for residence in certain parts of uk to empty their own rubbish in back of rubbish removal trucks to prevent .........wait for it ,the binmen from hurting their backs while removing bins from gates to back of truck. .The irony being it's the flipping hydraulic lifter on back of truck that lifts the heavy bins,not the binmen .If you cant pull bins from gates then you shouldent be in the job

funk-you

I had a company car in the UK and we were not allowed to smoke during paid hours. We paid benefit in kind in our tax for the private use. Eg: After 17.00 you can smoke your brains out.

The car essentially became 'a rental' after 17.00.

-Funk

FunkZ

Poor basta'd. But he probably works out of the van.