colliegG wrote: » Ok one last question Fatted and more just for my own education than anything else. Probably miles off topic anyway. Sparkie saw a lad been punched in the face. Well if that guy had a preconsisting condition and the punch caused him to collapse and hemorrhage on the street. The whole eggshell skull rule, does that suddenly allow the person who threw the punch to be arrested? If it was obvious that there had been a serious assault. I've studied some civil law but no criminal. Not even the basics so I don't have a clue but I'm just wondering would the onus be on the reserve to show that he thought he was acting in the assaulted persons interest?
metman wrote: » Interesting thread. I'm a Dub serving in the Met Police in London. Its interesting to see the GR experiencing the same problems the special constabulary had here once upon a time. What I do find hard to believe is that you have no powers to deal with public order. This is bread and butter policing, surely the powers that be realise this? Specials here have the same powers on and off-duty as regular officers and I've worked with some good specials. So long as the recruitment standards are kept high, which isn't always the case in some forces in the UK, I don't see a problem with volunteers helping out, especially on weekend nights when, no matter where you police, you'll be rolling around with some drunken idiot, at some point during the shift. Good luck to those about to go out on the streets. Listen to your colleagues, watch their back during stops and on calls, be careful when sticking your hands into people's pockets, and above all else stay safe.
star gazer wrote: » Would it be fair to say that the Reserve has had a slow but steady start? The poll question: is it here to stay?
freddiew wrote: » I am learning at present they are the best trained force in Europe and Professional.
cushtac wrote: » The Garda Reserve is the best trained force in Europe???
star gazer wrote: » Not particularly, but i'm curious to see how it developes and am interested in how people posting here get on with the whole process of becoming a Garda Reserve.
Dee5 wrote: » Ooooh Geo get you lol
Dee5 wrote: » Hahahha Yeah was on last night and they were calling me Garda Reserve, I sent them straight lmao. Yeah defo going have booked the day after off work, was in a heap after the last one. Did you get the letter left in the station for ya?
Benny Kerry wrote: » Hi Metman, I agree that the PO stuff is basic but then again it has the greatest potential to go pear shaped v quickly. Plus it's the area that generates the most complaints. Therefore experience will assist in this regard. When we have seen and assisted a few times, then maybe. There is a new man coming in at Commissioner - be interesting to see what happens........... In the meantime, as some of the others say, baby steps & stay safe out there. Object of the exercise is to come home in the same condition that you went out in?
in control wrote: » Working as a GR for some time and generally find it a good experience. However it baffles me why we do not have any powers in relation to public disorder. Every duty i complete has an element of public order and it is frustrating to be in situations like this where you have no more powers than the average citizen. I appreciate that the GR is still in the learning phase but the word is that Garda management are generally very happy with the caliber of candidate in the GR. Another issue is the fixed charge penalty system . At present you can stop some one for a motoring offence but your GR reg no cannot access the system to put the offence on Pulse. Any comments greatly appreciated.
baton charge wrote: » Very interesting point In Control.At least you can get into Pulse not one Reserve in our Division has received Pulse training yet and is unlikely to for some time. Hell we haven't even received our epaulets so now cannot go out on to the streets as we are unidentifiable to the public.This is all very frustrating as we are blue in the face highlighting it. What powers do we have under Road traffic.I know we have 107 and 109 buit can we sieze a car for out of date tax and insurance or is that something only a full time member can do.Can we issue parking tickets,fixed penalty charges for mobile phone usage while driving etc.Would be most interested in a response from those have been doing the job for a year or so.
in control wrote: » Another issue is the fixed charge penalty system . At present you can stop some one for a motoring offence but your GR reg no cannot access the system to put the offence on Pulse. Any comments greatly appreciated.
fatted wrote: » The Garda Reserve have no power to issue fixed penalty notices. Fixed penalty notices are issued under section 103 of the Road Traffic Acts 1961-2006. Reserve Gardai have powers under section 40,69, 107 and 109 only!
in control wrote: » Take your point .I am curious if this is subject to review at any stage . My understanding is that GR members have the same power as full time officers but are restricted in that authority by the Commissioner . Is this true?
fatted wrote: » It does. Its clearly stated in the Garda Síochána Act 2005 and in the Rules and Regulations for the Garda Reserve. Indeed. Just like full members, Reserve members are responsible for their own actions. A Reserve member doesn't arrest someone on someone else's instructions unless they are happy there is an offence _and_ they have the power to do so.
controller wrote: » Well from where I stand as an applicant, I'm beginning to re-think, why on earth would anyone want to be apart of something that is obviously not well thought out? Any professional organisation especially a police force should have set rules. I notice some posters to this site are already GR members, and they don't know their powers?? Furthermore, would the powers that be not think it their place to ensure that every full-timer knows the role of a GR, it would appear negligent to send people out on the streets, without them knowing fully what is expected of them. If the full-timers do not know their limits they may issue a GR with an instruction outside their limits.
The Big E wrote: » Just curious, But has any of the Reservists who started off last year, been paid the €1000 yet, to cover petrol and other costs, e.g. driving to Templemore..
