What is meth? The biggest meth bust in State history was announced by gardaí yesterday. They suggest the size of the bust indicates an organised criminal gang may be behind the operation - and could be trying to establish a market for the drug. Meth has been around for a few years in Ireland, but it has yet to become as 'popular' as it is in the UK or the US. However, many worry that could change. What Is Meth? Methamphetamine, also known as 'meth,' 'speed,' 'crank,' 'ice,' or 'hillbilly heroin', is a powerful and highly addictive stimulant that affects the central nervous system. Meth is a synthetic drug produced or sold as pills, capsules, or powder that can be smoked, snorted, injected, or swallowed. Physical Effects Methamphetamine is neurotoxic and can cause dependence and addiction psychosis, stroke, dangerously high body temperature, and cardiac arrhythmia. Withdrawal often results in severe depression and paranoia. How Meth Is Made For many years, meth was primarily imported Mexico, Canada, China, and Southeast Asia. However, access to 'meth cookbooks' on the internet has seen an increase in home-made labs or super labs which can make almost 4.5kg in 24 hours. That's because meth can be made out of everyday household products like: . Over-the-counter cough, cold, asthma, and allergy medicines containing pseudoephedrine or ephedrine . Acetone (found in nail polish remover) . Rubbing and isopropyl alcohol . Iodine . Starter fluid (ether) . Petrol additives (methanol) . Drain cleaner (sulfuric acid) . Lithium batteries . Rock salt . Matchbooks (red phosphorus) . Lye . Paint thinner . Tin foil . Glassware . Coffee filters . Propane tanks Meth labs are notoriously stinky, so they will often be set up in rural areas. Meth lab explosions are very common and often deadly, particularly in the US. Meth's Effects Meth has a detrimental effect on the human body including skin, teeth (aka 'meth rot') and emotions. Meth addicts are known to be aggressive, depressed and/or paranoid. Famous Meth Addicts Crystal Meth has rapidly become a hot drug at Hollywood parties. However, long before it got to Tinseltown, Adolf Hitler was given meth by his personal physician during the final three years of his life. Troubled actor Tom Sizemore says in a statement during his court sentencing that he was introduced to meth by famous Hollywood madame Heidi Fleiss. Fergie, the female voice of the Black Eyed Peas, told US magazine Time that meth 'was the hardest boyfriend I ever had to break up with.' Prevention Efforts The US Department of Justice declared that 30 November 2006 to be Methamphetamine Awareness Day. Meth is illegal in most countries although it can be prescribed or used in research in places like the US or Hong Kong. Source: Meth Watch
Adolf Hitler was given meth by his personal physician during the final three years of his life.
Flamed Diving wrote: » I can't wait to see the scangers stumbling around the place with their eyeballs and **** falling out. Bring on the meth, I say. Tee hee!
Larianne wrote: » No, it's a horrible sight! I saw it alot in Australia. It's big problem over there. Thing that gets people hooked is it makes them look great at the start, hair and skin looks amazing. Then, their face just starts to wear away and get scabby and scabby hands as well. So horrible.
silver haze wrote: » hillbilly herion is actualy pills like Percocet or Oxycontin, which used to come in a whopping 160mg tablet, that was recently banned. you just suck the 12hr time-release coating off and viola, a great big slap of opioid bliss. when the media cant be relied upon to even get this right, how can you thrust them to portray both the bad and good effects of meth accurately and in an unbiased manner.
Degsy wrote: » In europe its mostly controled by Hells Angels,its not a big thing in europe yet though,far more so in New zealand,Australia and the US.In Australia its known as Crank because it used to be hidden in the cranksafts of Motorbikes.Its growing in SE Asia too,where its available as little purple pills called Yaba. It can be manufatured relatively easily by distilling Ephedra,or Pseudoephadrine(cold and flu remedy).In many places you cant buy more than one packet of Sudafed for example and Ephedrine used to be contained in bodybuilding weight loss supplements,now its been removed and these products dont work!!
Dragan wrote: » The ultimate retard drug in fairness.
Mahatma coat wrote: » Meh, I'd a said that was Cocaine meself, Instant self obsessed boring arsehole - just add coke
Degsy wrote: » In Cocaine lies madness...
Roundtower2 wrote: » meth may be bad, but this was a ****e movie about it: "Spun" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283003/
AnonoBoy wrote: » Fixed that for you. Just cause the movie was about meth addicts I don't see why they felt the ned to have it edited by a meth addict. :rolleyes:
utick wrote: » with such a terrible reputation how do people end up taking it, can it be mixed in with weed, or cocaine without the users knowledge
slipss wrote: » Well people have known the reputation around heroin in this country for decades, some people still take it, same deal. You could mix it with cocaine or weed but it doesn't really happen, weed is cheap enough to make it pointless to mix meth into it, plus people looking to smoke a bit of weed and get stoned wouldn't be too happy when the meth hit them, the seller would put himself out of business in a couple of weeks. It could be mixed with coke but again what would be the point? There are more enough customers for decent coke, so cutting it with meth doesn't really give an advantage. Meth is however sold here simply as speed, or sometimes as base speed, plenty of people take it without realising that its actually meth they are taking, it has such a bad reputation that the people selling it operate a don't ask don't tell policy. More than a couple of times a friend of a freind of mine has been told by someone how XXXXXX has some briliant speed (meaning amphetamines) only to sample it and realise its crystal meth cut with glucose or new era or one of the other standard cutting agents used to dilute cocaine.
Degsy wrote: » What in the name of christ are you talking about? You dont "Mix" meth "with coke or weed". YOu havnt a clue what you're talking about. NOBODY sells methamphetamine as "speed" or "base speed". Whats sold as speed in amphetamine sulphate,a much less potent form of amphetamine. Nobody trying to shift meth woulod have to spike somebody's "weed,heroin,coke or base speed" with it because it sells itself very nicely. If i wanted some speed and i heard such-and-such had meth,i'd buy it WILLINGLY because its far stronger than other types of speed. You sound like you read a leaving-cert religeon book and jumbled the "facts" about drugs in your mind.
slipss wrote: » Well, yes, you don't mix meth with coke or weed. Thats what I said, pretty much word for word, what are you taking about. And yes, people are selling meth as speed and base speed in Ireland, for the reason I stated. Plenty of people take speed, most of these would not take meth because of the amount of negative publicity around it. Just like plenty of the people that take hcl cocaine wouldn't take crack. So they are sold meth, told its speed, realise its the best speed around and continue to purchase it. Meth does not "sell itself very nicely" in this country (just scan back through this thread to see most peoples reaction in this country when it is mentioned). Its reputation precedes it, just like with crack cocaine. The market for someone selling meth is pretty select in Ireland, most "recreational" drug users actively avoid taking it, even when its available, they've all seen the pictures posted in this thread, they've all seen the iced up bloke with the knife to the womans throat in Thailand, that is not the case with speed, its seen as no big deal, something to do for a bit of a laugh on a friday night, the market for speed is massive. Your jumbled religious leaving-cert facts argument might stand to itself if we were discussing driving a taxi, I wouldn't have the first clue about the ins and outs of taxi driving, other than what i've heard second hand or read, thats not really the case here Degsy.
Degsy wrote: » Why would a "Recreational drug user" AVOID taking a "recreational drug"?? Do you honestly,honestly mean to say that speedfreaks(of which there are not many),would have been swayed by pictures in the media NOT to take the strongest form of thier prefered drug? If only it were thats simple. What about all the pictures for the last thirty years of the damage that heroin does to you?Why hasnt THAT had the same effect? Or maybe,it actually has,and your 300 euro a day habit junkie draws the line at Afghan heroin because it supports war. The one thing that rapidly becomes obvious when you're talking about illegal drugs is that "negative publicity"(lol),doesnt influence drug users in the slightest. I've said it before and i repeat:You dont know what you're talking about.
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