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English lords still own thousands of arces in Ireland from the plantations

Johnny Bitte

Hey all,
Just read in then Irish Mail on Sunday (reliable I know) that a group of Lords from England still own thousands of arces here in Ireland since the plantations.

Now I m not a mad RA head here but there s definately a little voice inside me that says hold the **** on mate, surely stealing all the way back doesn't mean they should be still allowed to keep it.

Then I guess the question is who should get it if it is taken back?

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b0bsquish

Keano A Legend wrote: »

Tis my field.

*grabs pitchfork*

Gerroff my land...This is a local field..for local boardies.

javaboy

I bagsy* the whole island. No back answers. Tip black. Tip wood. Dibs on the rest of the world too. Now GTFO!

*"There is no higher authority than a bagsy, once someone has bagseyd something it can't be taken away" - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bagsy

Blisterman

To be honest, there's tons of land owned by Irish Property developers in England.

Are you suggesting the English take that back?

Insect Overlord

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

I hate those 'der takin our xxx' sayings. No one talks like that and its just making a joke out of a serious issue. Usually by people who are in favour of such issues.

:eek: That's one of the best Southpark quotes ever!

I've only ever seen it used ironically, as in by people who know how serious an issue is, but still don't see the point in over-reacting to extreme levels.

[Deleted User]

Alot of messy land acts. Thats why OP !

Kev_ps3

Defenestrate wrote: »

Ok, so the hitlist is this so far:

English Lords (Dey tak arrr laaaand!)
The Poles (Dey tak arrr jaaaarbs!)
Irish Banks (Dey tak arrr munny!)

We're going to need plenty of pitchforks...

I hate those 'der takin our xxx' sayings. No one talks like that and its just making a joke out of a serious issue. Usually by people who are in favour of such issues.

stakey

Defenestrate wrote: »

Ok, so the hitlist is this so far:

English Lords (Dey tak arrr laaaand!)
The Poles (Dey tak arrr jaaaarbs!)
Irish Banks (Dey tak arrr munny!)

We're going to need plenty of pitchforks...

and the Irish Landlords! (Dey own laaaaand!)

Defenestrate

Ok, so the hitlist is this so far:

English Lords (Dey tak arrr laaaand!)
The Poles (Dey tak arrr jaaaarbs!)
Irish Banks (Dey tak arrr munny!)

We're going to need plenty of pitchforks...

The_B_Man

I think what TheGoose is trying to say is that, back in the day with that Collins fella, when he met with the boyos from across the pond for them 26 counties back, he meant the whole of each of the 26 counties. He didnt mean "well, sure give us some of the county but sure you can keep most of it!"

stakey

I have a major issue with big land lords owning lands within Ireland that go unused or neglected. I don't have an issue with lands that landlords (some of whom may be english) have opened up to the public or have turned them into public parks/gardens/houses. However this thread is approaching this topic from a specifically anti-english viewpoint.

Why not take issue with the thousands of acres of land owned and run by aristocrats and gentry from Ireland like the De Burgh's living in Kildare? Not all of the land that is private and run by landlords is English owned. The forgetful amongst us seem to ignore that large amounts of land that was gifted to Irish chieftains, soldiers, lieutenants etc etc by the British crown. Not to mention the self made landed Irish gentry who were left in control of their lands due to the influence they had in the country at the time.

While we're at it, why not have a go at the current line of Irish landlords running dilapidated housing in our towns and cities and charging huge amounts for rent? Or the greatest landlords of them all, Irish Banks!

stevoman

Any old english titles here are usually restricted to land owning and farming, there are a few earls still in meath. From my line of work and what i have seen the land is farmed for the earls. No harm there, they take good care of the land and have good farming prectice, Any lords or earls still living in stately homes in ireland maintain them welll and encourage visitotrs into the houses and maintain their history. iv no beef with them.

all the stars

The_Goose135 wrote: »

Hey all,
Just read in then Irish Mail on Sunday (reliable I know) that a group of Lords from England still own thousands of arces here in Ireland since the plantations.

Now I m not a mad RA head here but there s definately a little voice inside me that says hold the **** on mate, surely stealing all the way back doesn't mean they should be still allowed to keep it.

Then I guess the question is who should get it if it is taken back?

Well, if you have something 99 years its yours - something like that anyway-

If that starts happening everwhere, America as a country is in trouble - Native americans would be delighted to have their land back (and rightly so, hardly any land for reservations ) But wont be happening...

Anyway - the people who own it now , own it. Get on with it- its just a bit a land!

Defenestrate

Pitchfork Paddy cares naught for fact! :pac:

EamonnKeane

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Brehon law has a wide variety of social status levels, and formed the most intriciate and comprehensive legal systems of its day.

Really? No society could function without "intriciate and comprehensive" law. The Brehon laws were unexceptional.

thelordofcheese

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Does anyone have any more info on this issue> Is there any link to this article? TBH im shocked about this whole thing.
Personally I think we should take back every square inch of land that foreigners own on this island.

Does that include land owned by people that aren't irish but also are not british, or does your radical plan only extend to 'them across the water'.

PeakOutput

this is such a stupid thing to get pissed of about

Kev_ps3

Does anyone have any more info on this issue> Is there any link to this article? TBH im shocked about this whole thing.
Personally I think we should take back every square inch of land that foreigners own on this island.

Defenestrate

the_syco wrote: »

Them wooden ones, or the metal light poles as well?

The ones that tark arr jaaaaarbs!

stovelid

The_Goose135 wrote: »

but there s definately a little voice inside me that says hold the **** on mate, surely stealing all the way back doesn't mean they should be still allowed to keep it.

What else do the little voices in your head say to you?

dlofnep

I'm going to squat on all their lands and reclaim it for the people of Waterford, who really are the true heirs to this Island.

Down with English Lords and West Brits and all that sort of thing.

Maximilian

Kernel wrote: »

Many people in Dublin who own their own homes have to pay ground rent, which basically goes to English landlords of old. You can buy them out, or continue paying them the rent. They must make a nice few quid out of it all the same.

Those Ground Rents are generally never actually demanded.

stakey

Really? It's rather pointless having embassies from other European Union countries these days. They serve very little to no puprose thanks to the integration of the EU.

But hey that leaves the UK embassy for a bit of pitch fork action! So i'm sure the usual armchair republicans will be overjoyed once we get going on this crusade.

the_syco

Defenestrate wrote: »

And then we'll start on the Poles!

Them wooden ones, or the metal light poles as well?

=-=

Before the english lords had the land, the irish kings had the land, and they gained the land through wars and what not.

SimpleSam06

stakey wrote: »

And once we're finished running those English divils out of the country we'll head up to Dublin and run those other Johnny foreigners out of their 'embassies' and reclaim our land in Dublin too!!!

Unlike the English landed gentry, the embassies actually server a useful purpose.

chopperbyrne

Don't be silly, we'll get the Poles help to rid us of the Roma first!

Defenestrate

And then we'll start on the Poles!

stakey

And once we're finished running those English divils out of the country we'll head up to Dublin and run those other Johnny foreigners out of their 'embassies' and reclaim our land in Dublin too!!!

SimpleSam06

Defenestrate wrote: »

Is that you Mugabe?

<_<

>_>

Different situation anyway, you wouldn't be evicting anyone, just prying the fat little fingers of a shower of sister loving wahoos out of the country at long last, and preventing the retardation of the development of the country by said party of disinterested punks.

Defenestrate

Is that you Mugabe?

SimpleSam06

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

And who shall the title change to? The government? No! Never the government!

Yes, the government, and current landowners, via eminent domain.

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

The deserving people of Ireland! Right. So how do we decide who's deserving?

Hey - how about this - what if we simply declare that anyone paying ground rent to an English landowner automatically assumes title to the land they rent.

Sounds good.

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

Oh hey hold on, what about the people who've bought their land out? They had to pay for something someone else is getting for free. Oh dear.

Taxi drivers working in the business most of their lives lost tens of thousands of euros EACH due to deregulation. Eggs, omelette, etc.

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

And worse again!! What happens if the homeowner is a NON NATIONAL??

Most of them are living in social and affordable housing anyway, its basically government land for the next fifteen years mostly.

Kernel wrote: »

800 years is payment enough, who's with me!?? :pac: