ronbyrne2005 wrote: » I doubt they were involved with the burgalaries. None of them are genuinely legitimate. Some claim to donate to charity but they only give a few pence from each pound they make to a charity. They collect the old clothes which can be sold for something like 500pound per ton. The clothes get shipped to asia and recycled. There was a good piece about these outfits on BBC northern Ireland where they seem to come from.
keen wrote: » Trust me they cased the gaff and robbed it under the mask of clothes collectors, there may be money in tons of clothes but there's quicker money inside peoples houses.
ronbyrne2005 wrote: » Can you post evidence of any of these clothes collectors being convicted of burgalry? They would'nt last long if they were robbing the people they were collecting from, especially when they post their mobile numbers on leaflets. A person seeking to rob a house could knock into house to see if it is unoccupied under any pretence, it's a bit ellaborate to collect clothes and post leaflets. Thieves don't need to do something like this. I have seen several people delivering these leaflets and they more mostly women and didnt "look " dodgy.
Phibsboro wrote: » My understanding was that it was simply a commercial enterprise were the only scam element was the invocation of some charitable cause to elicit the clothes. I honestly can't see how it might be part of a more sinister plot - what part of the process helps the would be robbers decide you are worth robbing? Are you inviting them into your house to collect the bags? Are they going through the clothes you leave out and basing it on that? If instead you are suggesting that they are looking through the window as they pass by then there must be many other, less convoluted, ways to do that... C
ronbyrne2005 wrote: » I ain't saying no one does'nt do it just if anyone does it's very rare. I'd say vast majority are just after the clothes. They can get a few euro for every full bag they collect, and collect a few hundred bags a week across Dublin, so make decent money for little work and no risk of jail. People who break into houses are either junkies or experienced burgulars. Neither would be walking around putting hundreds of bags and letters(containing contact mobile number that could be traced) into hundreds of houses. If any of these people putting the bags and leaflets into doors are also involved in burgalry they would be easily caught and prosecuted and it wouldbe all over Liveline and in court reports in paper. Post a link to one of these collectors caught doing such illegal activities. What likely happened is these people were collecting in an area at same time as burgalries occured and ignorant people put two and two together and got ten. No evidence then don't bother posting with unsubstantiated rumour and hersay. Good afternoon.
Robertttt wrote: » oh yes i've heard of these "charity" clothes collectors. actually read it on the sunday indepedent.....they are like eastern european gangs that do it! they compete for the bags with actual charities.....i mean getting there before them and everything! then they send to clothes to poland or somewhere like that and actually sell them!
KTRIC wrote: » You'll get the shock of your life when you find out that Poland is not in Eastern Europe :rolleyes:
doonothing wrote: » Hahaha what? my mam always sends out the bags of clothes, more cos it just forces everyone to clear out the clothes that no one wears anymore on a semi-regular basis. Suuuurely this plot is the exact same as just randomly walking up and down streets to decide who to rob. I mean, I wouldn't be as concerned about who to rob, so much as when to rob. Why not go out to some random country house in the middle of nowhere every week and take everything, not too many cameras or neighbours or guards, I mean that's much simpler than organising a clothing collection, giving out all the bags, going out and getting back all the bags etc etc. I just can't see the benefit of it..
keen wrote: » Yore mas a mong. I think you'd spot a robber quicker if he was randomly walking up and down drive ways with no purpose. They don't put a lot of time into the whole clothes lark not the thieving ones anyway.
echosound wrote: » they seem to be going to extreme lengths to avoid being seen by householders lately- last night, at exactly 4.30am, I was woken by a noise in the hall and raced downstairs to see what was happening. Bloody "collector" going round dropping the bags in through letterboxes at 4.30am on a sunday night/bank holiday monday morning to avoid confrontation/detection from householders - if I had time enough to throw some clothes on before he left the cul de sac, I would have gone out and tore strips off him for disturbing the entire household at such an hour - our dogs were going nuts. Dread to think how many young children/babies the git woke up on his rounds.
Enii wrote: » Scam, Yes. Something more sinister like a front for robbery, No! The clothes do not go to charity. They get sold on - mainly for recycling. The poster who thinks it is a front for a house robbing ring is a little bit gulible methinks. They should consider a story they have heard fully and examine it before they go off repeating it. Just because they heard it from a friend does not mean it's true.
mike65 wrote: » http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/mike65/001.jpg I reckon I get one every 48 hours on average, how many items of old clothing etc do these people think we have? Mike.
