Naked Lepper wrote: Actually I want to change my last comment, instead of 25 years I think all drug users whether theyre moderate social drug users or heroin addicts on the street,should be given lethal injection after serving a 10 year sentence in mountjoy. thatll learn them for sure.
megadodge wrote: Don't go near the stuff and from what I've seen the majority would probably have tried it but only a small minority are regular users. I'm neither a farmer nor uni graduate.
DarkJager wrote: I think you're just seriously ill informed, with grossly misguided opinions. Lethal injections for moderate social drug users? You sound as if YOU are the one that needs to be locked away for 10 years...preferrably in a mental hospital.
Slow coach wrote: I never tried anything harder than a ciggie, and apart from my sister, You tried your sister??? thats sick man..
You tried your sister??? thats sick man..
Steyr wrote: Never smoked and never touched Drugs of any type,:D i just would not lower myself to that level.
CiaranC wrote: lol, never touched drugs of any type, good one.
Steyr wrote: Im serious.
Gyalist wrote: I am not Irish but I have lived here for 20+ years and I'm always being asked if I have anything. It really pisses me off!!
DarkJager wrote: Final Note: People who say there should be mandatory sentences of 25 years for anyone who touches drugs should be locked away themselves. Its idiotic moral high ground thinking at its worst.
Beeswax, turpentine, milk powder, ketamine, boot polish, henna, pine resin, aspirin, animal turds, ground coffee, barbiturates, glues and dyes plus carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene This is what happens under prohibition. If your pint down the pub contained any of these nasty things wouldn't you complain? Of course you would, well now its time to complain about polluted cannabis supplies. DON'T SMOKE SOAP DON'T BUY SOAP DON'T SELL SOAP The government is well aware of this situation and seems happy to expose the millions of cannabis users to dangers which simple quality controls could eliminate, but of course, that means accepting they're wrong and legalising cannabis.
Overheal wrote: However, cannabis has as of yet not killed anyone through direct use, unlike alcohol, paracetomol, heroin, etc. which can seriously damage your liver, and result in death within hours.
1der wrote: You tried your sister??? thats sick man..
1der wrote: For the sake of this thread maintaning any valuable points just don't even bother replying to comments like that. It will only bring all arguments back to 1982! I think its safe to say that the following statements can be regarded as FACT so far as any argument goes: 1. Alcohol is a much worse drug than cannabis 2. Cannabis is a bit dodgy at the moment due to the fact that it is illegal and it is criminals who control the flow of it. 3. There is no issue with the strength of cannibas in regard to it's legality, but concerns about users going on to harder drugs is maybe a concern. (i.e. would cocain replace weed as the 'soft' drug)
Maybe you have the look of a drug dealer about you! :P
Clarehobo wrote: In reply to those comments above by OP: 1. Please present information on why alcohol is worse than cannabis: Cannabis induces psychosis in certain people. Alcohol does same. Both can cause dependency in users. How do you determine which is worse than the other? Have you carried out, or can you quote, any sort of medical or social impact study for both type of drugs? You cannot say something is FACT unless you present facts...
Ciaran500 wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/23/nalcohol123.xml
Clarehobo wrote: In reply to original question : tried it, does nothing for me & none of my circle of friends smoke either - so there are lots of people that don't smoke cannabis. In reply to those comments above by OP: 1. Please present information on why alcohol is worse than cannabis: Cannabis induces psychosis in certain people. Alcohol does same. Both can cause dependency in users. How do you determine which is worse than the other? Have you carried out, or can you quote, any sort of medical or social impact study for both type of drugs? You cannot say something is FACT unless you present facts... 2. It is 'dodgy' not only because as you pointed out it is controlled by criminals, but also because of it's side-effects & it's anti-social effects on communities. 3. This is now the main concern in the UK where they are considering revoking the de-criminalisation of possession of cannabis for personal use If you are going to make sweeping statements and are implying they are fact, please present the facts to back them up, otherwise present them as your opinion - there is a big difference
Ciaran500 wrote: lol Is gravity not fact then?
Clarehobo wrote: Thanks for that Ciaran500 I am actually well aware of that study. If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be? Also, just to clarify, I'm not a person who thinks 'drugs are bad, mmmkay' : My point was that there were no actual facts presented by 1der eventhough he/she stated that they were facts
1der wrote: Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis???
1der wrote: well then, are you jus basically someone who likes to sound intelligent because that's not very relevant to the initial purpose of the thread anyway. To be honest I only said that so that people would not be making stupid little petty points like this one. One good question brought up in this discussion though is: Do you think that cannibas should be legal soley based on the fact that it is (probably) not as bad a drug as alcohol? Or maybe the question should be on the legality of alcohol.....