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Where did TV license inspector get my name from?

Todoquetengo

Hi

Just got a letter to tell me to pay the tv license with my name on it. We intend to pay it but just wondering where they got my name from. There are 3 of us in the apartment - ESB bill is in my name and the NTL bill is in another of the girl's names. We are only here six months and we are renting so wondering why the letter came addressed to me? Is ESB passing on my details to the license inspector

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Abi

MizzLolly wrote: »

I was actually just talking to a guy this evening who was driving around Austrailia for a few months. A speeding ticket from Austrailia came in the post a few days ago to his correct address.... which is really odd because when he registered for a rented car he gave a fake address! :eek: We're all being watched.... :cool:

He must have given a fake drivers licence aswell then, because his real address would be on that..

[Mrs Gilhooly] Now, Im not in the habit of repeating myself [/Mrs Gilhooly]

But its fucking..

AN POST

robinph

Todoquetengo wrote: »

I bought the TV in Tesco and did not give my address

Got a Tesco Club Card?

MysticalSoul

A few years ago the licence department were driving me bananas, as I moved from Cork to Dublin, and paid An Post to have all mail forwarded to my Dublin address for 6 months I think. The TV Licence in Cork was in my name, and the one in Dublin was in someone else's name, even though we both paid for it. I wrote to them explaining the situation, and telling them I had been in touch with the people in Cork too, who had a TV LIcence, which they assured me they had transferred from their old address to that address, and despite me writing to them giving them all this information, they kept on sending me out warning letters, and when I rang them up, their explanation was that there was a protocol they had to follow, when I suggested that as I have provided them with all the details, and if an Inspector has to go out to check, it would be much less bothersome, and less work for them too, if they just arranged for an inspector to call out. I was so worried at the time, thinking I was going to get a Summons or something

Mossy Monk

robinph wrote: »

Got a Tesco Club Card?

The creation of the devil. Hiss hiss.

mikemac

MizzLolly wrote: »

I was actually just talking to a guy this evening who was driving around Austrailia for a few months. A speeding ticket from Austrailia came in the post a few days ago to his correct address.... which is really odd because when he registered for a rented car he gave a fake address! :eek:

We're all being watched.... :cool:

They probably took a photocopy of his licence and that'll have his real address.
Also, if he used a credit card then they can get the address that way

Wompa1

Ok, Ok Thats enough I admit it!, It was me ok I told the TV License inspector your name..I'm not proud but they were brutal! They slit my eyes lids and poured bleach in the wounds

skywalker

Abigayle wrote: »

An post, I assume. They run conjunction with the TV licence crowd.

Ever see one of their letters to warn you that yours is due?

Is it legal for them to be passing around your details between different depts? I would've thought that contravines some privacy law or other.

Stephen

sigh

its been said already on this thread about 10000 times.

An Post themselves actually collect the licence fee, so they're not giving your address to anyone.

Also...

corkgal1981 wrote:

Most larger countries would require everyone in apartment to have their own licence but as I said you only need it here if its been purchased for your apartment already

Most larger countries don't have retarded TV licence systems in the first place :mad:

big b

tricky D

This has been covered here recently. The postman sits down every few months and figures who's paying and who's not. That's all.

corkgal1981

skywalker wrote: »

Is it legal for them to be passing around your details between different depts? I would've thought that contravines some privacy law or other.

Seriously people! An Post = TV Licence Dept, TV Licence Dept = An Post.
Is it really that confusing?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abi

skywalker wrote: »

Is it legal for them to be passing around your details between different depts?

Only to the licencing dept afaik. It is an pity they dont liaise with their re-direction and mail-withholding depts. Although I have a current licence for my current address, I have a re-direction on an old address and they were looking for another fee off me for there also.

Corkgal, forget it. I've tried.

Todoquetengo

Abigayle wrote: »

Corkgal, forget it. I've tried.

You've answered it for me at least, I get it!! So thanks

slipss

Just a quick question I've always wondered about, maybe someone knows the awnser.

Say the TV license inspector comes around and knocks on your door and says "here I see you don't have a tv license, whats the deal?" Well can't you just say "I don't have a television". Then he goes "can I come in and check?" So you say "No." Isn't that pretty much the end of it? Because the way I see it, the only way they can actually prove you have a television is to come in and see it, and the only way they (or anyone else) can legally come into your home without your permision is with a warant signed by a judge. So I mean, whats the deal there, have tv license inspectors been granted higher powers than the gardai?

Alun

Stephen wrote: »

Most larger countries don't have retarded TV licence systems in the first place :mad:

The vast majority of European countries have them actually ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_license

Abi

Todoquetengo wrote: »

You've answered it for me at least, I get it!! So thanks

Thank God theres one! :pac:

slipss wrote: »

Just a quick question I've always wondered about, maybe someone knows the awnser.

Say the TV license inspector comes around and knocks on your door and says "here I see you don't have a tv license, whats the deal?" Well can't you just say "I don't have a television". Then he goes "can I come in and check?" So you say "No." Isn't that pretty much the end of it? Because the way I see it, the only way they can actually prove you have a television is to come in and see it, and the only way they (or anyone else) can legally come into your home without your permision is with a warant signed by a judge. So I mean, whats the deal there, have tv license inspectors been granted higher powers than the gardai?

Well other than the usual give-away signs like an aerial or dish etc, we are to live in fear of this theory:

They work by detecting the electromagnetic signature that your television gives off. They are so accurate that they can tell you where in the house the TV is, and they can indeed see the channel you are watching.

OoOh switch off your prons! :eek:

Pharcyde

I've been in my current apartment for two years and have had several letters about getting a license to "The Occupier".

Last month I registered for ROS (Revenue Online) and within two days I had the same letter addressed with my name requiring me to confirm that I didn't have a TV.

I blame the Freemasons!

thelordofcheese

Abigayle wrote: »

Well other than the usual give-away signs like an aerial or dish etc, we are to live in fear of this theory:

They work by detecting the electromagnetic signature that your television gives off. They are so accurate that they can tell you where in the house the TV is, and they can indeed see the channel you are watching.

OoOh switch off your prons! :eek:

I really do think that's a load of bollox, just scaremongering to convince people they can tell if you have a Tv. In reality i'd be very surprised if it amounted to anything more than a giant database with addresses in one column, the tennant (if known) in another and the final one being "have they paid Pat Kenneys varnish money this year (Yes/No)"

"Detecting the electromagnetic signature" my arse, I suppose they invert the flux capacitor and channel it through the main deflector dish of the TARDIS while they were at it.

Ruu_Old

Could YOU live with the shame?:eek:

MarkR

Oddly, the last couple of times I've had Mr TV License man pop around the telly went a bit crackly before he knocked. I think I was using cable at the time.

He was clearly in my tv fiddling with my tubes... :eek:

Abi

thelordofcheese wrote: »

just scaremongering to convince people they can tell if you have a Tv.

I happen to agree..

Alun

thelordofcheese wrote: »

"Detecting the electromagnetic signature" my arse, I suppose they invert the flux capacitor and channel it through the main deflector dish of the TARDIS while they are at it.

Google TEMPEST ...

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/security/tempest.htm

Not quite so smart now, are we :rolleyes: I'm not saying An Post use that kind of technology, but, yes, it can be done.

thelordofcheese

Alun wrote: »

Google TEMPEST ...

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/security/tempest.htm

Not quite so smart now, are we :rolleyes: I'm not saying An Post use that kind of technology, but, yes, it can be done.

If An post actually have that (or indeed more than one of them) i'll eat your hat.

Actually, after some research that technology isn't as reliable as it used to be after all it was invented in the 60's.
The whole principle is that it's possible to tell whats on the screen using the compromising emanations from the TV set (actually, it was originally used for PC monitors, but hey) Anyway analogue video cables (which alot of TV's have) filter out high-frequency components from images before rendering them on the screen and i believe SCART leads do the same.

I'd be very surprised if they can actually see whats on your screen, but *should* they use the TEMPEST system (which i doubt) the best they could probably manage is to get a signal that something is emmiting CE's. Which could just as well be a computer monitor.

the giant database seems more likely (double so seeing as the BBC licence crowd actually boast that they have such a database)

slipss

thelordofcheese wrote: »

the giant database seems more likely (double so seeing as the BBC licence crowd actually boast that they have such a database)

So we're in agreement then, if any one of you don't want to pay your tv license, ehhhh just don't. There is absolutely nothing anyone anywhere can do about it, ever.