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Bye bye mushed-up British stag nights in A'dam

griffdaddy

http://www.nisnews.nl/public/111007_1.htm

'THE HAGUE, 11/10/07 - Health Minister Ab Klink is to ban the sale of hallucinogenic mushrooms. Relaible sources say he will make a decision this week.

Currently, only dried mushrooms are banned in the Netherlands. In fresh form, which has the same effect, they are for sale normally. With a general ban, Klink is acceding to the wishes of a Lower House majority.....'
Seems even the Netherlands is deciding to ban shrooms now. Personally I have mixed views on it, i live in the Dam and for every idiot Brit i see vomiting and screaming at trams i see 4 or 5 people just having a good time on them. The end of that article says the Amsterdam mayor wanted to make people think about it for 3 days before they did them instead of an outright ban, seems like a better option to me, also eliminates weekender tourists taking them to a certain extent. Do people think if we had a system of say waiting and educating for 3 days before trying cannabis or drinking for the first time it would change our society's apparent inherent abusive nature?

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Tha Gopher

Whats the RLD?

Also, some have theorised that Hitler was mad out of it on coke when he decided to invade Russia. Having said that he absoloutely despised smoking apparently.

rossie1977

griffdaddy wrote: »

http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/General/FAQ.html
That's the quickest link i could find. It definitely is though, and if you were unlucky enough to encounter a real wánker cop you could get done for smoking it in the street as well.

yes i have seen it happen, tourists arrested for smoking dope on the street.

Amsterdam should do something about those a*sholes everywhere in the RLD annoying you trying to sell grass, coke, charlie etc and the illegal streetwalkers

rossie1977

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Whats the RLD?

red light district

hitlers invasion of russia would have been successful had he not put it on hold for 6 months like he did. The russian army were totally outmatched.

Wertz

ThaGopher wrote:

What's the RLD?

Ask yor...nevermind.

Terry

The reason behind the closure of 1/3 of the Red light district is that one guy owns 1/3 of the buildings and is selling them for property development.
I can't find a link, but I did read it somewhere the other day.

As for the mushrooms, would you like to see double the amount of people wasted on a Saturday night in your home town?
If the Dutch don't want it, who are we to judge?

griffdaddy

Terry wrote: »

The reason behind the closure of 1/3 of the Red light district is that one guy owns 1/3 of the buildings and is selling them for property development.
I can't find a link, but I did read it somewhere the other day.

As for the mushrooms, would you like to see double the amount of people wasted on a Saturday night in your home town?
If the Dutch don't want it, who are we to judge?

A lot of Dutch do want it though, there's already a backlash here with posters all over the place. It really is a divided society on so many issues though, thats why nearly everything takes ages and has to be agreeable to everyone.

Wertz

Terry wrote: »

If the Dutch don't want it, who are we to judge?

We're no-one to judge, but in fairness I don't see them outlawing heino and goldschlager shots which are arguably just as responsible for the sea of vomit (there's a nice mental image).

Here's one for griffdaddy: illegal to smoke in the street...but there's plenty of cafés with seats and tables set up ouside for that very purpose....grey area, or does the premises include the adjacent pavement? I'd tend to not smoke openly in the street, but I've often whiled away an hour outside a café with a few smokes, so I always wondered...

griffdaddy

rossie1977 wrote: »

Amsterdam should do something about those a*sholes everywhere in the RLD annoying you trying to sell grass, coke, charlie etc and the illegal streetwalkers

they've tried lots of things, primarily an experimental phase of clean prescription heroin, as opposed to methadone. This was an attempt to curtail 'acquisitive crime' or junkies stealing and begging to get their fix basically. There's arguments for and against how successful it was, the whole report is here in English http://www.ccbh.nl/ENG/indexN4.htm

bushy...

griffdaddy wrote: »

what's going in coffeeshops at the moment is technically illegal, but they don't mind ignoring that law for the sake of not being pedantic, i can imagine they'll do a similar thing with the smoking ban.

Are they not turning a blind eye to have it all where they can keep an eye on it ?

griffdaddy

Wertz wrote: »

We're no-one to judge, but in fairness I don't see them outlawing heino and goldschlager shots which are arguably just as responsible for the sea of vomit (there's a nice mental image).

Here's one for griffdaddy: illegal to smoke in the street...but there's plenty of cafés with seats and tables set up ouside for that very purpose....grey area, or does the premises include the adjacent pavement? I'd tend to not smoke openly in the street, but I've often whiled away an hour outside a café with a few smokes, so I always wondered...

I think it goes down to local council laws how close to the coffeeshop you have to be. I know in Eindhoven and Utrecht you pretty much have to be right inside the shop, there's no chairs outside or anything. In amsterdam you just have to be in the seating area of a coffeeshop outside, it doesn't really make much difference there anyway cause the smell is so strong coming out of the shop and there's coffeeshops on every single street so encountering it periodically is pretty unavoidable. They just don't like the idea of people walking around the shopping streets and places like that with a joint or pipe. In Utrecht or Eindhoven you could go for days without encountering anything even remotely weed related, it's totally different to Amsterdam.

Latchy

Off topic a bit but Was over in Adam 6 weeks ago, and nice to see my old haunts like the leidsplien and milky way are still the same as i remember them, since my last vist it in the early 80s.
Remember seeing Depech Mode in the Paridisio just around the corner. Great memories

SimpleSam06

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Of course they will Sam, why do you think its even legal?

Its legal because the Dutch feeling on it is that reasonable adults should be responsible enough for their own actions to not have to outlaw drugs. The side effect of every waster in Western Europe who can't handle reality showing up and snorting himself into a flatulent puddle is something they tolerate as well, I guess.

rossie1977 wrote:

you would actually be surprised the calibre of people who goes out to amsterdam looking for hookers and to smoke weed like nobody in hollywood does drugs

Well if Hollywood is your gold standard for quality people, theres not much more to be said.

I haven't a lot against drugs myself per se, but Amsterdam as a city would get along just as well as any other European capital without their little quirks.

Mr. CooL ICE

The best example about smoking in the street in the Dam that I can think of is comparing it to drinking in Ireland. You can drink in a pub, and drink on the chairs outside, but drinking while walking around the street is frowned upon and can get you into trouble. As for other dutch cities, I really can't say.

And drink prices in the RLD are terrible. While in a mildly hallucinogenic-induced state, a group of bouncers roped us into going into a strip bar. A round of 5 beers was €55. Ouch

arybvtcw0eolkf

Nothing to add to the thread, except a photo of me in Amsterdam this summer.. Can't remember the month so it must have been a good trip

HAPPY DAYS.

county

Mairt wrote: »

Nothing to add to the thread, except a photo of me in Amsterdam this summer.. Can't remember the month so it must have been a good trip

HAPPY DAYS.

where`s the hookers?

User45701

**** im going over in a few weeks, got judges passes to the cannibus cup, they better still be for sale when i get over there

HEY wait wont it be like the 10 boxes of smoke here? the shops can sell them till there stock runs out

Tuesday_Girl

One of the main reasons for wanting to ban the mushrooms is the increasing number of ambulance callouts every weekend to treat tourists who have taken them. One English guy completely trashed his hotel room and then start to cut himself with glass, it took 6 policeman to overpower him and take him to the hospital with life-threatening injuries. A French guy jumped off the roof off his hotel after taking them, a French girl jumped off a bridge and died, and last weekend a German guy was found running down the motorway naked, causing mayhem. The cost of treating people after taking mushrooms is apparently costing hundreds of thousands per year, as well as diverting hospital staff and beds from treatment of genuinely ill people.

Tuesday_Girl

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't get that think about it for 3 days craic..

I'd say most people that go to Amsterdam to try the drugs have been thinking about it for a long time weather or not they do any research is another thing. Alcohol is to blame for the pukers. You'll try anything when drunk when the two drugs mix you end up getting sick especially if you mix drink and smoke.

Looks like the dam is looking to drop the sin city rep. They're cutting down on the amount of windows in the red light district aswell and soon the smoking ban will come into affect. Although technically Cannabis is herbal and I don't think it would fall under the smoking ban in Ireland (if it wasn't illegal anyway).

The proposal is that you can only pick them up from the shop 3 days after buying, thereby ruling out most weekend tourists.

Latchy

I remember a group of us irish ,aussie , english eating hash cake in the milky way in amsterdam and having a great giggle all night along with some hash of course, but this american guy who was in our group and staying in our Hostel totaly freaked out when he realised what it was he was eating .Now it wasn't actualy a phycotic reaction or mind blowing adverse response to the the cake , it as just a ' Oh my GOD ,what am i eating ' ? kinda thing .

Everybody else was fine but i think this guy went off to find the nearest shrink to analyse what it was he had done .We thought it so funny and everybody (including the american ) were all fine next day .