Garda Reserve Training

baton charge wrote: »

Phase 1 is only a taster for Phase 3 where you are tested.Pat and I know two who had failed because they were left handed, as the self defence is geared toward right handed people.They were however given a second chance later and passed.You need only to be moderately fit.
I stand corrected on this one but if you are injured in the line of duty I think you have to sue the state.I think the GRA handles this for the full time members.You would probably go through the PIAB (personal injuries assesment board) as do most things now.

Thanks for that, I keep asking anyone in a Dublin Station as I would like to meet face to face to chat about the Reserves and experiences so far. May be this is impossible but appreciate all that is covered here.

freddiew wrote: »

Gents, no one has answered my question, hope you are not all like that in Court!! My question was, "I was wondering if anyone knows on P1 do they take into account a 50 year old against a 25 year old's fitness or has everyone to be equal fitness. Has anyone failed on P1?"

Phase 1 is only a taster for Phase 3 where you are tested.Pat and I know two who had failed because they were left handed, as the self defence is geared toward right handed people.They were however given a second chance later and passed.You need only to be moderately fit.
I stand corrected on this one but if you are injured in the line of duty I think you have to sue the state.I think the GRA handles this for the full time members.You would probably go through the PIAB (personal injuries assesment board) as do most things now.

pat1187 wrote: »

I am in my 50's and found the physical in phase 1 fairly easy,you do the exercises on mats,bare feet, bit of falling around but nothing too strenuous.

Also they supply a bus from Templemore to the hotel in Thurles on Saturday evening so if you do plan on having a few pints on Saturday night,take the bus and leave the car at the college. That way you wont have to worry about driving Sunday morning.Also I would say 8 pints was conservative for some of the guys,as it's definitely a good craic that evening.

Hi Pat, that is very helpful, are you in a Dublin Station.

pat1187

I am in my 50's and found the physical in phase 1 fairly easy,you do the exercises on mats,bare feet, bit of falling around but nothing too strenuous.

Also they supply a bus from Templemore to the hotel in Thurles on Saturday evening so if you do plan on having a few pints on Saturday night,take the bus and leave the car at the college. That way you wont have to worry about driving Sunday morning.Also I would say 8 pints was conservative for some of the guys,as it's definitely a good craic that evening.

pat1187

leinsterdude wrote: »

Hi,my question is unanswered also,maybe nobody knows,but would they sort you out if you were injured on duty,loss of income would be a concern.not compensation just what you were earning??

as far as I know there is no insurance coverage.I heard that there is an amount stopped from a regular garda's pay to cover insurance but as we are not paid we can not contribute.

leinsterdude wrote: »

Hi,my question is unanswered also,maybe nobody knows,but would they sort you out if you were injured on duty,loss of income would be a concern.not compensation just what you were earning??

Hey dude,
i have no idea but i say nothing is in place yet. I meant 2 bring it up at the interview but totally forgot about it. There's still alot of wholes in the reserve that need to be sorted!

iandromiskin wrote: »

You bet me to posting there . Hope my answer helps ?

Thanks Ian that is very helpful.

leinsterdude

Hi,my question is unanswered also,maybe nobody knows,but would they sort you out if you were injured on duty,loss of income would be a concern.not compensation just what you were earning??

freddiew wrote: »

Gents, no one has answered my question, hope you are not all like that in Court!! My question was, "I was wondering if anyone knows on P1 do they take into account a 50 year old against a 25 year old's fitness or has everyone to be equal fitness. Has anyone failed on P1?"

You bet me to posting there

. Hope my answer helps ?

freddiew wrote: »

I was wondering if anyone knows on P1 do they take into account a 50 year old against a 25 year old's fitness or has everyone to be equal fitness. Has anyone failed on P1?

Everyone in my group where of even age. I don't think it would matter too much as everyone will be in the same boat of uneven fittness. Its not that strenous in P1, but you will be rolling on the floor a few times. To my knowledge no one has failed in P1, theres not really any way to fail. You can fail P2 and possibly P3, but your given the opportunity to repeat anything you failed on. I get the impression they don't want anyone to fail and will either guide you through it or give you every opportunity to pass.

Gents, no one has answered my question, hope you are not all like that in Court!! My question was, "I was wondering if anyone knows on P1 do they take into account a 50 year old against a 25 year old's fitness or has everyone to be equal fitness. Has anyone failed on P1?"

Murphy(Cork) wrote: »

If you fon't mind me asking, whats the general age of people applying or in the garda reserve?

If it's any consolation there is a guy 57 in our group.

leinsterdude

Hi,Im 32.

If you fon't mind me asking, whats the general age of people applying or in the garda reserve?

I was wondering if anyone knows on P1 do they take into account a 50 year old against a 25 year old's fitness or has everyone to be equal fitness. Has anyone failed on P1?

pat1187

sorry folks,
You are asked, when you complete your medical, to go and get three hepatitis B shots staggered over 6 months. Headquarters state they will cover the costs but I sent in my chit for payment in May and as you can see they are not too quick about it. Got it last week.

leinsterdude wrote: »

Gee Sean dont drink 8 pints the night before,I would hope most dont,are u spaeking from experience?

I don't think he is, but a few of the lads in our group did. They watched the rugby and then went to the night club afterwards. To say they were a bit white and sick the next day is an understatement

leinsterdude

Gee Sean dont drink 8 pints the night before,I would hope most dont,are u spaeking from experience?

also I was wondering is there a plan in place for reserves incase they get assaulted whilst on duty or injured to insure them,what if a reserve was injured and could not work for a while?? Would the Garda match the money they would usually get paid???:eek:

AN SEANDUINE

Another piece of advice for anyone starting phase one is not to drink any more than 8 pints on the saturday night as there is a bit of physical activity on the sunday morning.

iandromiskin wrote: »

We've just started P2 a short while ago. Have until the end of November till P3.

If I had one piece of advice for you starting P1, it would be to take the Monday after the weekend off, as you will probably be suffering from aches and pains from using muscles you never knew you had.

If what they so is true about phase 1 starting on the 3rd of November. The Monday will be my birthday. Should be a painful 1 so

We've just started P2 a short while ago. Have until the end of November till P3.

If I had one piece of advice for you starting P1, it would be to take the Monday after the weekend off, as you will probably be suffering from aches and pains from using muscles you never knew you had.

So how long is each Phase??

Thanks Geo I expect it is all part of a long learning curve.As you said in a previous posting it is all about listening ,observing and not been afraid to ask the seemingly stupid question when needs be.
Finally I would just like to take this oppurtunity to wish all my classmates warm wishes for Saturday when we finally pass out as full time Reservists.It has been a long road but well worth it.Now the real work begins.

geo1212

baton charge wrote: »

Hi Geo,
When you say write everything down do you mean in a personal diary like the college trainees do or in the official Garda notebook? what goes into the official notebook anyway do you find you are duplicating what the full time Garda enters into his even if you are only assisting. I think this is a very grey area what do you think??? I believe only one Reserve has affected an arrest since it's inceptionis does this still hold true.Have you also heard anything about an increase in powers for Reserves or is anybody bothered either way.

In the beginning write down everything you think is important in your notebook (official). It does not matter if its duplicated, if anything its a second witness as to what has occured. Check with the member you are with, as you gain more experience you it will become a little clearer for you. In regards to arrests/powers, check with your SHO, as its not something I would discuss on line.

geo1212 wrote: »

yea baton,

it will get a little easier when you are attached to a unit, I am attached to a Dublin station, and it has settled in fairly well, even as far as being able to join in with some of the social gigs.
The biggest lesson, is to watch, listen and learn. The regular's who have maybe ten years service develop a skill of spotting something that just does not look or seem right, and when you think you are watching everything they suddenly come up with "did you see that", and we are "eh what", thats something that you cannot put into a text book.
These are the lads and girls who you can learn off.
If its of any use, at the start write everything down, and after a while you will get to know whats important and whats not.

Hi Geo,
When you say write everything down do you mean in a personal diary like the college trainees do or in the official Garda notebook? what goes into the official notebook anyway do you find you are duplicating what the full time Garda enters into his even if you are only assisting. I think this is a very grey area what do you think??? I believe only one Reserve has affected an arrest since it's inceptionis does this still hold true.Have you also heard anything about an increase in powers for Reserves or is anybody bothered either way.

geo1212

baton charge wrote:

Pat and I did our training together but unlike Pat the Waterford reserves were assigned to their respective units fairly quickly.I can tell you it does make a difference because it helps you bed in faster. After attestation it should all settle down as you will get to do more regular hours than dribs and drabs during Phase 4.

yea baton,

it will get a little easier when you are attached to a unit, I am attached to a Dublin station, and it has settled in fairly well, even as far as being able to join in with some of the social gigs.
The biggest lesson, is to watch, listen and learn. The regular's who have maybe ten years service develop a skill of spotting something that just does not look or seem right, and when you think you are watching everything they suddenly come up with "did you see that", and we are "eh what", thats something that you cannot put into a text book.
These are the lads and girls who you can learn off.
If its of any use, at the start write everything down, and after a while you will get to know whats important and whats not.

Murphy(Cork) wrote:

How long is Phase 2????

Its stated that P2 is 56 hours of legal studies on weekdays and weekends. My group have just started P2 studies and we have to complete it by the end of November.

How long is Phase 2????