JJ6000 wrote: » your posts, like all the other conspiracynuts, smack of childish fantasy.
Deleted User wrote: » Pride and honour probably. It's whenever there's a terrorist attack somewhere, you usually get a few groups claiming responsibility. And can anyone remember if Al Queda claimed responsibility or was the responsibility thrust on them?
curiousn wrote: » Why is it that those brave enough to do their own research and question the official view are called looneys and nuts?
Wertz wrote: » This whole Corr thing is obviously an Irish government conspiracy
Mailman wrote: » Has this picture been posted yet? Maybe he discussed it with Dubya already. The Girls are looking fine.
TwoShedsJackson wrote: » Anyone who takes 911 Loose Change seriously, or believes any other 'film' that uses Wikipedia as a reference for ****s sake, is a fool.
Agamemnon wrote: » They certainly are. It's time to update the old question: all of the Corrs and Dubya or none of the Corrs? As for the 9/11 conspiracy theories, can't you people see that's just what they want you to think? The real truth is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6utwfaXQfA
Pixel8 wrote: » Wow, well its sad to see that naysayers are still commenting on this when they obviously havent done any research on the issue. The thing is this, ive been looking into this stuff for the last year and a half and i can safely say that im convinced the NWO exists, is real, and that there IS a plan for a one world government by those that are already in control. To all you naysayers, ever heard of the CFR? (Council on Foreign Relations) Yeah didnt think so... Ever heard of the PNAC (Project for a New American Century)? Ever hear of Project Northwoods? Didnt think so... yet you are all so quick to ridicule and dismiss anything you hear coz you believe it just couldnt be possible, we'd all know about it, there would be leaks etc. There ARE leaks, so many leaks that if you dont see them, you must have your head buried in the sand! You're acting exactly the way the US government is counting on, you're in denial. 25 US military officers question the official 911 story:http://jamie.com/2008/05/25/us-military-offices-question-911-fables/ Thats just one of the latest developments on the 911 issue. Thousands more are available at sites like www.abovetopsecret.com www.dark-truth.org www.documentaries.ws etc... But it goes so much deeper than 911 and its so sad to see that there are still people who dont even believe the 911 conspiracy fact. What hope is there for those in even researching the darker stuff which goes much deeper than 911? Laziness, thats what its down to. You see, there is a LOT of research involved in coming to this conclusion and you aint gonna find it out by spending a weekend looking at the evidence or even a month. We may be out of time as far as swinging a NO vote goes for Lisbon but if you DID look at all the evidence, believe me, you would wholeheartedly vote NO to this treaty. I really hope more of you get off your asses and research this info before the vote. And its amazing to see that nobody has even mentioned the king of conspiracy documentaries ZEITGEIST?? This basically explains the relationship between Religion, 911 and The Federal Reserve. It's all down to the International Bankers controlling most, if not all of the governments of the world. Some people think though that because there are around 50 mistakes in that doc that its all BS, idiots... That is ONE documentary on the subject, out of hundreds... If you are a lazy prick and you want to do the least amount of work to find out more about these issues, then please look at these 2 documentaries that are even better than Zeitgeist:Esoteric Agenda:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009&hl=enThe Empire Of The City: Part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549&hl=en Part 2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889&hl=en Until the naysayers look at those documentaries seriously, please shut up. Coz when you do, you will see that we weren't bull****ting about this and that it is actually happening right before our eyes. We need more of you to drop your arrogance and give this the benefit of the doubt, you will be so surprised and enlightened and the result of it all will be the collapse of all the evil that exists in our governments. We will begin to see suppressed technology make it into the public domain at last. We'll begin to see new developments in health reach the light of day such as Robert C. Beck's Blood Electrification! Google this now. If you keep your head buried in the sand and decide this is all just bull****, then prepare for an enslaved future controlled by RFID chips in the hands of a few elites that control the whole world. We're still very lucky in ireland as far as freedom goes but you just have to look at whats happening in the US and the UK, they are police states already! The rest of europe is next if we accept this Lisbon Treaty! VOTE NO!!!
Dudess wrote: » I'd be much more concerned about a Planet of the Apes type scenario. I mean I find it really hard to trust Monkeyfudge. How do we know he's not training an army of apes? Hm?
I have some respect for people who examine the events in detail and still (somehow) manage to agree with the official story. At least they were somewhat open minded and made an attempt to study before judging.
I don't think it's right for people who haven't done much research, outside of what's in the mainstream media, to refer to those who have in a degrading, critical and completely insulting manner.
bonkey wrote: » I agree completely. I'm deliged to meet another poster on boards who's actually read stuff like the NIST reports, rather than just believe what someone else has told them about them. You have read them, haven't you?
JJ6000 wrote: » Small explosions in a burning building are not uncommon...could have been caused by anything.....there are PLENTY of things that can explode in a building.
JJ6000 wrote: » So, it's thermate, we're talking about?? Thermate is not thermite. in any case, even if traces were found I have a few questions: 1. Was the steel that was examined independantly verified to be from the WTC? Didnt Jim Corr already tell us all the steel was brought to an island in asia?? 2. ANd also, how could you, or anyone else possibly know that the traces of thermite/thermate were not from a demolition but from the massive rescue & cleanup operation which involved cutting steel girders??
JJ6000 wrote: » Also, dont cotrolled demolitions occur from the ground?? NOt from the top floors??
JJ6000 wrote: » hahahahha!!! So you trust the firfighters view now???? So, THEN YOU MUST ALSO BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY THE COLLAPSE WAS DUE TO STRUCTURAL DAMAGE FROM THE PLANES & FIRE???!!! HAHAHA, bit of contradiction there no????
JJ6000 wrote: » Fire possibly 1,300-1,400 F. More than enough to significantly weaken the steel structure.
Kernel wrote: » FEMA reports from steel found at the wreckage indicated the thermite use was possible.
Even the 911 commission report states that the fires could not have reached much more than 650 degrees!
Pixel8 wrote: » Y Thank God for sites like Google Video, You Tube, the late TV Links, the late Stage6 and all the other video sites out there
that tell it like it is
Kernel wrote: » Don't you think it's a little strange that direct witnesses in the trade centre heard 'popping' sounds down each floor before the collapse, and a large explosion in the basement? Doesn't that imply controlled explosions to you? No, not really. Wow, popping sounds yeah?? That MUST mean it was a controlled demo. (sarcasm off) Are civilians qualified demoition experts?? No?? I didnt think so. Redundant argument. And also, have you actually ever heard a controlled demolition????? I have....I have seen & heard several. And believe me.....you would know all about it if it happened. It's incredibly loud. Even buildings a fraction of the size of the WTC make an enormous and very distinctive sound it's not the type of thing that only a 'couple of witnesses' hear. FEMA reports from steel found at the wreckage indicated the thermite use was possible. And why the **** would the cleanup operation use thermite??? Emmmmmm....hahahha. do you actually know what thermite is? It's used to cut steel. Dont you think there was steel that needed cutting in the cleanup operation?? There was hundreds of thousands of pounds of steel in the WTC. I can post pics if you like......which actually SHOW steel being cut in the cleanup operation and pics of many steel workers walking around ground zero. Would you like me to post them for you???? Also, please answer this.......wasnt the steel shipped off to Asia and melted down??? At least that's what Jim Corr said. So, how did some professor manage to get a piece of steel to get a sample of thermite from?? Cant you see how the conspiracy theorists arguments are PACKED with contradictions?? Why don't you try actually watching the video? What exactly are you trying to say here?? Are you going to answer my question or just say "watch the video"?? I DID watch the video. So, I'll ask you again....DONT CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS OCCUR FROM THE GROUND FLOOR???? IF THE WTC WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO WHY DOES IT COLLAPSE FROM THE TOP DOWN???????????????????????????? What firefighter says that the collapse was due to structural damage and fire? And why would a fireman be qualified as a structural engineer? As eyewitnesses to the event, their testimony is applicable to a court of law however. OK, so you basically backed up my argument. HAHAHA, thanks!!!! They are eye witnesses and NONE saw ANY evidence of a controlled demo. They foound no explosive wiring, blasting caps....they didnt see enormous mounds of thermite or hundreds of pounds of explosives. So, thanks for making my argument for me!!! And by the way PLENTY of firemen have a background in structural engineering. I have an uncle who is a fire chief and also has an engineering degree.....or is he in on the conspiracy too??? Even the 911 commission report states that the fires could not have reached much more than 650 degrees! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! so you trust the 911 report now????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the way you pick the facts from the reports that you want to believe and then dispense with the rest. HAHAHAHAHAHA...........your arguments get more hilarious by the minute!!!!!
Don't you think it's a little strange that direct witnesses in the trade centre heard 'popping' sounds down each floor before the collapse, and a large explosion in the basement? Doesn't that imply controlled explosions to you?
FEMA reports from steel found at the wreckage indicated the thermite use was possible. And why the **** would the cleanup operation use thermite???
Why don't you try actually watching the video?
What firefighter says that the collapse was due to structural damage and fire? And why would a fireman be qualified as a structural engineer? As eyewitnesses to the event, their testimony is applicable to a court of law however.
bonkey wrote: » Indeed. Without them, we might have to do our own research in order to be informed....and actually read stuff. /shudders. How did I never see it before... uncontrolled content == truth. Thats brilliant.
Pixel8 wrote: » What an eeeejit you are, when did we ever say that YouTube and Google Video et all were our primary sources of information, you assume too much, i have read tons of stuff about this and have taken all points into consideration from both sides. Theres the youtube videos again.....yawn. I assume too much???!!!!?? what exactly am I supposed to think when most of the info you post has been found on youtube????? In fact, the ONLY links you put in your post are youtube and googlevideo ones!! Yourself and JJ6000 seem to pick and choose those little facts you think you know inside out and disregard all the rest, and you say conspiracy theorists do this JJ6000, what are you doing? Exactly what you're accusing truth seekers of doing. Sad individual. Its beginning to look like the "conspiracy theorists" are the ones looking at ALL the info, and the believers in the official story are the lazy pricks that assume too much and have looked at practically none of the evidence. Why dont you put as much effort into looking at the evidence instead of wasting your energy posting nonsense on forums. Also, tell me what facts have I picked and chosen?? I am rebutting stupid theories put forward by conspiracy theorists about the 9/11 attacks. I am using facts to rebut "facts" and theories which have been misinterpreted and concoted by the "truth seekers". So, ya see, we dont hear the biased opinions that you have been so brainwashed by from TV and movies, we hear ALL sides, all the true stuff, all the false stuff, and then we make an informed judgement after taking ALL sides into consideration. Remember, and this is a point that naysayers always forget, there is lots of disinfo about this online as well as real info coz they are trying their hardest to discredit the people that are getting the truth out about this, but of course holier than thou knew this already. There you go again...."them, them them".......quick, I think I hear the bogeyman coming. I suppose you guys are going to start arguing that the North American Union is false? eh? Listen to our good friend Lou Dobbs before you answer that question and risk looking like an eeeejit again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA Have any of you actually listened and researched the stuff that Jim raised? Maybe you should... Well Jim, lets hope more big names come forward about this. Sean Penn who has been trying to blow the lid on this as well was talking to Bono at the last film festival, would be really cool if Bono stepped up and said something about all this. Would ya believe it then? You know, I havent really read much about the new world order. To be quite honest, I couldn't bother my ass because every conspiracy theory that I hear is the same. Half-baked theories concocted by crazys. Easily rebutted if you just do the tinest bit of digging into the subject. I spent time looking into the 9/11 conspiracy theorys becase it p*ssed me off how people were believing the mindless crap that these retards spout off. I have looked into some things Jim said about 9/11. One thing he said was that the terrorists were trained at an air force base in pensacola. Wrong.....they were trained at a PRIVATE flight school which was indeed in pensacola....NEAR an air force base. BIG DIFFERENCE!! I just love the way you point to SEan penn, Jim and BOno as authorities on the subject. You are truly hilarious!!!!! Are you being serious when you ask me if I woul believe it if Bono stepped up and said something?? OF COURSE NOT!!!!!!! WHY WOULD I BELIEVE SOMETHING SIMPLY BECAUSE BONO SAID IT????? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, and Sean Penn is involved in the documentary War Made Easy which explains a lot about the propaganda the US government has used to sway public opinion for all the wars it has been fighting over the past 100 years... Watch it here:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8383084962209910782&hl=en There it is again......Sean penn and google video. Did you all know that the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led America into the Vietnam War was fabricated! Even my dad agrees with that point, oh but thats a conspiracy, couldnt be true, could it?!?! Well here's a short clip from War Made Easy about that:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3OLVuN6V7w Is that another youtube link....why yes, yes I believe it is. Well, if SEan Penn and your Dad agree with it the it MUST be true, right? Oh yes, and by the way, I believe the word eejit only has 2 E's.
What an eeeejit you are, when did we ever say that YouTube and Google Video et all were our primary sources of information, you assume too much, i have read tons of stuff about this and have taken all points into consideration from both sides.
Yourself and JJ6000 seem to pick and choose those little facts you think you know inside out and disregard all the rest, and you say conspiracy theorists do this JJ6000, what are you doing? Exactly what you're accusing truth seekers of doing. Sad individual. Its beginning to look like the "conspiracy theorists" are the ones looking at ALL the info, and the believers in the official story are the lazy pricks that assume too much and have looked at practically none of the evidence. Why dont you put as much effort into looking at the evidence instead of wasting your energy posting nonsense on forums.
So, ya see, we dont hear the biased opinions that you have been so brainwashed by from TV and movies, we hear ALL sides, all the true stuff, all the false stuff, and then we make an informed judgement after taking ALL sides into consideration. Remember, and this is a point that naysayers always forget, there is lots of disinfo about this online as well as real info coz they are trying their hardest to discredit the people that are getting the truth out about this, but of course holier than thou knew this already.
I suppose you guys are going to start arguing that the North American Union is false? eh? Listen to our good friend Lou Dobbs before you answer that question and risk looking like an eeeejit again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA Have any of you actually listened and researched the stuff that Jim raised? Maybe you should... Well Jim, lets hope more big names come forward about this. Sean Penn who has been trying to blow the lid on this as well was talking to Bono at the last film festival, would be really cool if Bono stepped up and said something about all this. Would ya believe it then?
Oh, and Sean Penn is involved in the documentary War Made Easy which explains a lot about the propaganda the US government has used to sway public opinion for all the wars it has been fighting over the past 100 years... Watch it here:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8383084962209910782&hl=en
Did you all know that the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led America into the Vietnam War was fabricated! Even my dad agrees with that point, oh but thats a conspiracy, couldnt be true, could it?!?! Well here's a short clip from War Made Easy about that:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3OLVuN6V7w
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