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Begging in Traffic

Dub13

This has become widespread over the last couple of years,its crazy now in Dublin you cant make a journey of more then a couple of miles without seen someone begging in traffic.They have absolutely no regard for there own safety,I drive a bike as well as a car and a couple of times these people have popped out of nowhere and nearly caused a major accident,IMO its only a matter of time before one of them is seriously hurt.

I have also noticed over the last while that they are getting a lot more aggressive especially towards woman traveling alone,now I am not talking about major aggression but you know the kind of stuff staying at the womans car and staring in.I know from talking to MrsDub 13 about this that it intimidates her big time when she is on her own with the kids.

Anyway the point of this thread is does anybody know if this practice is illegal...?If its not it should be and if it is illegal then there should be a major clamp down.

Rant Over.

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feylya

At the very least, they're jay walking but I'm sure there's a few other laws they're breaking too

artanevilla

Tactically position the screen washers.

mikemac

Maybe the Evening Herald sellers should be included and while they are not out to hassle people it's a dangerous job, especially when bikers are filtering in the queues of traffic.

I'm amazed it's still allowed. The council are missing out on rates that they'd get if it was sold in newsagents.

Beggars only do this because it works.
If 100% of people stopped for a month then this would end. Someone is giving enough money to make it worthwhile for entire families.
Is it you??

Jesus Wept

artanevilla wrote: »

Tactically position the screen washers.

Great idea. :rolleyes:

micmclo wrote: »

I'm amazed it's still allowed. The council are missing out on rates that they'd get if it was sold in newsagents.

Can you elaborate on that

I've noticed an increase in it alright, and an increase in the aggressiveness of beggers in Dublin in general. It's no longer sitting in doorways with a cup, they're now sitting at ATMs, Luas ticket machines, begging at your car, approaching you at the smoking areas of nightclubs etc.
What can be done about it though? They're usually fine if you just say "no", but it's easy to say this from a males point of view, I'd imagine women, particularly women by themselves, find it much more intimdating.

However, I did see some Romas being moved from an ATM off grafton street recently by the Gardai, which was much appreciated. Absolutely sick of it at this stage, there's a lot of homeless people on our streets that need the few euro a lot more than these con artists, yet people still fund them.

I know it's easier said than done, particularly for women, but we really need to put the foot down and stop giving these people money WHATSOEVER. Not a cent. Don't even acknowledge them, if we ignore them, they may *just* go away.

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feylya wrote: »

At the very least, they're jay walking but I'm sure there's a few other laws they're breaking too

jaywalking isn't that some american law?

Jesus Wept

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

jaywalking isn't that some american law?

It's an American term but I think a similar law exists here, it's just one of the ones that isn't applied.

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The-Rigger wrote: »

It's an American term but I think a similar law exists here, it's just one of the ones that isn't applied.

i dont think there is such a law I think it comes down to personal responsibility in this fine country

Fringe

Begging is illegal in Ireland. Not enforced though.

Jesus Wept

Fringe wrote: »

Begging is illegal in Ireland. Not enforced though.

Thought it was made legal within the last 12 months.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Amazingly its now legal to beg in Ireland.

the_syco

artanevilla wrote: »

Tactically position the screen washers.

Are tasers legal in this country?

=-=

I find a "f**k off", followed by a "f**k off and get a job, you f**king piece of sh|t" if they ask why, usually works for the beggars on the street.

Lil' Smiler

I'm a girl and I feel so so intimidated by these beggars that are at the Cherrywood flyover at Loughlinstown but even more so by people at ATMs, i don't like that at all and it really shouldn't be allowed.

There's always at least 2 people sitting under the ATm's on whatever road it is that The Palace/ Vicar Street etc is on... i hate it!!

And I do not like at all when a group 2/3 women on grafton street come up to me with children in tow... i probably makes me sound horrible but am i wrong to be suspicious that the mor eof them there is that they have some plan to pick pocket??

Laser and the credit card companies could certainly use this to their advantage.

Terry

feylya wrote: »

At the very least, they're jay walking but I'm sure there's a few other laws they're breaking too

No law against that here.

Gaelic Ghost

Gypsies have a tendency to surround your car and knock on all the windows driving you into submission..... or in my case alot of shouting

Jeapy

I was in the newsagents on Grafton Street (the one accross form the Bagel Factory) recently and watched a begger count out his 5 and 10 cent coins...just enough for a can of cheap cider. Im sceptical of all beggers, and pretty intimidated by the ones at ATMs.
I had an "incident" with one in Mayo before at a Dunnes car park paystation. He said "Give me money please". I ignored. " PLEASE give me money, I SOOOO hungry". I ignored. He followed me back to my car, broad daylight thank God, and kept shouting abouse. P1sses me off so bad. Surely Dunnes security should be doing something about this kind of thing?

Edit...Ive never come accross any in Dublin traffic driving around Camden St, Kevin St, Harcourt St, South Circular Road etc. Are there certain places where this happens?

stepbar

I think that high street banks will have to stop having ATM's outside their premises. When I was in the states during the summer, most banks in New York had a lobby area where you swiped your ATM card to get in. AFAIK, The only branch in the city centre which implements such a system is AIB on Grafton St.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Jeapy wrote: »

Edit...Ive never come accross any in Dublin traffic driving around Camden St, Kevin St, Harcourt St, South Circular Road etc. Are there certain places where this happens?

The famous wench on the M50/M1 round-a-bout.

The boy with the gimpy foot at the Darndale Hilton/Clarehall Tesco junction.

And the lad at Bargain Town on King St.

Jeapy

Mairt wrote: »

The famous wench on the M50/M1 round-a-bout.

The boy with the gimpy foot at the Darndale Hilton/Clarehall Tesco junction.

And the lad at Bargain Town on King St.

Im never near any of them places...safe for now!

Jonathan

Mairt wrote: »

The boy with the gimpy foot at the Darndale Hilton/Clarehall Tesco junction.

I know the exact guy your talkin about...

vms7ply9t6dw4b

Mairt wrote: »

The famous wench on the M50/M1 round-a-bout.

Apparently, she lives in Drogheda and never seems to forget her false leg when shes out walking her dog :rolleyes:

Jesus Wept

Mairt wrote: »

Amazingly its now legal to beg in Ireland.

Have ya any spare change bro

phantom_lord

rb_ie wrote: »

Absolutely sick of it at this stage, there's a lot of homeless people on our streets that need the few euro a lot more than these con artists, yet people still fund them.

a homeless person gave me money once (honestly!), most of them are probably aren't desperate or anything, it's just easier than having a job. when he was young my dad knew some kid that used to be sent out by his dad to beg on the street and he made about as much from begging as my dad did from his job.

chuggers, beggers, romanians, charity people, all of them should be rounded up, taken off the streets and shot, or at least arrested/warned or something, just get them out of my ****ing way. :mad:

edit: i've only ever given one person on the street money (other than some good street entertainers), and it was some dude sitting on the side of the street with a sign saying "please give me money for drugs". at least he was honest.

Misael Uninterested Bassinet wrote: »

Apparently, she lives in Drogheda and never seems to forget her false leg when shes out walking her dog :rolleyes:

yeah she used to out begging in drogheda loads, gone the last couple of months, must have gone to a better place i guess.

Andrewf20

I know of the begging woman at the M50 / M1 intersection and the guy down at Tesco in Clare hall with the bad legs. I usually give them a few bob. That woman seems to be there rain or shine, day or night. My heart goes out to them tbh.

The only thing that does my head in, in relation to this, is those goons who come up to you car and start washing the window, and the bloody window is already clean enough.

WhiteWashMan

Ive never begged in traffic. I do it at ATM machines.

'Here Mister, any chance of a tanner?

phasers

run em down

arybvtcw0eolkf

Andrewf20 wrote: »

I know of the begging woman at the M50 / M1 intersection and the guy down at Tesco in Clare hall with the bad legs. I usually give them a few bob. That woman seems to be there rain or shine, day or night. My heart goes out to them tbh.

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When I see people like you give them money I feel like ringing your neck.

Your responsible for these parasites aggressively begging from the people who don't immediately come accross with money.

My OH is terrified of that girl on the M50/M1. Twice she's spat on her car.

As for the boy with the gimp, checkout his father and younger brother watching you from the wall at Tesco's. That guy turns my stomach, he hobbles up to the lights, takes off his runner and rolls up the leg of his pants to expose his gimpy foot. Sickening.

Andrewf20 wrote: »

The only thing that does my head in, in relation to this, is those goons who come up to you car and start washing the window, and the bloody window is already clean enough.

Although these used to annoy me I haven't seen them around for awhile, and at least they were willing to work for the few bob they got. Although hardly breaking their backs either.

togster

Mairt wrote: »

The famous wench on the M50/M1 round-a-bout.

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Theres a chick near swords who has one leg too. She hops around in the middle of the road.

cance

yeah there was a gimpy legged foreigner begging on the loughlinstown fly over this weekend, its a really long traffic light too so if you get stuck hes there beside ya for about 4-5 mins.

next time i see him ill tell the missus to grab his crutch while we drive by, give him something to really complain about.

Mairt wrote: »

When I see people like you give them money I feel like ringing your neck.

Couldnt agree more, why do people give money to these ****ing degenerates? gimpy leg? too bad not my problem.