DonJose wrote: » What about all the scumbag VW Passat estate drivers who are taking up 100mm more road space than Hyundai Santa Fe :rolleyes: Hyundai Santa Fe Length 4675mm VW Passat Estate Length 4774mm
dodgyme wrote: » Great you are now respresenting the farmers. As other posts have pointed out the anti SUV lobby in this forum at least do not have a problem where there is a proven necessity. You really need to read ... I said READ the other posts.
dc69 wrote: » this simple solution stops people trying to impress friends with a big suv and wrecking the environment
DonJose wrote: » What about all the 1990 junkers driving around, I'm sure they are spitting out a lot more Co2 than modern SUV's.
astraboy wrote: » I did READ the posts, take some of your own advice. In fairness, you spout drivel about SUV's. Read the post above you clown, a passat is longer then a Hyundai santa fe. So maybe ban them too? Are you really that bothered by what other people drive? If you are you are very very sad. I have made my points, I think they have been measured and balanced. Yours are based on a simple dislike of SUV's and you will use any scrap of evidence to back this up. Would you really be happier if all these people drive cars instead? How does it effect you? In reality it does not, your percieved annoyances about SUVs are just that, percieved.
dc69 wrote: » yes that makes sence,if the length of a car blocked up the road,thats honestly one of the stupidest things ive ever read,thanks for the laugh.its width you should be looking at mate!not length
dodgyme wrote: » no one mentioned the length of vehicles? But I am the clown even though you are juggling the same muck for the last day without the penny dropping. Monkeys would pick it up quicker
dodgyme wrote: » no one mentioned the length of vehicles?
astraboy wrote: » The penny has dropped, you are a sad man with nothing better to do then worry about what other people drive. Get over yourself man, let people drive what they want they pay enough for it.
DonJose wrote: » The Hyundai is a 7 seater and is 70mm wider than the VW Passat, how would the lenght of your dick hog up the road Hyundai Santa Fe Width 1890mm VW Passat Estate Width 1820mm
dodgyme wrote: » You need to mature alot. Your attitude leaves alot to be desired.
dc69 wrote: » exactly,look at the width!which is wider?me thinks the santa fe,any way its not about the width,the sante fe puts out worse emisions and eats more petrol than the passat,my dick wouldnt fit on a public road:)
astraboy wrote: » I'm plenty mature my good man, I don't waste my time going crazy over people choosing to buy a Hyundai Santa fe. I live and let live, I suggest you give it a try some time.
dodgyme wrote: » ya you come across as a really REALLY chilled out person . NOT
astraboy wrote: » I'm plenty chilled out when I'm driving my Hyundai Santa Fe with the A/C up full blast!:D Seriously though you said mature not chilled out. keep to your point ya MAN.
dc69 wrote: » very true,point taken.but probably half thr amount of emisions and petrol or diesel consumption comapred to the cheapass santa fe,but i do take you r point,maybe an emisions test every 2 years for cars over 8 years old,like in japan
Cosmo K wrote: » Are you actually serious? That Cadillac Escalade thing.....i'm not gonna call that heap of junk a car....does 12-19 mpg according to cadillac's website. Now a 1.0 l Yaris will do 45-50 mpg, do I have to say more?
dodgyme wrote: » Wow you baffle me with YOUR facts which you cant prove but yet have the cheek to attack the anti SUV threads?? Fact SUV block visability Fact SUV not needed to carry most (I would say all) things. Fact SUV higher lights then cars and hence blind ordinary car via rear view mirror. Fact I would rather avoid being hit by a these tanks then any other car.
littlejukka wrote: » this is the most moronic responses to any post on any thread on any forum on the entire internet. you do yourself so much shame. please stop posting for fear of further compounding steroetypes. i didn't think i'd ever say this but you make SUV drivers look bad(der).
cornbb wrote: » I couldn't give a crap about spending money on some overbearing status symbol, I have better things to do with my cash.
cornbb wrote: » I have just had many, many negative experiences with the attitudes of a disproportionate amount of SUV drivers (attitudes mind you, not individual bad driving incidents).
Mr.Boots wrote: » Everyone knows the facts about suv's.....the pros and cons. A minority of People buy them because either they need them for work or because of where they live . The rest buy them cos they are buying into a lifestyle......Sad but true. ... I dont agree with provisional drivers on the roads
caoibhin wrote: » I do understand why some people get pi**ed off with SUVs in urban areas, doesnt make sense. Still though i have one, i do need it for work, (its commercial) I work in forestry, the jeep is indeed off road 50% of the time and pulling heavy machinery about the place. Cant see a toyota prius doing that.
prospect wrote: » Can someone PLEASE define an SUV? Why not ban people buying cars capable of speeds of over 120KM/h as no one needs to go faster than that. Why not ban radios, they are not needed. And sure while we are at it, why would you allow people pick the colour of their vehicle, lets ban colours while we are at it.... Multifunction mobile phones, game consoles, Plasma & LCD TV's, designer labels, branded products, art, comedy etc. None of these are needed, sure
caoibhin wrote: » Fairnuff craichoe I couldent agree more, point is though, i and many more like me drove a jeep before it was fashionable and will do when its not so trendy. Problem is that now ordinary people like me just going about their business will now be taxed heavily because its trendy for yummie mummies to drive one. Surely there should be some exemption if its commercial or it can be proven to be work related. again, for the record, there is NO need for these jeeps in an urban setting.
craichoe wrote: » Sounds to me like the, I'll be safer with a gun argument ..
dodgyme wrote: » Think of other words when you say the word "truck" mmmm....'work' 'goods' 'distribution' Think of other words when you say the words "agricultural vehicle" mmmm....'work' 'goods' 'distribution' 'staple food' 'harvesting' Think of other words when you say the term "SUV" mmmm....'selfish' 'unnecessary' 'big'
dodgyme wrote: » No I would be better off if assho*es in SUV's werent hoggin the road. Typical SUV push everyone off the road attitude. And yes I am more willing to put up with the obstruction of a truck doing deliveries etc than an SUV popping down to the shop for a pint of milk. oh the weight of the pint of milk, the big tank needed to carry it home. Can you tell me why you need an SUV please?
craichoe wrote: » Well .. Fact is that in Ireland (if they follow European Directives, which they are so far with Driving Permits, Licensing categories and Co2 based taxation) that SUV's, 4x4's - Partime 4x4's or whatever you want to call them will be taxed heavily in the future to discourage you from driving them.
Cmar-Ireland wrote: » Mods, please close this thread and send it the same way as fog lights, and any future threads that go the same way. It always leads into inflated ego's arguing for the sake of it with no valid points from either side.
cancan wrote: » When you have drug dealers involved in the exotic car market due to the high taxes, there comes a point that maybe the taxes are too high. If everyone is trying to get around a tax, perhaps the tax needs to be reevaluated SUV's now, then performance cars, the petrol cars etc etc.
astraboy wrote: » Fair enough the larger jeeps can be a nusiance in the city. If the driver is competent then whats the problem? You seem to have an issue with peoples choice to drive what they like as long as it effects no one else.
MCMLXXXIII wrote: » Everything you do effects everyone else, so that doesn't really matter. If a driver hits a pedestrian in an SUV, they will do the same in a small car./QUOTE]no SUV's are statistically no safer than other cars in the same price range for the occupants they are however, far more dangerous to other road users.
Cmar-Ireland wrote: » I see that Hummer have brought out RHD versions of their H2's and H3's. Can't wait until I can afford to buy one. Unless something bigger comes out in the meantime!!!
nytraveller wrote: » Have a look at what's coming in 2008http://www.infiniti.com/fx/photos/exterior_photos.html 15 miles per gal / 320 hp V8 Better get your order in quick.......and expect to be 'keyed' alot!!
if no one has a gun, and one person gets a hold of one, they will reek havoc on a city until caught by the city officials (that should have a gun), but if everybody has a gun, that person might have a lot harder of a time robbing anyone or getting what s/he wants.
prospect wrote: » So far the Anti-SUV side have made the following remarks (without evidence of proof) about SUVs, to justify their intolerance: They are too long, They are too wide, They are not safe to the occupants, They are not safe to other road users, They emit too much CO2, They consume too much fuel. Every single one of these arguments has been disproven with facts. And lets not forget, we all live in a democracy, we have freedom of choice. Think about that the next time you contribute to the traffic on the M50 when you head to the airport for your unnecessary holiday abroad on a huge noise and air polluting airplane that consumes massive amounts of highly refined non-renewable fuel.
craichoe wrote: » Then why is the EU considering changing the category on these vehicles and banning/taxing them heavily if theres proof to the contrary ? How can you compare a 4x4 vehicle to a Boeing 737 / Airbus A320. Should we get a boat instead ? Or perhaps get the Governement to build a tunnel to America. You could drive all the way there in your SUV then :P
prospect wrote: » Because, like the current Irish road tax regime, they are trying to generate revenue. Because, the argument so far is to ban/punish SUVs because they are not necessary. A holiday abroad is not necessary, so lby your rationale we should ban those also, as a flight probably emits more bad-environmental stuff than any road going vehicle would in 10 years.
