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Where can I get help on this, my problem is and i'm sure the other 3 jeff bessheads on this board are having the same problem - is a BBS or BA degree better?

And another problem is that I don't know whther I should keep on maths/stats and economic, maths is unbelievably easy this year but only cos of the lecturers (apart from signing into lectures so annoying, do they even check?)

Anyway help or advice or links to help/advice? Thanks!

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Tricked wrote: »

Whats the layout for the business and politics exams?

Sociology should be a doddle now that we know whats coming up, those readings are ridiculously tedious though, especially conspicuous consumption

Business - 20 MCQs (you either know it or you don't, but there's no negative
marking so have a guess)
- 3 complusory technical type questions (i.e specifics/no waffle)
- 2 broad essay questions, do 1 (i.e brings in your own knowledge, case
studies, waffle allowed but you'd have to be good at it

)

Politics - 12/13 questions, answer 4. You will be bound to be able to answer 4

Even though we know what's coming up I actually think sociology will be a bit tricky in terms of actually writing about a topic for 1.5 hours. I know people will leave early but at 1.5 hours they are really expecting detailed,quoted,references,case study type answers I think.

Which topic do people think anne will leave out? I'm thinking McDonaldization (i.e organizations) given that 80% of people did their essays on it.

EDIT- sorry didn't see your reply I was typing mine in between course compass, my new home.

House of Wolves

B]Examination]
Assignment questions for your Tutorials a good guide to exam questions
Sec A: Q 1: MCQ [20 Q answer all
Sec B: Q, 2, 3 and 4: short essay questions testing content and understanding of concepts and readings [answer all Q 2 page max][
Sec C: Q5 and Q6: [Critical Essays answer 1
Final grade: 2*10% + 20% + 10% + 50% = 100%
Must pass Summer Exam to pass course ]

Im not sure what the politics is like. hmmm that proves that you need to pass the exam to pass the year. oh well.....

zuchum

Tricked wrote: »

Whats the layout for the business and politics exams?

Sociology should be a doddle now that we know whats coming up, those readings are ridiculously tedious though, especially conspicuous consumption

conspicuous consumption took me around 40 minutes to get through...and all I got from it was,"lower class" people have to buy things to make themselves look good basically..or somethingto that end...

although I did nearly get a googlewhack using 2 words from it..so its not all bad!:D

Tricked

Whats the layout for the business and politics exams?

Sociology should be a doddle now that we know whats coming up, those readings are ridiculously tedious though, especially conspicuous consumption

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swimfan22 wrote: »

They really were, especially the second half of the year. Just glad I don't have to do it again, ever! My head tells me I'll be finished really early, but I just have this aversion to leaving exams early, so we'll see on the day...

Yea im sorta the same. It was sorta forced on you to believe that leaving exams early is bad from the LC. you can spend time reading over your paper etc. i think il be doing alot of reading in this exam if i stay for it all. lol

swimfan22

They really were, especially the second half of the year. Just glad I don't have to do it again, ever!

My head tells me I'll be finished really early, but I just have this aversion to leaving exams early, so we'll see on the day...

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swimfan22 wrote: »

For politics, I've done mass media, political parties, nations/states/political systems and all that jazz, policy process and global politics. Though the states/nations one has been a while so might look through it again!

Sociology will be pure waffle. An hour and a half per question is just ridiculous! There isn't THAT much to write!!

Yea its pretty ridiculous, im thinking alot of people will be leaving early in that one, some people will probably be finished in an hour. I mite need 2 hours at max, giving myself plenty of time to prepare.....

Sociology is the worse subject ever. all those classes were basically pointless. im glad i stayed in bed for the majority of them.....

swimfan22

For politics, I've done mass media, political parties, nations/states/political systems and all that jazz, policy process and global politics. Though the states/nations one has been a while so might look through it again!

Sociology will be pure waffle. An hour and a half per question is just ridiculous! There isn't THAT much to write!!

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zuchum wrote: »

did you guys say hello in real life?? or even wave??

Nope we didnt say hello in real life, that would just be plain weird. lol

yea for economics i didnt do it for the leaving cert so its slightly more difficult, altho i think at this stage ive got my head around it.

for sociology yea im sorta planning to waffle. The day before i plan to just learn a few of the names and possibly a few definitions, and read through the 4 topics so I have an idea what they are about and that should hopefully be enough. One of my strong points is waffling so i think i should be ok for sociology. (sociology=waffle)

also there isnt much point of lying on this, since I havnt got a clue who anyone is, (apart from that guy that seen me in the library) so we're not trying to impress anyone. I think people are a bit more mature now n can admit when they study. lol

manicmonoliths

For Econ I've covered most of micro, think I know it pretty well but I'm not too sure, I just read the chapters from the book and practiced the questions. I'm counting on macro still being fairly fresh in my mind so I think I'll prob end up doing that the night before.

I was in the Law library too today, creepy. It used to always be so easy to get a seat there but now it's always packed too!

(Mini rant: space next to me had books on it from 2 til 9.45 nobody sitting though, at 9.45 bloke comes in takes his books and leaves, effectively using the library as a mini cloak room, felt really pissed off as it took me about 30 mins of wandering around all 3 libraries to find a seat in the 1st place!)

Think I'll head in tomorrow too, might attempt some business, not really sure what to focus on though, I'll prob do Chandler, Porters 5 forces thing and Mintzberg, all the other articles were kinda BS though. What are people thinking for the essay question? I'd be suprised if corporate responsibility wasn't one of the options.

Politics today I did Classification of Systems, Ideologies, Democracy (that one was confusing!) and a bit of Constitutions.

Did anyone else do that survey that the BESS Office sent round? Notice that half the questions were on Maths and Stats?

zuchum

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah.. being the only other person here practically, let alone the other person with a laptop gives it away a bit!

did you guys say hello in real life?? or even wave??

for economics im relying on my leaving cert micro knowledge and studyng the macro slides the day before....i'll be ok right?...right??
Mass Media...seems A.O.K..wouldn't mind that,Power,and Political parties being three of 4 questions...cos theyre the only ones I've studied...so far...

It seems everyone else is just as fooked as me which is nice...unless you're all lying

Is anyone else planning to waffle their way through Sociology completely? And do past JF's know if that'll work...??

House of Wolves

Yea i think il have a look at it. i done history for the LC so i sorta learned all that European Union history jazz. I think mass media is a easy enough topic and pretty examinable. hope to get an essay on that one.
any other topics in politics you think/hope will come up?

swimfan22

I hope so. I don't think it's the worst topic, so a question on it would be fine by me!

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swimfan22 wrote: »

House of Wolves wrote: »

About the europe thing, did raj not say that stuff would only be coming up from material that he covered, which i know applies to the guest lecturers, but it wouldnt it also apply to Michael Geary as well?
Then again what would be the point of those lectures!

Do you really think the global politics won't come up?? Damn, that means I have to study another topic!!

No i not saying its not coming up, i was just asking did anyone else thing that it mite not because he said material he covered is only coming up. what would be the point of those lectures on global politics if we didnt get asked on it. the guy michael Geary would probably be pretty annoyed at raj!

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Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah.. being the only other person here practically, let alone the other person with a laptop gives it away a bit!

Yea cant say id make the best detective. lol. well hello virtually.

For the economics thing, if you look at the macro slides you'll see pretty clearly whats gonna be asked i think. id say something on supply and demand possibly. lol but yea the multiplier effect, shifts in the curves, recessionary gaps and inflationary gaps sound nice. elasticity, cross price etc...economics is so vast everything can be asked i suppose.

swimfan22

House of Wolves wrote: »

About the europe thing, did raj not say that stuff would only be coming up from material that he covered, which i know applies to the guest lecturers, but it wouldnt it also apply to Michael Geary as well?
Then again what would be the point of those lectures!

Do you really think the global politics won't come up?? Damn, that means I have to study another topic!!

[Deleted User]

Yeah.. being the only other person here practically, let alone the other person with a laptop gives it away a bit!

House of Wolves

are you the guy sitting to my left? im thinking your a girl due to the name, but i cant see anyone else on a laptop!

thanks bout the top, it just oozes with BESS doesnt it. lol

Randomness

sorry to interrupt this bit of boardsie stalking!

anyone want to point me in the direction of some (haha)"hot topics" to study for economics?

i think i'm trying to cover too much. with the other subjects i've narrowed it down but economics doesn't really afford that luxury, well unless people have ideas of what's really really important?

[Deleted User]

Figured out who I am yet? Nice top by the way!!

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Yea alrite no need to give out. lol. i was thinking it was, but i wasnt sure.....i usually dont come to this part, only that the ussher is full at like 9.01. lol

[Deleted User]

You are in the Opubs section... the OPUB tag on each book shelf should give it away!

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Indeed.....great ive got a stalker in the library. lol

[Deleted User]

hehe... could be you all right! beside the microfilm machine?

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Deleted User wrote: »

are you the guy studying in the Official Pubs part of the library?

Eh im in the law section of the college at the moment. whats the "offical Pubs part of the library"? (feeling slightly paranoid at the minute lol)

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House of Wolves wrote: »

Yea same here. Im trying to cut down stuff so I can learn it easier the day before. I think the macro slides are actually pretty good, because the way i look at it is, the lecturer finds those areas particularly important so he is gonna exam them, not things hidden away in the book. im basically doing his slides, with the book open so i can look at the graphs and draw a few out...thats the best i can do for economics....i covered micro, but i basically just read the chapters highlighting...not great....

at least it seems other people are in the same boat as me for these exams .......

i have to work sunday tho, so thats one day revision sorta gone.....:(

are you the guy studying in the Official Pubs part of the library?

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Marshy wrote: »

I've gone over micro, but not very well at all. I'm basically relying on day-before revision for most of the subjects.

There's a pretty good choice for the long questions in Economics. 3 out of 6 I think but having said that I'll probably need all the help I can get.

Yea same here. Im trying to cut down stuff so I can learn it easier the day before. I think the macro slides are actually pretty good, because the way i look at it is, the lecturer finds those areas particularly important so he is gonna exam them, not things hidden away in the book. im basically doing his slides, with the book open so i can look at the graphs and draw a few out...thats the best i can do for economics....i covered micro, but i basically just read the chapters highlighting...not great....

at least it seems other people are in the same boat as me for these exams

.......

i have to work sunday tho, so thats one day revision sorta gone.....:(

Marshy

House of Wolves wrote: »

how far are you in the economics?

I've gone over micro, but not very well at all. I'm basically relying on day-before revision for most of the subjects.

There's a pretty good choice for the long questions in Economics. 3 out of 6 I think but having said that I'll probably need all the help I can get.

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Marshy wrote: »

Could be wrong here I but thought it was the case that you needed to pass the final exam in Business in order to pass the year.

Hmmm you could be right. You sound right! lol. well i think i should be able to pass. Business is english so if you have a general idea of the stuff, and have a half logical brain, then you should be able to pass (said while touching wood) if you write stuff down that sounds right then you should get some marks e.g pure navigator business and a vertical silo, guessing them working out well in the tests. lol

Im not going in thinking I only want 20% anyways

how far are you in the economics?

Marshy

House of Wolves wrote: »

realised i only need to get like 20% to pass Business so im not overly worried bout it. (

Could be wrong here I but thought it was the case that you needed to pass the final exam in Business in order to pass the year.