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Rip off home prices in crime ridden areas

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anyone think it's interesting that the shooting of Paul Sherlock occurred in stones throw of brand new (expensive) apartment development by Crosbie Holdings where the units are mad expensive? i mean this is an area where robbed cars are dumped on a regular basis. would you like to leave your gaffe and even hear a gun shot after paying over the hilt for the place? I mean look at the new property on sale in the Finglas area. cheaper than in Terenure for sure, but still over the margin for people on an average income in an area where gang crime is rampant. maybe if the prices came down more due to crime developers would add pressure to their Government buddies for more gardai and resources to get rid of scum. - just a thought!

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Orange69

MySelf56 wrote:

Hmmm... its not actually Metaphor apparently dubland prices almost equivalent to Beverly Hills, its on the radio other day. Just only difference between Beverly Hills you don’t find any woman wearing track suits in Tesco’s.

(Probably German ambassador is right, he is not joking)

If thats true then lol at the people buying houses in Dublin... it also shows just how shafted people here are allowing themselves to be got*

I personally would not touch Irish property with a barge pole attached to another barge pole... There is no way a box apartment in worth 300k+... I dont care where it is... When i lived in Canada you could buy such beautiful houses with gardens, garage and all for about the same money...

*I think i just invented some new grammar there...

MySelf56

What's the equivalent for the show Beverly Hills 90210 though?

Yes there is Fair(d) City.

I personally would not touch Irish property with a barge pole attached to another barge pole... There is no way a box apartment in worth 300k+... I dont care where it is... When i lived in Canada you could buy such beautiful houses with gardens, garage and all for about the same money...

Forget buying if you want rent it self you have to mint the money, haven’t heard basement studio with sink and microwave will cost you 700 yoyo in Dubland. (Few days back lads posted link from Daft actually!!). That’s what Mr David (Ginger) McWillams whinging, would you just buying and selling houses each other be innovative (like Ryan Air) invest your money ideas in enterprise development, no economy in the world cant sustain development purely based property(unless it is dismanting spanish fishing villages and polluting 5000 sq miles of mediterian sea board). But unfortunately celtic tiger cubs are offended because of his hair colour. What can you do?

On a serious note:
I think generalisation of Crime ridden areas is not good idea. Finest example there is shooting Coolock (lovely ladies with track bottoms who replaces “D” for “R” in general English) relatively less house prices compared to Stillorgan(areas completely infested with 4x4 driven yummy mummys who goes to Dundrum shopping centre for cuppa) few months back both places experienced gun shot victims. So can we say Stillorgan is ****e hole(Ross Carroll Kelly will kick the **** out of me), absolutely not same for Coolock! (at least in UCI cinemas woman behind me doesnt bother his bf while movie running unlike poshy dundrum movie where she is talking to ginger man while movie running!)

We long back put our heads in sand, drugs are abused in both areas just poshy areas call them as “Weekend Recreational” (bit posy wording hey!). You would be daft generalising one particular area now a day. There is no such week in the news customs finding drugs here n there. Where there are drugs there is problem simple plain mathematics. I don’t think its do with community centres,swimming pools, un employment, blah blah (correct me if I am wrong)

Terry

What?

projectmayhem

Terry wrote:

What?

wasn't just me then, no?

looks like that post went through google translator a few times

Zulu

Terry +1

MySelf56

When did i learned foreign language with out my knowledge or do i have to post it in Text Lingustica to make Terry-- ?

hopalong85

MySelf56 wrote:

When did i learned foreign language with out my knowledge or do i have to post it in Text Lingustica to make Terry-- ?

what?

MySelf56

Ok i give up!

I will learn my texting lingustic skills to make myself clear in my coming posts!

ntlbell

MySelf56 wrote:

Ok i give up!

I will learn my texting lingustic skills to make myself clear in my coming posts!

Can't wait.

John Mason

Ruen wrote:

Well you'd be wrong Gopher the epidemic is spread across the board, people from anywhere can get Cocaine easily. With the prevalence of Cocaine now the drug problem in Ireland is no longer confined to certain urban areas, it's everywhere and if anyone says that people in Foxrock or any like area arent affected by it they're either lying or just stupid.

jaysis, i live in finglas and i cant my hands on a bit of soap never mind anything else, where are all these drug dealing people?

ntlbell

irishbird wrote:

jaysis, i live in finglas and i cant my hands on a bit of soap never mind anything else, where are all these drug dealing people?

It seems it's far easier to get coke these days than a bit smoke.

But there is a fair bit of soap around you just need to look slightly harder...

like dublin 7 :P

/back on topic

Degsy

MySelf56 wrote:

Ok i give up!

I will learn my texting lingustic skills to make myself clear in my coming posts!

Thats very magnanamous of you.You're not a robot perchance?

Ruen

irishbird wrote:

jaysis, i live in finglas and i cant my hands on a bit of soap never mind anything else, where are all these drug dealing people?

Everywhere

AARRRGH

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but this is relevant.

In the Sunday Business Post today they have the crime statistics -

The Finglas area has the second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland. (The Coolock area is #1.)

The Blackrock area, which the Finglas heads seemed to think was somehow more crime ridden than Finglas, has less murder than areas like Kerry, Cork and Clare. That's THIRTEEN TIMES LOWER than Finglas.

gurramok

dublindude wrote: »

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but this is relevant.

In the Sunday Business Post today they have the crime statistics -

The Finglas area has the second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland. (The Coolock area is #1.)

The Blackrock area, which the Finglas heads seemed to think was somehow more crime ridden than Finglas, has less murder than areas like Kerry, Cork and Clare. That's THIRTEEN TIMES LOWER than Finglas.

You've obviously read Wrong, have another read before being mistaken twice..http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=NEWS+FEATURES-qqqm=nav-qqqid=27759-qqqx=1.asp

SBP wrote:

A breakdown of the figures by each of the country’s 25 Garda divisions shows that more than a quarter of all murders in the state occur in just two divisions - the DMR Northern Division, which covers areas such as Coolock and Swords, and the adjoining DMR Western Division, which covers the area around Finglas and Blanchardstown.

The DMR Northern Division was the scene of 14.7 per cent of all homicides in the state, while the DMR Western Division - where Daly was murdered last weekend - dealt with 12.6 per cent of the nation’s murders.

Those stats are not based on either Coolock or Finglas areas.

They are based on each Garda division, the likes of Coolock includes Clontarf and all the way up to Swords, basically Dub NE, fyi

Same can be said for so called stats for Finglas, they include Blanch/Castlenock and adjoining areas.

AARRRGH

gurramok wrote: »

You've obviously read Wrong, have another read before being mistaken twice..

I suggest you take your own advice.

dublindude wrote:

The Finglas area has the second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland.

The Sunday Business Post wrote:

the area around Finglas and Blanchardstown...dealt with 12.6 per cent of the nation’s murders

The Sunday Business Post wrote:

areas such as Coolock and Swords...was the scene of 14.7 per cent of all homicides in the state

gurramok wrote:

Those stats are not based on either Coolock or Finglas areas.

gurramok

dublindude wrote: »

I suggest you take your own advice.

How can you be confused again?

Have a 3rd read of the article if you may.

DMR West Garda division includes Finglas, Blanch, Castlenock, Glasnevin, Lucan, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot etc.

DMR Northern division includes Coolock, Sutton, Kilbarrack, Raheny, Donaghmede, Swords, Santry etc.

You had stated Finglas has the 'second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland.', which is clearly false.

You should of said that the DMR Western Garda division has the 'second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland.'

You had stated that Coolock was No.1 for murders in Ireland which is clearly false.
You should have stated that DMR Northern Garda division has the ' highest amount of murders in the state' or No.1 in your lingo.

Understand now?

EDIT: link here for divisions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Metropolitan_Area for your perusal

AARRRGH

I suggest you relax on the angry tone because it is you who is confused. Also please read my posts, you are not reading them.

gurramok wrote:

You had stated Finglas has the 'second highest amount of murders in the state - 12.6% of all murders in Ireland.', which is clearly false.

No I didn't. I said the Finglas AREA.

gurramok wrote:

You had stated that Coolock was No.1 for murders in Ireland which is clearly false.

No I didn't. I said the Coolock AREA.

I understand you are trying to imply the murders are spread out in places like Sutton and Castleknock, but I think anyone with a brain can tell you, and The Sunday Business Post clearly pointed this out, that it is areas like Finglas which is where the murders are happening. The murders aren't happening in places like Sutton and Castleknock.

gurramok

dublindude wrote: »

dublindude wrote: »

I suggest you relax on the angry tone because it is you who is confused. Also please read my posts, you are not reading them.

Angry tone?..LOL..Its a pity you hadn't backed up your statement with facts, i have.

Yes i am, very clearly reading your posts, thank you.

dublindude wrote:

No I didn't. I said the Finglas AREA.

Oh, your tying to get off the hook now...Finglas AREA is Finglas area in the English language, not the DMR West region.

dublindude wrote:

No I didn't. I said the Coolock AREA.

Coolock AREA is Coolock area in the English language, not the DMR Northern region.

dublindude wrote:

I understand you are trying to imply the murders are spread out in places like Sutton and Castleknock, but I think anyone with a brain can tell you, and The Sunday Business Post clearly pointed this out, that it is areas like Finglas which is where the murders are happening. The murders aren't happening in places like Sutton and Castleknock.

I stated what the DMR regions consisted of, you had stated and clearly said that Finglas has had the 2nd highest murder rate in the country and it does NOT.

Lets look at whats happened in Finglas itself for facts. (Note: not DMR West region)

Finglas has had 3 high-profile all gangland type murders in '07 and 3 in '06* and from that you had said that it has now the 2nd highest murder rate in the country with about 60+ murders a year nationally?

Can you see what you had mistakenly said?

*i've actually looked this part up, 3 murders in July, Sept & Oct '07, 3 all in Sept '06

AARRRGH

I'll simplify.

Would you accept Finglas has dramatically more murders than nearly every other suburb and town in Ireland?

gurramok

dublindude wrote: »

I'll simplify.

Would you accept Finglas has dramatically more murders than nearly every other suburb and town in Ireland?

Good to hear you accept that Finglas is not solely the Garda DMR West region which has 12.6% of all murders in Ireland.

No, there are other 'areas' as you call them that can claim equal if worse status of murder rates.

3 murdered a year is very low considering the size of the suburb, and considering every single one of them were gangland killings.

Shall we have to trawl through all the locations of the 48 murders so far this year to prove its not the worse area?:D

RuggieBear

gurramok wrote: »

Shall we have to trawl through all the locations of the 48 murders so far this year to prove its not the worse area?:D

I'd be quite interested in that...

/eggs on pissing contest.:D

AARRRGH

gurramok wrote: »

Shall we have to trawl through all the locations of the 48 murders so far this year to prove its not the worse area?:D

Go for it

Note this thread was mostly about how Finglas is a nicer area (or just as nice) than places like Blackrock and Terenure.

That's obviously bollox, hence my post above.

I would classify Finglas as a crime ridden area; one of the worst in Ireland.

An Citeog

dublindude wrote: »

No I didn't. I said the Finglas AREA.

No I didn't. I said the Coolock AREA.

I understand you are trying to imply the murders are spread out in places like Sutton and Castleknock, but I think anyone with a brain can tell you, and The Sunday Business Post clearly pointed this out, that it is areas like Finglas which is where the murders are happening. The murders aren't happening in places like Sutton and Castleknock.

I agree with gurramok here. Calling the western DMR the Finglas area is incorrect. The Finglas area doesn't include places like Castleknock and seeing as Sutton is on the eastern coastline, I think you may be slightly confused. The western DMR does, however, include Blanchardstown which also has quite a few murders.

The northern DMR doesn't refer to the Coolock area. Swords and north county Dublin cartainly aren't part of the Coolock area.

Would you refer to Terenure as the Crumlin area?

AARRRGH

An Citeog wrote: »

I agree with gurramok here. Calling the western DMR the Finglas area is incorrect. The Finglas area doesn't include places like Castleknock and seeing as Sutton is on the eastern coastline, I think you may be slightly confused. The western DMR does, however, include Blanchardstown which also has quite a few murders.

The northern DMR doesn't refer to the Coolock area. Swords and north county Dublin cartainly aren't part of the Coolock area.

Would you refer to Terenure as the Crumlin area?

I was quoting the Sunday Business Post. They may have their facts wrong.

gurramok

I've researched RTE news website especially for dublindude

foxy06

gurramok wrote: »

I've researched RTE news website especially for dublindude

I somehow came up with 48 exact matches for this year which is also the official figure, maybe just fluky on my part.:)

Now.. 4 murders in Tipp total, 3 in Finglas, 3 in Clontarf, 3 in Clondalkin, 3 in Clonmel alone, 3 in Limerick, 3 in Cork, 3 in Meath etc.

By dublindudes logic, Clontarf ranks along Finglas as the worst crime ridden area and Tipp is the worst ever, agree now?:D

So, according to the list below, don't buy any houses in those places as they are all crime ridden according to dublindudes logic...LOL

Surprised at Tipp, what is going on down there?:eek:

RIP to all the victims, sad and shocking.

Monaghan http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1022/news1pm.html
Finglas http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1022/news1pm.html
West Cork http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1016/bullg.html
Clonmel http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1017/manganj.html
Galway http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1010/riedom.html
Limerick http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1009/limerick.html
Dublin south inner city http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1009/jenkinsa.html
Walkinstown(2) http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1006/dublin.html
Clontarf http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0929/dublin.html
Finglas http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0924/duffyd.html
Longford http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0921/coughlans.html
Clonmel http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0917/cambridgek.html
Duleek, Louth http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0913/fernandesc.html
Limerick http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0904/colemanp.html
Westmeath http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0831/westmeath.html
Castlenock http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0830/gilbertj.html
Cork http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0826/mckeeb.html
Roscommon http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0824/cunninghamt.html
Laois http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0821/burkep.html
Sligo http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0814/sligo.html
Clontarf http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0809/clontarf.html
Dunboyne, Meath http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0804/meath.html
Finglas http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0718/finglas.html
Wicklow(2) http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0717/sleator.html
Bettystown,Meath http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0716/drogheda.html
Nenagh http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0719/tipperary.html
Dublin north inner city http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0711/byrnea.html
Mountjoy http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0628/glennond.html
Dublin south inner city http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0616/dublin.html
Blanch, Dublin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0612/tobini.html
Swords, Dublin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0604/swords.html
Donnybrook http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0526/stab.htm
Cork http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0522/body.html
Limerick http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0426/limerick.html
Killarney, Kerry http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0421/brazierj.html
Thurles, Tipperary http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0419/thurles.html
Clonakility, Cork http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0418/pattersonr.html
Clare http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0416/odwyerm.html
Clontarf http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0408/shooting.html
Mornington, Meath http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0323/meath.html
Clondalkin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0315/ohanlonr.html
Roscrea, Tipperary http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0312/tipperary.html
Clonmel, tipperary http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0222/molloyd.html
Raheny, Dublin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0212/raheny.html
Clondalkin, Dublin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0203/dublin.html
Clondalkin http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0124/clondalkin.html
Tallaght http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0119/tallaght.html
Cork http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0106/sulaymanova.html

You really go out of your way to make a point!

An Citeog

dublindude wrote: »

I was quoting the Sunday Business Post. They may have their facts wrong.

No, you quoted particular sentences in the article to try and back up your own views. Here's what it really says,

Sunday Business Post wrote:

A breakdown of the figures by each of the country’s 25 Garda divisions shows that more than a quarter of all murders in the state occur in just two divisions - the DMR Northern Division, which covers areas such as Coolock and Swords, and the adjoining DMR Western Division, which covers the area around Finglas and Blanchardstown.

The DMR Northern Division was the scene of 14.7 per cent of all homicides in the state, while the DMR Western Division - where Daly was murdered last weekend - dealt with 12.6 per cent of the nation’s murders.

Fair play guarramok. Nice bit of research you did there!

snickerpuss

I have to say that a lot of shootings get reported as happening in Coolock when they in fact happen in other areas. One in the Irish Times last week had 'The Shooting happened in Dublin 13, Coolock'. D13 is Donaghmede.
The fact that all the surrounding areas come under Coolock Garda Stations jurisdiction is probably how its happening. It annoys me as we already have enough shootings of our own with more being attributed to us.
We certainly haven't got the most, it's the DMR division we're in.

Orange69

snickerpuss wrote: »

It annoys me as we already have enough shootings of our own with more being attributed to us.
We certainly haven't got the most, it's the DMR division we're in.

Its not like you are personally being blamed for these shootings?