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Lets rant about pubs!

Degsy

Seeing this
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315507
article over in the dublin forum has set me to thinking that if numbers of customers are really on the decline,maybe bar staff should start excercising a little bit of courtesy.Its not like drinking i pubs is a cheap pasttime any more so maybe they should stop behaving like they're dispensing Divine Unction and start treating the customers as the reason they make money not some sort of burden.Bastards.

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Degsy wrote: »

Well its either go where friends are going or sit at home brooding like Gargamel.

You do enough of that in work.

Dragan

Degsy wrote: »

Well its either go where friends are going or sit at home brooding like Gargamel.It amazes me that people even WANT to go to these kips.

That would be a great excuse to get a cat dude!

snubbleste

jcrowbar wrote: »

Frankly I don't think the vitners association should get my money, if all they're going to do with it is make more of those silly radio ads. I had to hear them on three separate occassions before i realised that they were for real!

I laughed so hard when this came on the radio the other day, i really thought it was a joke advert like the Budweiser All-American Hero ones.
At least they are unique ads!

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

Overheads have stayed the same?

Has your electricity bill stayed the same in the past year or so?

Five years?

If it has, is there any chance I can lob an extension lead into your gaf and use you electricity?

So the lecky has gone up a bit. What do the pubs do?They turn the lights down..seriously.Look at the way they're getting staff who can barely speak english,are they in a union?Are they getting the minimum wage for barstaff?Are they crap,they're cheap labour.If the publican has to stump up extra for anything,he makes it back in some other way.

john concannon

Not enough filteration to stop the pain of old men's smelly ol' farts.

IT'S AN EPIDEMIC PEOPLE!

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Degsy wrote: »

So the lecky has gone up a bit. What do the pubs do?They turn the lights down..seriously.Look at the way they're getting staff who can barely speak english,are they in a union?Are they getting the minimum wage for barstaff?Are they crap,they're cheap labour.If the publican has to stump up extra for anything,he makes it back in some other way.

Let me tell you this.

A publican who owns some seriously busy pubs in Dublin City Centre has recently decided to only hire Unionised barstaff, who have served their time, in future.

He is doing this to reduce queuing time at his bars, as he believes one properly trained bartender would get through a queue quicker than three or four imbeciles who wouldn't know a pint glass from a slim jim.

Clink

Degsy wrote: »

Well its either go where friends are going or sit at home brooding like Gargamel.It amazes me that people even WANT to go to these kips.

Why then don't you just invite these friends over to your house?

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Clink wrote: »

Why then don't you just invite these friends over to your house?

You obv don't know where Degsy lives :pac:

ibh

In fairness if i want someone to be nice to me i'll move to America and everyone can give me a "have a nice fcuking day" in every establishment i go to.

Theres nothing wrong with being semi ignorant with customers. I worked behind the bar for years and if you're too nice to people they think they can tell you all their problems. If someone is ignorant to you, just be ignorant in return. Or go somewhere else.

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

You obv don't know where Degsy lives :pac:

Well you wont be darkening my door again son!:pac:

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

Let me tell you this.

A publican who owns some seriously busy pubs in Dublin City Centre has recently decided to only hire Unionised barstaff, who have served their time, in future.

He is doing this to reduce queuing time at his bars, as he believes one properly trained bartender would get through a queue quicker than three or four imbeciles who wouldn't know a pint glass from a slim jim.

One publican has decided to do this?Thats progress for ya..either that or the untrained staff were costing him money somehow.

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Degsy wrote: »

One publican

This particular publican/group owns a serious amount of pubs in Dublin City Centre.

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

This particular publican/group owns a serious amount of pubs in Dublin City Centre.

Well you may be sure he's doing it for his own ends and absolutely not to benefit the customer.

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Degsy wrote: »

Well you may be sure he's doing it for his own ends and absolutely not to benefit the customer.

ffs.

You give about the foreign staff, and you bellyache when someone decides not to hire foreign staff.

jcrowbar

snubbleste wrote: »

I laughed so hard when this came on the radio the other day, i really thought it was a joke advert like the Budweiser All-American Hero ones.
At least they are unique ads!

I was sure they were replaying Gift grub.

Seriously, if this is the sort of ****e they can come up with, then there's no hope.

Clearly they were intended to be funny, but they're funny for all the wrong reasons. I feel sorry for the folk who put their time into making them.

Pathetic, simple as.

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

ffs.

You give about the foreign staff, and you bellyache when someone decides not to hire foreign staff.

So "foreign" and "trained" are mutually exclusive?

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Degsy wrote: »

So "foreign" and "trained" are mutually exclusive?

I never said that.

But I wouldn't imagine many foreigners have recognised bar-trade apprenticeships done, would you?

kraggy

funk-you wrote: »

Vote with your feet people. I can't understand why people queue up outside places to be talked down to, started on and given piss poor quality drinks while at the same time handing over half their weeks wages for the privilage.

I've no problem spending the money for drinks if the extra that they are charging goes on what it is meant to(service/good surroundings/atmosphere).

Go somewhere you feel welcome ffs and quit yer bitchin'.

-Funk

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People accept it, whether in a restaurant or a bar, and then complain about it on the way home.

Things will never change in this country because of it.

And any foreign friends of mine have always said that if the staff in their country e.g. Australia, Spain, acted like that, they'd be fired on the spot.

That's because people there won't accept it. But we will.

We feel like we've no right to complain about poor service even though it's US that are paying for it.

Degsy

DesF wrote: »

I never said that.

But I wouldn't imagine many foreigners have recognised bar-trade apprenticeships done, would you?

It depends what you mean by foreigners.There's been people coming in appreciable numbers for ten years or more,surley some of them would've done the apprenticeship.What i was refering to are the people who havnt got a bloody clue and are only hired because the publican finds it cheap to do so.

HitlersHorsebox

I don't drink in pubs any more. I sneak cans into abrakebabra with a few mates and drink while no ones looking. The music is always pumping and they open later than pubs. 12 cans for 14 Euro and your already at the top of the queue. what more can anyone ask for?

kraggy

HitlersHorsebox wrote: »

I don't drink in pubs any more. I sneak cans into abrakebabra with a few mates and drink while no ones looking. The music is always pumping and they open later than pubs. 12 cans for 14 Euro and your already at the top of the queue. what more can anyone ask for?

ints ints ints ints....TUNES!!!!!

Jigsaw

Yeah, a few bars like that in Belfast, where you almost feel you have to excuse yourself for asking for a pint.

There is one bar in particular where I can recall standing at the bar, maybe 3 others sitting at the already drinking. Bar is about 10 metres long and there are two members of staff having a conversation behind the bar. They both see me but continue their conversation until a suitable point for a break and then come over to serve me. That pi$$es me off. Yet if I lost my temper and threw an empty pint glass at them I would be the villain!!!

Degsy

Jigsaw wrote: »

Yeah, a few bars like that in Belfast, where you almost feel you have to excuse yourself for asking for a pint.

There is one bar in particular where I can recall standing at the bar, maybe 3 others sitting at the already drinking. Bar is about 10 metres long and there are two members of staff having a conversation behind the bar. They both see me but continue their conversation until a suitable point for a break and then come over to serve me. That pi$$es me off. Yet if I lost my temper and threw an empty pint glass at them I would be the villain!!!

There's a pub in Dublin where they have policy that if you stand in a ceratin area you'll be ignored.it turns out this is the "service area" where presumably something but "service" actually happens.I remember standing there without realisng what was going on for ten minutes,there were three people serving,it wasnt busy in the slightest and nobody bothered to tell me i wouldnt get served there.Ignorant clowns.

Dragan

Degsy wrote: »

It depends what you mean by foreigners.There's been people coming in appreciable numbers for ten years or more,surley some of them would've done the apprenticeship.What i was refering to are the people who havnt got a bloody clue and are only hired because the publican finds it cheap to do so.

Students?

ART6

I don't go into pubs any more. Ever since the smoking ban I can't stand the smell of body odour in 'em.:(

Degsy

Dragan wrote: »

Students?

That and people looking for work and willing to do it for half nothing.

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Degsy wrote: »

Well you may be sure he's doing it for his own ends and absolutely not to benefit the customer.

Human nature (not just publicans), it's been like that for centuries.

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest

shane86

Degsy wrote: »

You think the publicans havnt factored all that into the equation?Show me a poor publican,i'd love to see one.Reminds me of the late owner of Kennedys in drumcondra.He was so eager to keep his overheads down he used to rinse used lemons under the tap and put them back in the bowl.He paid the lounge-girl 14 quid a night and he left two million when he died.

My cousin worked in one of Charlie Chawkes pubs.

The fact he was shot and wounded in a robbery while personally removing 50grand from one of his pubs (rather than pay Securicor to do it) says it all really.

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Weatherspoons are the greatest pubs going.

Can't beat beer and a burger!

There were plans to open a reasonably priced one on Capel Street. Did the other pubs object to the licence?

Terry

shane86 wrote: »

My cousin worked in one of Charlie Chawkes pubs.

The fact he was shot and wounded in a robbery while personally removing 50grand from one of his pubs (rather than pay Securicor to do it) says it all really.

There were plans to open a reasonably priced one on Capel Street. Did the other pubs object to the licence?

Has anyone been on Capel street since it was bombed in the 70's?