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Irritating Accents

juuge

Does anyone else agree that the current batch of regional corresponents on RTE have the most irritating accents known to man.
Plastic sheeting for one is particularly weird in Cork not to mention streerin' Mc Gooley in the midlands.

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cas91

To be honest I don't think anyone is justified in getting irritated by accents... apart from those who choose to adapt an accentthat they couldn't possible have.. eg. a Dublin person havnig a Kilkenny.. vice versa etc:rolleyes:

Dudess

cas91 wrote:

To be honest I don't think anyone is justified in getting irritated by accents... apart from those who choose to adapt an accentthat they couldn't possible have.. eg. a Dublin person havnig a Kilkenny.. vice versa etc

Exactly - an accent that's put on.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

D4 without a doubt.

And its not put on..all the little dumplings from that neck of the woods have that accent ..so there!!

I actually don't think it sounds D4 - that wouldn't bother me, since, painful as the D4 accent may be, it generally isn't put on.
It's more "British-y" with its clipped tones and rounded vowels.

Lizzykins

Emma McNamara is the worst followed in no particular order by Fergal Bowers who can't say his "th"s and Moichal McMullen.

FlutterinBantam

Emma mcNamara is not the worst.

Just because the girl speaks properly and enunciates her words clearly, the great unwashed,those who speak in the gutteral tones of the underclasses take umbrage.

I would much prefer to listen to her than some goon with an accent you could cut with a knife, mispronouncing words/driving a coach and four through grammar rules/using that lazy tongued drawl beloved of Dubliners where every word is rolled into one long pipe of unintelligible gibberish.

Dudess

I'll have you know I have a neutral accent (with the odd hint of Corkage but people find that charming

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Emma McNamara - too snooty;

some goon with an accent you could cut with a knife, mispronouncing words/driving a coach and four through grammar rules/using that lazy tongued drawl beloved of Dubliners where every word is rolled into one long pipe of unintelligible gibberish.

- not good either; a neutral accent - juuuust right.

Firetrap

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What's a "regional accent" ???? Is Dublin not in a region - i.e. east ?

Joe Duffy has to be one of the worst "real" accents on national radio, while Tony Fenton has to be one of the worst "fake" ones.

Moikel MakMullen has improved, thankfully.

Let me say, too, that I normally don't like judging presenters by accents or whatever.....someone with an iffy accent but with proper diction, pronunciation, intonation and timing is a LOT better than a "DJ voice" without the above.

But yeah, national stations need to be more careful because even they need listeners to be able to identify with the station.

Regional accent might not be the right phrase but I'd classify Dublin accents as regional as well. I don't mind people having Dublin accents or Cork accents or whatever as long as they're good at their job and I can understand what they're saying. They're also accents that ordinary people have. Joe Duffy's not my personal cup of tea but it is good that someone with an accent like his got to be on radio.

The Emma McNamaras and Moikel Mockmullons of this world have makey uppy accents which serve no purpose other than to attempt to give themselves a social standing that's a notch above the plebs. The same thing applies to youngsters who go to college with Donegal accents and come back at Christmas sounding like they've been attending D4 school.

Wishbone Ash

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Keelan Shanley (spelling?) yet! A trueful awful accent.

....and those AA people who keep pronoucing Dorset Street as DorSETT instead of rhyming with 'corset'. :rolleyes:

Dudess

Yeah, Keelin Shanley, another snooty accent. Miriam O'Callaghan has a dreadfully posh accent too, but it doesn't always irritate me - although sometimes it does.

Scoobydoobydoo

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

D4 without a doubt.

And its not put on..all the little dumplings from that neck of the woods have that accent ..so there!!

I'm not sure I'm convinced of this, since I believe it is a 'new' accent, inspired by American tv. The people in their twenties who speak like this, I don't believe they got this accent from their parents, since I've never, ever heard anyone of an older generation speak with it.
It's awwwwful!

I hate the way Moykel McMullen says his own name!
I can't stand listening to Jerry O'Sullivan or George Hook, to me they both sound like their mouths are full of food.
Paul Collins on Today FM, his accent seems to change like the weather, what's that about?

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

FlutterinBantam

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I'm not sure I'm convinced of this, since I believe it is a 'new' accent, inspired by American tv. The people in their twenties who speak like this, I don't believe they got this accent from their parents, since I've never, ever heard anyone of an older generation speak with it.
It's awwwwful!

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

You could have something there indeed.However Emma's accent isn't derived from that I would opine,probably more school inspired.

What you refer to would be ,I think this business of calling Cork "COREK"with much emphasis on the "R" whereas the old fashioned way would be "KORK"

The "R" sound is intrinsic to this accenct as in "Can we get the coarr loike".

Miriam O callaghan has in my opinion a real 6 6w ish accent ..dropping the "hs" at the end of words as is "geh" for "get" and falling into the trap most Dubliners fall into not using their tongue and lips properly to enunciate clearly.

Like its too much effort to say "pronounce" instead the "r" is dropped and its "ponounce"

Listen out for it if you don't believe me hint... An taoiseach

Scoobydoobydoo

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

You could have something there indeed.However Emma's accent isn't derived from that I would opine,probably more school inspired.

What you refer to would be ,I think this business of calling Cork "COREK"with much emphasis on the "R" whereas the old fashioned way would be "KORK"

The "R" sound is intrinsic to this accenct as in "Can we get the coarr loike".

Miriam O callaghan has in my opinion a real 6 6w ish accent ..dropping the "hs" at the end of words as is "geh" for "get" and falling into the trap most Dubliners fall into not using their tongue and lips properly to enunciate clearly.

Like its too much effort to say "pronounce" instead the "r" is dropped and its "ponounce"

Listen out for it if you don't believe me hint... An taoiseach

Interesting point, I'll be looking out for this.
Yes, I know what you mean about "Cork", the way people pronounce "Coirk" - what the hell is that??!!! If they think that is speaking well, then they have SO got it orseways!!
In fact, I lived in Cork for a while and came across this accent there also!
Also, I overheard a conversation on the Luas recently, between two girls from Donegal, who were basically D4 heads with a Donegal accent!!! Every second work was, LIKE and OHMYGODDD!! They were beside me and I felt like saying to them "Like, OHMYGOD, do you know how many times you've just like, said LIKE, in the last like, five minutes?!!!"
All I can say is, it's no wonder Ross O'Carroll Kelly is such a bestseller!

juuge

What about Bertie's gubberment!

FlutterinBantam

Conor Hunt the RTE guy who does reports around Dublin usually has ,in my opinion a typical D4 accent,both he and Phillip Boucher-Hayes fall into that category.

FlutterinBantam

juuge wrote: »

What about Bertie's gubberment!

heh heh spot on there.:D:D

You see Government takes a bit of an effort to pronounce properly so fook that,just lump out something near enough.

Shure don't the people understand me!!!

ibh

I'm actually a big fan of Michael McMullan and i don't mind his accent at all.. It's very definitive and unique. My g/f isn't into sport and doesn't really listen to the radio much but loves his voice!! Fcuking weird couple i suppose..

Dudess

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I can't stand listening to Jerry O'Sullivan or George Hook, to me they both sound like their mouths are full of food.

I don't know Jerry O'Sullivan but I CAN'T listen to Hook. Never have I heard such mumbling and slurring of speech by a presenter - it sounds like he's had a few pints or his false teeth are falling out.

Paul Collins on Today FM, his accent seems to change like the weather, what's that about?

Ah yeah, that's been the subject of discussion for many moons now. You see, Paul is a radio presenter so he's got a real mid-Atlantic radio voice, but he's also a big fan of "de hurlin" and he's from Tipp so whenever he's interviewing anyone from the GAA, out comes the Tipp/West Waterford accent. Unlistenable.

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin, but not extreme in any way.
Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

Agreed. Note: Matt Cooper is from Cork.

bmaxi

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

....and those AA people who keep pronoucing Dorset Street as DorSETT instead of rhyming with 'corset'. :rolleyes:

When I was growing up in the area it was always pronounced Dorset St, the Dorset St. pronunciation is fairly new. Just one of the vagaries of local language, like Greystones and Greystones.

Liam Byrne

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I prefer non-descript accents, they're usually from Dublin......Such as - Ian Dempsey, Sean Moncrieff, Matt Cooper.

Matt's a Corkman!

The "Dorset St" vs "Dorset St" one is an interesting one; most people pronounce "committee" as "commitee", whereas Cork people pronounce it "commitee"......guess it does vary.....

But the poster who complained about the intrusion of the word "like" in every sentence of late teens/early twenties is spot on......there are few things as irritating in speech! "I was like sooo drunk like last night" :rolleyes: So what exactly were you and when ? If you were "like" drunk, that means you weren't actually drunk and if it was "like" last night, then it wasn't last night..... :mad:

Can these idiots not learn to, like, speak ?

Scoobydoobydoo

Dudess wrote: »

Note: Matt Cooper is from Cork.

I know, that's why I mentioned him.

Scoobydoobydoo

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Matt's a Corkman!

The "Dorset St" vs "Dorset St" one is an interesting one; most people pronounce "committee" as "commitee", whereas Cork people pronounce it "commitee"......guess it does vary.....

But the poster who complained about the intrusion of the word "like" in every sentence of late teens/early twenties is spot on......there are few things as irritating in speech! "I was like sooo drunk like last night" :rolleyes: So what exactly were you and when ? If you were "like" drunk, that means you weren't actually drunk and if it was "like" last night, then it wasn't last night..... :mad:

Can these idiots not learn to, like, speak ?

I know Matt Cooper's from Cork, that's why I mentioned him!

I think it was, like, me, who, like mentioned the word like, because like where I live, like the young folk say it, like twice in every sentence!! Drives me nuts.

I'm fearing for my son at the moment, because he's surrounded by it in school! He often starts telling me a story with...."So, there was this guy right? and like he came to the school? and he was like really tall?" (That's meant to be a sentence)
- To which I say "and was he ACTUALLY really tall or was he LIKE really tall?" and he gets the message.

Scoobydoobydoo

Dudess wrote: »

I don't know Jerry O'Sullivan but I CAN'T listen to Hook. Never have I heard such mumbling and slurring of speech by a presenter - it sounds like he's had a few pints or his false teeth are falling out.

Ah yeah, that's been the subject of discussion for many moons now. You see, Paul is a radio presenter so he's got a real mid-Atlantic radio voice, but he's also a big fan of "de hurlin" and he's from Tipp so whenever he's interviewing anyone from the GAA, out comes the Tipp/West Waterford accent.

Unlistenable.

Agree with all of the above 100%!

the merchant

Teresa Mannion AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!

Greenman

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Keelan Shanley (spelling?) yet! A trueful awful accent.
:rolleyes:

I like her accent and find her a good broadcaster on radio and TV.

Can't stand Aine Lawlor and don't listen to Morning Ireland when she is on.

Nightwish

Keelin Shanley has a dreadful accent but is a good broadcast journalist, and I actually listened to Drivetime when she was presenting it. Emma McNamara and her ridiculous accent is pretty irritating though. Her pronounciation is so over the top and staccatoed.
I've noticed how ridiculous Susan Jacksons pronounciation is too. According to all of the above mentioned, we live in Orrland, we use credit cords and drive cors.

FlutterinBantam

There seems to be some consumer resistance to people speaking properly on this thread.

Do we want a legion of Joe Duffys or Bertie Ahearns on the radio.

Personally I like to be able understand people on the radio and not be breaking every rule in the grammar book.

Dudess

But Keelin Shanley... Joe Duffy - there's an in-between.
A neutral accent with clear pronunciation ftw.

Scoobydoobydoo

Dudess wrote: »

But Keelin Shanley... Joe Duffy - there's an in-between.
A neutral accent with clear pronunciation ftw.

I'm not a fan of Joe' accent, but he's not the worst. I've noticed a few people mentioned Keelin Shanley and to be honest, I can't see what's wrong with it - but I would love for others to point out what I am missing?

tSubh Dearg

Liam Byrne wrote: »

The "Dorset St" vs "Dorset St" one is an interesting one; most people pronounce "committee" as "commitee", whereas Cork people pronounce it "commitee"......guess it does vary.....

Interesting bit of linguistic trivia for you, apparently the second pronunciation is a hangover from the days of the hedge schools when the Irish didn't know much English but they did know Latin so they applied the pronunciation rules of Latin to English.

And now back to the thread.....

santosubito

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Conor Hunt the RTE guy who does reports around Dublin usually has ,in my opinion a typical D4 accent,both he and Phillip Boucher-Hayes fall into that category.

Yeah, ironically, yer man Hunt is from Firhouse!

KlondikePaddy

Plastic Sheeting (Paschal Sheehy) in Cork often grinds my gears!!!